Sorry, apoligies first for this thread, but i would like to look like Pitt in Fight Club. Other than having to have a low body fat, what would you say he benched in preparation for the film? I only really ever want to lift about 200lbs so would that be enough with low enough body fat? I'll probably do about 1hr 30 of cardio a week along with Circuit training?
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09-02-2008, 03:17 AM #1
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Oh no...another Brad Pitt (Fight Club) thread...
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09-02-2008, 03:29 AM #2
According to this web page this is what he did for the movie
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09-02-2008, 03:49 AM #3
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09-02-2008, 06:04 AM #4
As a rough guideline, judging by the look of him, his muscle tone, density etc, i would expect a 160lb guy who looked like that to Bench about 240-260. He'd probably be able to do advanced core work like flags and ab wheel roll outs and dead lift about 350. What Pitt actually lifted of course is another matter, but for the average guy to look like that, which is what matters, thats what id expect It'd take.
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09-02-2008, 06:10 AM #5
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09-02-2008, 06:21 AM #6
it might be if you had great natural genetics in the looks department. Maybe he benched 85lb I really don't know. But for the average guy of that weight to have that kind of muscle tone, thickness through the neck and shoulders, balance, posture etc, those are the weights I would guess at for most people. Or put another way I'd expect most people would need at least a 1.5x bw bench and at least a 2x bw deadlift and an extremely strong core capable of doing flags & ab wheel roll outs etc and a body fat of around 5%. So if I were you I'd set those achievements as your goal, and if you look like BP before you get there, great.
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09-02-2008, 06:24 AM #7
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09-02-2008, 06:45 AM #9
You don't know many people who look like Brad Pitt either. The size of the arms doesn't do as much for an impressive physique as people think. NECK size gives an impressive physique. Pitt might have only had 14' arms but he must have had a 17' neck and that is what made him look impressive, along with the low BF. The neck is heavily involved in benching, especially DB benching, Im guessing most people with a 17' neck can bench 240. Certainly the average guy who benches 180 DOESNT have a 17' neck and looks nowhere near as impressive as Pitt in that film, regardless of BF%.
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09-02-2008, 08:20 AM #13
uh huh. speechless at what exactly? I'd honestly like to know what you disagree with in that. You really think arm size is a better predictor of strength than neck size? You really think arm size is a bigger factor in being physically imposing and balanced and just generally impressive looking than neck size? You don't think neck size is a better predictor of benching ability than arm size? you don't think the neck is involved in benching, especially DB benching?
Those are the only points I made in that post and I'd love to see what exactly you disagree with there.
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09-02-2008, 09:16 AM #14
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09-02-2008, 10:03 AM #17
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I've got around 14" arms and got up 250 the other day x1.(No e-stats)(no I don't have proof). I think that with proper form and good strength, a smaller guy like me can lift some good weight.
Was Brad Pitt, at the time of Fight Club, really only 160 pounds? What is his usual weight?Last edited by Steven08; 09-02-2008 at 10:05 AM.
Bench-255x2
Squat-290x5
Deads-310x3
Goals:
Bench-300
Squat-350
Deads-400
175-180lbs, 8% BF
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09-02-2008, 10:12 AM #18
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09-02-2008, 10:37 AM #19
I don't see how you can relate specific muscle strength to determining a specific size. Some people are stronger than others and some are weaker but way better built. We are "bodybuilding" not "powerlifting". Yes strength plays a role in bodybuilding but its not as easy as you make it out to determine someones size.
For example I'm not a very strong guy.....and my arms are 16 inches when pumped. 15.5 cold.
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09-02-2008, 10:48 AM #20
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09-02-2008, 11:15 AM #21
Totally right, you can't judge strength by size at all. But you can get a good idea from the combination of strength, proportion & muscle tone. There's at least a useful correlation between those things and strength. The guy was asking for a guideline to give him something to aim for, to guide his training towards his goal I think it's a reasonable request.
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09-02-2008, 11:17 AM #22
X2. For all we know Pitt just did lots of weighted chair pushups with no rest between sets. Pitt was born with a good lean built and 6 feet so It doesn't take a lot of work to build on that. He is gentically gifted . It really is impossible to tell how much someone can lift compared to their size in the bodybuilding world.
Larry Scott was 200lbs with 18 or 19 inch arms with a 48inch chest at one of his early competitions and the heaviest he said he worked with was under 200ish if I recall on the bench press. He got really stronger later on with everyone and was able to do 300lb max rep for a neck press, not sure how much the dianabol helped with that. But scott's body size changed drastically with minimally weight pushed early on in the beginning of his career. I know he was doing a lot of gironda type rest periods though early on , so maybe that is why he didn't lift a lot of weight.
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09-02-2008, 11:19 AM #23
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09-02-2008, 12:26 PM #30
It's kinda hilarious that most bodybuilders are unable to conciously identify any other indicators of strength other than big beach muscles. Anyway, in future I encourage you to observe that you've probably never met a strong man with a pencil neck, but you've met many with skinny arms. You've probably also known & seen many bodybuilders with big arms who weren't very strong and most often they had disproportionately small necks. Observe it in yourself that you can put on muscle without much strength and your collar size doesn't go up yet you can put strength on without much overall mass and put 1/2' on your collar.
Whether he was or not, Pitt LOOKED strong in that film (which is why so many people wanna look like him), both in terms of muscle tone and his general proportions including neck size and the best way for a presumably average guy like harry to achieve a similar look is gonna be to get very strong for his size and then get very, very lean. End of story.
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