New to working out need help understanding..

[flexxdzl]

I'm am a 36 year old male 5'10 240 ..I have been working out off and on very sparingly( lol) through out. I have been working out for 2-3 weeks..I was using this liquid creatine and ran out .So I went to this new supplement store ..looking for the closet thing to steroids that isn't. A natural Type thing.

The guy behind the counter showed me hemobolin 250 and hemogen b52 ( i think). he said I would gain at least 8 to 10 lbs of muscle in 30 days..and that exactly what I needed.

So I come on this site and start to research ..and have been left confused. I have the hemobolin 250 but it is un opened..and i might return it it after reading the things i have read...I need to ask question for clarity..this is not my field and I am lost..so who ever answers take in consideration your knowledge and understanding is greater than mine and I would loike the laymen terms if possible..thank you.


1. Are both of these a real steroid? Or just a natural booster?

a. I thought steroids were against the law..how could the be sold over the counter?

2. Serm PCT ..liver support ...???? Will this ( hemobolin and hemogen) destroy my liver and give me woman"s breast? ..

3. Are there natural """" (.........whatever"s testosterone boosters) that I could take and that would give me 8 to 10 pounds of muscle in 30 days..is so which ones.

4. Could someone post the perfect diet for building muscle mass ..I will follow to the tee..I need it spelled out..I truly don't know how to put it all together.

I'm like one of the other guys that posted ..I just wanted to do it once get the initial effect ) muscle ) and then just continue regular ..it's just what I need so I can continue and not get frustrated with not seeing nothing forever
Maybe it ages or laziness ..whatever this is the route that is best for me ..Build mass fast then jst doing the rest normail ..or regular ..


What should I do .? The best way to gain 8 to 10 lbs of muscle mass in 30 day without using a steroid..???


Thank you

[SP1966]

The guy behind the counter showed me hemobolin 250 and hemogen b52 ( i think). he said I would gain at least 8 to 10 lbs of muscle in 30 days..and that exactly what I needed.

'If something seems to good to be true... ' is the first thing that comes to mind!

[ntrllftr]

The guy behind the counter showed me hemobolin 250 and hemogen b52 ( i think). he said I would gain at least 8 to 10 lbs of muscle in 30 days..and that exactly what I needed.

I got a bridge to sell you. Just sayin...

So I come on this site and start to research ..and have been left confused. I have the hemobolin 250 but it is un opened..and i might return it it after reading the things i have read...I need to ask question for clarity..this is not my field and I am lost..so who ever answers take in consideration your knowledge and understanding is greater than mine and I would loike the laymen terms if possible..thank you.

Thats just it. You need to do research before you put something into the body. Especially things you don't undersatand

a. I thought steroids were against the law..how could the be sold over the counter?

You just answered your own question.

2. Serm PCT ..liver support ...???? Will this ( hemobolin and hemogen) destroy my liver and give me woman"s breast? ..



3. Are there natural """" (.........whatever"s testosterone boosters) that I could take and that would give me 8 to 10 pounds of muscle in 30 days..is so which ones.

NO, 5 punds in a year naturally is even hard to do


4. Could someone post the perfect diet for building muscle mass ..I will follow to the tee..I need it spelled out..I truly don't know how to put it all together.

can't do it without knowing more information, sorry

I'm like one of the other guys that posted ..I just wanted to do it once get the initial effect ) muscle ) and then just continue regular ..it's just what I need so I can continue and not get frustrated with not seeing nothing forever
Maybe it ages or laziness ..whatever this is the route that is best for me ..Build mass fast then jst doing the rest normail ..or regular ..

hmmm NO point in even starting if you ask me.

What should I do .? The best way to gain 8 to 10 lbs of muscle mass in 30 day without using a steroid..???

Not gonna happen, sorry again.


Thank you

Answers in red. Just being honest.

Good luck!!!


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[gbg]

Carl you crack me up!!!! LOL!! ^^^^^^^^

[Fifty+]

I'm am a 36 year old male 5'10 240 ..I have been working out off and on very sparingly( lol) through out. I have been working out for 2-3 weeks..I was using this liquid creatine and ran out .So I went to this new supplement store ..looking for the closet thing to steroids that isn't. A natural Type thing.

The guy behind the counter showed me hemobolin 250 and hemogen b52 ( i think). he said I would gain at least 8 to 10 lbs of muscle in 30 days..and that exactly what I needed.

So I come on this site and start to research ..and have been left confused. I have the hemobolin 250 but it is un opened..and i might return it it after reading the things i have read...I need to ask question for clarity..this is not my field and I am lost..so who ever answers take in consideration your knowledge and understanding is greater than mine and I would loike the laymen terms if possible..thank you.


1. Are both of these a real steroid? Or just a natural booster?

a. I thought steroids were against the law..how could the be sold over the counter?

2. Serm PCT ..liver support ...???? Will this ( hemobolin and hemogen) destroy my liver and give me woman"s breast? ..

3. Are there natural """" (.........whatever"s testosterone boosters) that I could take and that would give me 8 to 10 pounds of muscle in 30 days..is so which ones.

4. Could someone post the perfect diet for building muscle mass ..I will follow to the tee..I need it spelled out..I truly don't know how to put it all together.

I'm like one of the other guys that posted ..I just wanted to do it once get the initial effect ) muscle ) and then just continue regular ..it's just what I need so I can continue and not get frustrated with not seeing nothing forever
Maybe it ages or laziness ..whatever this is the route that is best for me ..Build mass fast then jst doing the rest normail ..or regular ..


What should I do .? The best way to gain 8 to 10 lbs of muscle mass in 30 day without using a steroid..???


Thank you

There is nothing perfect or easy or quick about adding muscle to your body. If you were to go back through the archives of the 35 and over forum you will notice that we have made life style changes regarding exercise and eating habits. In other words, it's for life. If it was as easy as purchasing supplements and lifting weights for a month, everyone would be extremely muscular with low body fat. Not going to happen. Look to the extreme. Look at the professional bodybuilders who do use steroids. I think Dorian Yates at 8 years, was the fastest rising pro ever..it usually takes 10-12 years before the pros look like they do. That has to tell you something. So you can stick around and learn how to properly lift weights, develop a healthy diet and share information and experiences, or you can dream about it. The hard work is good for you and the discipline required to make it happen spills over to your life outside the gym. It's a wonderful life style. It isn't easy, but neither is growing old. You choose.
oldfart

[uncleroman]

There is nothing perfect or easy or quick about adding muscle to your body. If you were to go back through the archives of the 35 and over forum you will notice that we have made life style changes regarding exercise and eating habits. In other words, it's for life. If it was as easy as purchasing supplements and lifting weights for a month, everyone would be extremely muscular with low body fat. Not going to happen. Look to the extreme. Look at the professional bodybuilders who do use steroids. I think Dorian Yates at 8 years, was the fastest rising pro ever..it usually takes 10-12 years before the pros look like they do. That has to tell you something. So you can stick around and learn how to properly lift weights, develop a healthy diet and share information and experiences, or you can dream about it. The hard work is good for you and the discipline required to make it happen spills over to your life outside the gym. It's a wonderful life style. It isn't easy, but neither is growing old. You choose.
oldfart

what he said^^ repped

[JC480]

There is nothing perfect or easy or quick about adding muscle to your body. If you were to go back through the archives of the 35 and over forum you will notice that we have made life style changes regarding exercise and eating habits. In other words, it's for life. If it was as easy as purchasing supplements and lifting weights for a month, everyone would be extremely muscular with low body fat. Not going to happen. Look to the extreme. Look at the professional bodybuilders who do use steroids. I think Dorian Yates at 8 years, was the fastest rising pro ever..it usually takes 10-12 years before the pros look like they do. That has to tell you something. So you can stick around and learn how to properly lift weights, develop a healthy diet and share information and experiences, or you can dream about it. The hard work is good for you and the discipline required to make it happen spills over to your life outside the gym. It's a wonderful life style. It isn't easy, but neither is growing old. You choose.
oldfart

Very well said.

[Valkinator]

Very well said.

Ditto!!!!!!!!!!

[flexxdzl]

Thank ..you all really.. I'm by myself working out and I don't know what is real and what's fake ..there are 9 million creatines and whey proteins and ..people saying take Zma take Tribulus tetris ect..

I read the forum and there's still not a clear choice..but I am so thankful for responses I learn from them..

[flexxdzl]

There is nothing perfect or easy or quick about adding muscle to your body. If you were to go back through the archives of the 35 and over forum you will notice that we have made life style changes regarding exercise and eating habits. In other words, it's for life. If it was as easy as purchasing supplements and lifting weights for a month, everyone would be extremely muscular with low body fat. Not going to happen. Look to the extreme. Look at the professional bodybuilders who do use steroids. I think Dorian Yates at 8 years, was the fastest rising pro ever..it usually takes 10-12 years before the pros look like they do. That has to tell you something. So you can stick around and learn how to properly lift weights, develop a healthy diet and share information and experiences, or you can dream about it. The hard work is good for you and the discipline required to make it happen spills over to your life outside the gym. It's a wonderful life style. It isn't easy, but neither is growing old. You choose.
oldfart

Thank you ..I just start to fade ..after 3 to 4 week ..being in the mirror not seeing a change n( i know that's quick)..lol I'm old ..

I thought things were more cut and dry.. This "" was the diet ..this is the best creatine these are the best supps.. BAM!

Ok so I guess better questions or directions would be.

1 . Where could I find a few diets to choose from ..ones that help build mass

2. I'm using Body fortress whey protien..what's the best whey , creatine and whatever else I need to start with?

3. The guys also had me buy this Beta Alanine 2000 ..I started taking that ..should I stop ect..btw what exactly do that do if anything.


I am thankful for the direction I need it ..lol

[uncleroman]

1.im on higher protein lower carbs
2.i have used body fortress, saw good results not any different than the "on" im taking now. make sure you do a shake right after working out. isolate is considered better than concentrate.
3. no idea. if i had it i would take to determine if it is worth taking
i started taking kre alkalyn creatine and really like it so far.

[uncleroman]

If you picture is real, I wouldn't be worried about any supps until I lost a good 30 pounds or so....worry about your diet 85% and exercising 15% for about a year then worry about supps...

i dont agree, my belief is gain muscle to loose fat. i started lifting heavy, and eating was loosing 2 lbs a week for 16 weeks. now at 19% bf and starting to gain muscle weight back. so anything that helps build muscle will help loose fat, imo

[anton54]

Take it from a guy thats put himself on the "good" road for life.
After having taken a break from the gym for a decade, i returned with a daunting task..........lose 160 lbs. With over 100 lbs lost so far i offer the following:

I've got only a couple of pointers for you that I suggest you consider.

1) There are NO shortcuts , work in = results, no magic pill invented yet.
2) If you are not comfortable changing habits and lifestyle, your gains and or losses will be short-lived.
3) If you are just beginning you are fortunate enough to be in that honeymoon period where you will add muscle and lose fat.

And one last parting word, if it took you years to build the physique you have now, what makes you think that you can reverse it in a month or 2.

imho, take the long road or don't bother

[tonester]

If that pic is real I think taking short cuts is the last thing you should be doing. By that I mean thinking that supplements or steroids are going to do the work for you. Doesn't happen.

Sorry, but you need to fix that distended abdominal wall (doesn't look like just fat) before it's too late to repair. Without a solid core and joint integrity ( I'm betting you have lardosis of the lower back), you're in for a lot of pain and potential injury if you're not careful.

Lose weight.
Exercise for stabilization, mobility and strength (muscle building will come with time).
Get nutrition in order.

Training should consist of:

mobility, movement efficiency, and strength

For strength purposes 3 times per week get in the gym and focus on exercises such as:

bodyweight squats, lunge, stepups, supine row, partner assisted or gravitron pullups, partner assisted or gravitron dips, wall sits, plank, glute bridges, overhead broomstick squats etc.plus light form work on squat and deadlift.

Just pick 4-8 bodyweight type movements for 2-4 sets each, use the bodyweight and go after it. It's difficult to overtrain when using bodyweight as resistance.

Good luck.

[uncleroman]

I just said I wouldn't worry about supps....I would train hard and focus on my diet....

i agree there is no magic pill. i take protein shakes because getting 250-300 grams of protein would be very hard and i would have to walk around nawing on a steak. haha

[flexxdzl]

Yes the pic is real..lol It's me in all my glory..I can follow any plan diet ect I just need one ..I was told to build mass and then worry about trimming down ( my weight is 238).

I am greatful for the responses ...I'm willing to work and put fourth the effort and make it a lifestyle...I just need the right path..and these post are helping me understand alot better..exactly ehat it is I actually amd trying to do..

[JC480]

Alot of newer weightlifters think they need to build mass (like you were told) etc etc.

Or...that they need to "bulk up" and start eating a crazy diet of Big Macs and **** because they think that lifting weights = green light to high calories as if there is a direct pipeline from their stomach to their muscles.

You need to fix your diet. It' s not hard you just have to WANT to.

Lots of raw fruit, vegetables, lean meats like fish, chicken breast, tuna, etc. Plain oats for breakfast, lots of water...keep your calories between 1500 and 2000 a day for a while (and keep track, don't just guess).

Nutrition is 90% of weight loss and 90% of muscle gain...your exercise regimen and training, while very important, is to stimulate muscle growth and improve your conditioning. While it definitely burnings calories, your nutrition is what makes your training effective or useless. One bigmac can negate a day's worth of exercise.