The Religion of Peace

[SeizeTheWeight]

Mods, please leave this thread alone for real discussion.
This is a genuine question to all muslims. You claim that all atrocities are commited by extremist fundamentalist muslims. You claim the beliefs of these extremists are the beliefs of a minority. Every muslim must follow the word of the Quran, considering the fact that you believe it to be the unadulterated word of Mohammed, speaking on behalf of Allah. The problem is, the hatred and violence that comes from these muslims does not come from some obscure interpretation of it. The violence and segregation between muslims and infidels comes straight from the pages, and so straight from the word of Mohammed.

The following is a list of recorded muslim atrocities in the past month. I'm afraid the fundamentalists are not a minority, they are the heart of Islam. By definition, a true muslim is a fundamentalist. I will try and find the quote in the Quran that states it.
I will be posting more than just this post, so bear with me.
The 2 number after the place name of each listing are the number of killed and injured, respectively. Please take the time to read through this list, they are all human lives being needlessly wiped out by muslims on a daily basis. These are just THIS MONTH



8/29/2008 Algeria Batna 7 14 Islamic fundamentalists kill seven Algerians in a highway attack.
8/29/2008 Pakistan Kohat Tunnel 2 29 Fedayeen suicide car bombers murder two civilians.
8/28/2008 China Xinjiang 2 7 Knife-wielding Muslims set upon a group of police, stabbing at least two to death.
8/28/2008 Pakistan Swat 2 0 Two civilians are beheaded by religious radicals.
8/28/2008 Lebanon Sejoud 1 0 Hezbollah gunmen fire on a helicoptor, killing a Lebanese officer.
8/28/2008 Pakistan Bannu 10 16 Islamic bombers target a bus carrying prisoners, leaving at least ten dead.
8/28/2008 Iraq Baghdad 2 0 A man and his wife are gunned down by Islamic terrorists.
8/28/2008 Pakistan Koza Bandai 1 0 The Taliban abduct and murder a civilian.
8/27/2008 Thailand Narathiwat 1 0 Muslim gunmen murder a government social worker.
8/27/2008 India Jammu 6 0 Lashkar-e-Toiba shoot six civilians to death, including a cab driver and his passengers.
8/27/2008 Afghanistan Nangarhar 1 0 A Japanese humanitarian worker on an irrigation project is kidnapped and murdered by the Taliban.
8/27/2008 Thailand Pattani 2 0 A young man and woman are shot to death in separate attacks by radical Islamists.
8/27/2008 Pakistan Wana 2 11 A Taliban ambush leaves two local soldiers dead.
8/27/2008 Thailand Yala 1 0 A 51-year-old electrical worker is shot to death by Mujahid.
8/27/2008 ****lia Mogadishu 2 0 Two civilians are killed in a sudden attack by Islamic militia.
8/26/2008 ****lia Baidoa 2 1 Two people are killed in a Mujahideen grenade attack on their home.
8/26/2008 Pakistan Islamabad 8 20 Sunni radicals manage to kill eight patrons at a cafe with a planted bomb.
8/26/2008 Iraq Jalawla 28 45 A suicide bomber calmly walks up and murders over twenty-five police recruits waiting outside a station.
8/26/2008 Iraq Mandali 5 0 A family of five is taken out by Jihadi roadside bombers as they are traveling to a religious shrine.
8/26/2008 India Kupwara 1 1 A local soldier is shot to death in an ambush by Islamic militants.
8/25/2008 Pakistan Swat 10 2 Ten occupants of a home are killed when Talibanis fire rockets into it.
8/25/2008 Sudan Darfur 32 135 Women and children are among the thirty-two bodies counted following a government attack on a civilian refugee camp.
8/25/2008 Pakistan Shakardara 2 0 Two tribesmen are killed and several girls schools are blown up during a rampage by Islamic hardliners.
8/25/2008 Iraq Mussayab 1 2 Jihadis kill a soldier's daughter and injure his two sons with a bomb near his home.
8/24/2008 Iraq Baghdad 30 42 Thirty people attending a celebration are blown apart by a Fedayeen suicide bomber.
8/24/2008 Pakistan Matta 4 0 Islamists kidnap and bind four civilians, then shoot them to death.
8/24/2008 Iraq Baghdad 9 32 Nine civilians are murdered in three separate Jihad bombings.
8/23/2008 Pakistan Kurram 4 7 Four people are killed in a sectarian clash.
8/23/2008 Pakistan North Waziristan 2 0 Two civilians are kidnapped and shot to death by Sunni radicals.
8/23/2008 Chechnya Agishty 2 2 Jihad warriors take out two Russians with a roadside bomb.
8/23/2008 Iraq Kirkuk 5 8 Five people are killed when Fedayeen suicide bombers strike an auto dealership.
8/23/2008 Pakstan Swat 15 23 A Holy Warrior sends over a dozen innocents to Allah with a car bomb.
8/23/2008 Pakistan Abuha 2 4 Two people are killed when Islamists detonate a bomb at an intersection.
8/22/2008 Pakistan Peshawar 1 2 Taliban militants fire rockets into a police station, killing one officer.
8/22/2008 Pakistan NWFP 2 14 Two security force personnel are killed when Mujahideen attack their vehicle with a grenade.
8/22/2008 India Ganderbal 1 1 A local soldier is shot to death by Islamic militants while standing guard.
8/21/2008 Pakistan Kohat 1 0 Muslim radicals on motorcycles gun down a young soldier.
8/21/2008 Pakistan Wah 78 67 Over seventy innocents are slaughtered by twin Fedayeen suicide bombers outside a factory.
8/21/2008 ****lia Mogadishu 6 11 Six civilians are killed during two separate attacks by Islamic militia.
8/21/2008 Iraq Mosul 1 0 A civilian is abducted and beheaded by suspected fundamentalists.
8/21/2008 Pakistan Swat 5 1 Five civilians are brutally gunned down in two Taliban drive-bys.
8/21/2008 Thailand Narathiwat 2 17 A journalist is among two people murdered by Muslim car bombers.
8/20/2008 Algeria Bouira 12 38 Islamic fundamentalists murder a dozen civilians with two bomb attacks, one on a hotel.
8/20/2008 ****lia Kismayo 9 22 Al Shabaab Islamists attack a town, killing at least nine civilians.
8/20/2008 Iraq Baghdad 7 6 Seven civilians are murdered by Islamic terrorists in various attacks, including a woman and a player on a soccer field.
8/20/2008 Pakistan Sargodha 1 0 Two brothers kill their grown sister with knives over suspicions that she is engaging in unauthorized sex.
8/20/2008 Pakistan Peshawar 2 0 Jaish-i-Islami shoot two accused prostitutes to death, then mutilate their faces with knives.
8/20/2008 ****lia Mogadishu 4 7 Four civilians are killed during an ambush by Islamic hardliners.
8/19/2008 Afghanistan Surobi 10 21 Ten French soldiers are brutally ambushed and killed. Four were murdered in captivity.
8/19/2008 Afghanistan Khost 2 0 Two civilians are killed in attacks by Sunni suicide bombers.
8/19/2008 Pakistan Dera Ismail Khan 30 32 A man walks into a hospital, yells "Allah Akbar," then detonates, slaughtering over thirty innocents.
8/19/2008 Iraq Baqubah 35 0 Thirty-five victims of Sunni terrorists are found bound and executed in two mass graves.
8/19/2008 Algeria Issers 43 38 An Islamic fundamentalist drives a car packed with explosives into a police school. Over forty are killed in the carnage.
8/18/2008 Afghanistan Khost 10 13 Ten civilians are murdered by a suicide bomber along a city street. The victims are described as "poor laborers."
8/18/2008 Pakistan Swat 1 0 A civilian is shot to death by Mujahideen.
8/18/2008 Iraq Baghdad 1 1 Radicals gun down a cleric. His wife is also shot in the attack.
8/18/2008 Iraq Ramadi 5 7 Five Iraqis are taken down by a Fedayeen car bomber.
8/18/2008 Pakistan Kari Wala 1 0 A young woman is murdered by her cousins for having sex with a man she loved.
8/18/2008 Philippines Mindanao 49 50 Forty-nine Christian villagers are shot or hacked to death by Moro Islamists rampaging through three towns.
8/18/2008 ****lia Doblai 2 2 Fundamentalists hurl a grenade into a meeting place used by a sect, killing two people.
8/17/2008 Afghanistan Helmand 3 4 A woman and two small children are killed when Mujahideen use them as human shields.
8/17/2008 Iraq Baghdad 15 29 An al-Qaeda suicide bomber on a motorcycle attacks a crowd outside a Sunni mosque, killing at least fifteen innocents.
8/17/2008 ****lia Dinsoor 2 0 Two humanitarian workers are murdered by hardline Islamists.
8/17/2008 Philippines Lanao del Sur 7 11 Moro Islamists ambush a logistics transport, killing seven riders.
8/17/2008 Azerbaijan Baku 2 8 Islamic extremists are thought responsible for hurling a grenade into a mosque.
8/16/2008 Afghanistan Logar 1 0 A drum player is shot to death by Islamic hardliners.
8/16/2008 Pakistan Hayatabad 1 0 A prominent Shia leader is shot to death outside his home by Sunni militants.
8/16/2008 India Kishtwar 1 0 Mujahideen abduct and murder a civilian.
8/16/2008 Afghanistan Kandahar 10 0 Ten Afghans are blown up by religious extremists in a roadside attack.
8/16/2008 Iraq Baghdad 6 11 Six more Shia pilgrims are murdered by Sunni bombers in an attack on their minibus.
8/16/2008 Philippines Panamao 2 0 Two off-duty soldiers are brutally murdered by Abu Sayyaf after being stranded by a broken motorcycle.
8/16/2008 Pakistan Shawaal 1 0 A 40-year-old man is beheaded by religious radicals.
8/15/2008 Iraq Balad 9 48 Sunnis detonate a bomb on a bus carrying Shiite pilgrims, killing nine.
8/15/2008 ****lia Mogadishu 5 0 Islamic militia kill five people with a roadside bomb along a city street.
8/14/2008 Pakistan Umari 1 0 A pro-government tribesman is shot to death by the Taliban
8/14/2008 Iraq Karbala 18 75 An al-Qaeda female suicide bomber strikes a group of Shiite pilgrims, slaughtering at least eighteen.
8/14/2008 Pakistan Swat 1 0 A civilian is abducted and riddled with bullets by Sunni militants.
8/14/2008 Iraq Baqubah 1 2 An 8-year-old girl is killed by Islamic bomber, who also wound her mother and sister.
8/14/2008 Pakistan Swat 2 0 A woman and a boy are killed when Islamists fire on security forces in a populated area.
8/14/2008 Algeria Jijel 2 0 An army officer and his driver are killed by Islamic fundamentalists in their car. A separate bombing kills one other person.

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8/13/2008 Pakistan Lahore 9 35 Islamists bomb an independence day celebration, killing at least nine innocents.
8/13/2008 Thailand Yala 1 2 A 57-year-old man is killed, and his family injured, when Mujahideen toss a grenade into his home.
8/13/2008 Iraq Khan Bani Saad 1 2 A local woman is taken out by Mujahideen bombers.
8/13/2008 Thailand Pattani 1 19 Islamists gun down a 26-year-old man, then plant a bomb to catch first responders.
8/13/2008 Lebanon Tripoli 18 45 Eighteen people at a bus stop are blown to bits by Islamic bombers.
8/13/2008 Iraq Mosul 3 15 Islamic bombers kill three Iraqis at an intersection.
8/13/2008 Afghanistan Helmand 5 4 Taliban bombers murder five local police.
8/13/2008 Afghanistan Logar 4 0 Three female humanitarian workers and their driver are brutally shot to death at point blank range by Holy Warriors.
8/13/2008 Iraq Qayara 2 10 Two patrons are killed when Jihadis set off a car bomb at a market.
8/13/2008 Pakistan Kirri 1 5 Baitullah Mehsud terrorists ambush a group of local soldiers, killing one.
8/13/2008 Pakistan Bajaur 1 0 A doctor is killed while being held as a human shield by Mujahideen.
8/13/2008 India Kishtwar 1 0 A civilian is shot to death by Muslim militants outside his home.
8/13/2008 Algeria Bouira 1 0 A local guard is killed by a bomb planted by Islamic fundamentalists.
8/12/2008 Germany Ruesselsheim 1 0 A 55-year-old woman is shot to death in an honor attack involving two Muslim groups.
8/12/2008 China Xinjiang 3 0 Three security guards are stabbed to death by Muslim militants.
8/12/2008 Thailand Narathiwat 3 1 Two small children and their father are brutally gunned down by radical Muslims while out on a family trip.
8/12/2008 Pakistan Peshawar 13 11 A child is among thirteen people killed when Sunni bombers target a minibus.
8/12/2008 Philippines Basilan 4 0 At least four Catholic civilians are killed when Moro Islamists strafe their homes with gunfire.
8/12/2008 Iraq Ramadi 6 0 A woman and three children are among six family members shot to death by the Religion of Peace.
8/12/2008 Iraq Baqubah 2 10 A female suicide bomber takes out two Iraqis.
8/11/2008 Iraq Baqubah 4 16 A female suicide bomber takes out four Iraqis.
8/11/2008 Afghanistan Kabul 3 12 Three Afghan civilians are blown apart by a suicide car bomber.
8/11/2008 Iraq Wajihiya 5 3 Five women field laborers are slain by Jihad bombers while walking to work.
8/11/2008 Afghanistan Uruzgan 6 3 A child is among a half dozen civilians killed while being used as human shields by Holy Warriors.
8/11/2008 Philippines Basilan 2 12 Two civilians are killed when Moro Islamists storm a village.
8/11/2008 ****lia Mogadishu 8 0 Holy Warriors kill eight soldiers in a brutal ambush.
8/11/2008 Pakistan Bajaur 2 0 Islamists capture and then cut the heads off of two civilians.
8/11/2008 Iran Saravan 2 0 A Sunni group called 'soldiers of Allah' kidnaps and executes two security guards.
8/10/2008 Philippines Midsayap 3 0 Moro Islamist snipers take out three local soldiers.
8/10/2008 Afghanistan Kandahar 5 3 A group of migrant laborers is blown up by Taliban bombers. Five are killed.
8/10/2008 Iraq Baghdad 9 46 Jihad bombers murder nine Iraqis in three attacks.
8/10/2008 Iraq Tarmiyah 4 21 Four locals are taken out in a suicide bombing.
8/10/2008 Iraq Khanaqin 3 25 Fedayeen bombers blow themselves up in a minibus along a city street, killing three innocent bystanders.
8/10/2008 Pakistan South Waziristan 1 0 An elderly man is shot to death by Islamic terrorists.
8/10/2008 Pakistan Kurram 10 24 A second day of Sunni-Shia sectarian violence leaves ten people dead.
8/10/2008 China Xinjiang 8 4 Eight people are killed in a series of suicide bomb attacks by Muslim militants.
8/10/2008 Algeria Tigzirt 3 0 Islamic fundamentalists blow up a police station, killing three officers.
8/10/2008 Algeria Zemmouri 8 19 Eight Algerians are killed by a suicide bomber.
8/10/2008 Saudi Arabia Riyadh 1 0 A 26-year-old woman has her tongue cut out, then is set on fire by her father (a moral policeman) for converting to Christianity.
8/10/2008 Pakistan Hangu 1 0 Taliban hardliners are suspected in the shooting death of a local cop.
8/9/2008 Iraq Baqubah 16 0 An al-Qaeda mass grave is discovered. Five women are among the sixteen victims tortured and murdered.
8/9/2008 Iraq Baghdad 1 2 Fundamentalists shoot at a swimming pool manager, injuring him but killing one of his sons.
8/9/2008 Nigeria Kano 1 0 A 50-year-old man is beaten to death by a Muslim mob for alleged blasphemy.
8/9/2008 Algeria Zemmouri 8 8 A suicide bomber takes out eight Algerians along a city street.
8/9/2008 Pakistan Swat 8 15 Eight local cops are shot to death inside their station by Islamic radicals.
8/9/2008 ****lia Alamada 4 2 Three civilians and a local cop are murdered in a grenade attack by Islamic militia.
8/9/2008 Pakistan Kurram 16 25 Sunnis and Shia settle their sectarian differences with gunfire, leaving sixteen dead.
8/8/2008 Pakistan Bajaur 3 0 Three civilians are murdered by the Taliban - two by beheading.
8/8/2008 Iraq Tal Afar 25 74 Jihadis bomb a marketplace, slaughtering over twenty Iraqis.
8/8/2008 Afghanistan Kunar 1 2 A child is killed in a Taliban ambush.
8/8/2008 Pakistan Sadeeqabad 22 0 Twenty-two soldiers, some wounded, are riddled with bullets after being captured by Mujahideen.
8/8/2008 Afghanistan Paktika 5 0 Five local cops are murdered by Islamic bombers.
8/8/2008 Thailand Pattani 1 0 A 60-year-old Buddhist is beheaded by Islam's Holy Warriors.
8/8/2008 Thailand Yala 2 0 A fruit trader having dinner with his wife is among two people shot to death by Muslim terrorists in separate attacks.
8/7/2008 Phillipines Zamboanga 2 1 A 16-year-old and his father are shot to death by suspected Abu Sayyaf militants.
8/7/2008 Pakistan Swat 4 0 Fundamentalists burn down a girls school then shoot three people to death and behead another.
8/7/2008 Pakistan Shahdara 2 0 Two sisters in their 20s are murdered by their brother over suspicions of 'illicit' relations with local men.
8/7/2008 Iraq Mosul 4 6 Terrorists plant a bomb on a corpse, luring four investigators to their deaths.
8/6/2008 Pakistan Tirah 4 12 Fighting breaks out between Islamic fundamentalist groups, leaving four dead.
8/6/2008 Pakistan Swat 2 15 Islamic militants burn down several girls schools and kill two people, including a child, in separate attacks.
8/6/2008 Thailand Yala 0 1 A school principal is shot multiple times by Shahid while on his way home.
8/6/2008 Iraq Baquba 16 0 Sixteen men kidnapped by Sunni extremists are found bound and executed.
8/6/2008 Iraq Mosul 1 11 A suicide bomber kills a civilian and injures eleven more.
8/6/2008 Afghanistan Lashkar Gah 7 2 Religious extremists attack a police post, killing seven local officers.
8/6/2008 ****lia Lafoole 1 0 Islamic radicals gun down the head of an orphanage.
8/5/2008 Ingushetia Nazran 2 4 Muslim hardliners take down two local cops in separate Kalashnikov attacks.
8/5/2008 Pakistan Mughli 1 0 A mother of two is hacked to death with an axe by her cousin who objected to a suspected affair.
8/5/2008 Iraq Basra 1 0 Fundamentalists shoot a barber to death for shaving beards.
8/5/2008 Iraq Kirkuk 3 0 al-Qaeda militants slit the throats of three Iraqis.
8/5/2008 Philippines Aleosan 1 0 One person is killed when Moro Islamic terrorists storm a sugar plantation.
8/4/2008 China Xinjiang 16 16 Islamists stage a brutal grenade attack on a group of police, killing sixteen.
8/4/2008 Iraq Baghdad 2 15 Jihadis manage to kill two civilians with a roadside bomb.
8/3/2008 Afghanistan Ghazni 4 0 Religious extremists storm a police post, killing four officers.
8/3/2008 Afghanistan Helmand 1 0 Islamic extremists gun down a local judge.
8/3/2008 Iraq Latifiyah 6 13 Six civilians are killed by a Jihad roadside blast.
8/3/2008 Algeria Kabylie 0 25 Twenty-five people are injured in a suicide blast.
8/3/2008 Iraq Baghdad 12 22 Islamic terrorists manage to kill a dozen Iraqis with a truck bomb.
8/3/2008 ****lia Mogadishu 20 47 Twenty civilians, mostly women streetsweepers, are blown to bits by a massive bomb planted by Islamists.
8/3/2008 Pakistan Temargara 2 2 Two government tax collectors are shot to death by Sharia-minded militants.
8/3/2008 Pakistan Bajaur 1 0 A civilian is shot to death by Sunni extremists.
8/3/2008 Sudan Nyala 6 28 Janjaweed militia ambush a civilian convoy, killing six people.
8/3/2008 Afghanistan Paktika 0 0 Two clerics are killed while trying to assemble a suicide vest in their mosque.
8/3/2008 Afghanistan Gardiz 3 0 Three civilians are murdered by Taliban militants.
8/2/2008 Iraq Baqubah 5 3 Sunni radicals murder five Iraqis with a roadside bomb.
8/2/2008 Pakistan Kabal 8 5 Islamic hard-liners bomb a police van killing eight people.
8/2/2008 Pal. Auth. Gaza 1 16 A young boy is killed in fighting between the Muslim terror groups, Hamas and Fatah.
8/2/2008 Thailand Yala 1 0 A 29-year-old civilian is shot to death while riding a motorcycle.
8/2/2008 Afghanistan Kandahar 13 6 The bride and groom are among thirteen people blown to bits when Islamists target a wedding party with a bomb.
8/2/2008 India Ramban 1 0 A youth is shot to death by Islamic militants.
8/2/2008 Ingushetia Nazran 1 1 Suspected Islamists open up on two policemen with automatic weapons.
8/1/2008 Afghanistan Kunar 1 0 Radical Sunnis take out a civilian in a roadside blast.
8/1/2008 Afghanistan Nimroz 3 5 Two children and a woman are murdered by a Fedayeen suicide bomber.
8/1/2008 Iraq Rashad 3 1 Jihadis kill three Iraqis with a roadside bomb.
8/1/2008 ****lia Mogadishu 1 0 Islamic militia blast a Ugandan peacekeeper to death with a bomb planted at an airport.
8/1/2008 India Reasi 1 0 A boy is abducted by Mujahid, who then slit his throat.

[SeizeTheWeight]

These deaths are the direct result of the Quran's violence filled brainwashing.
Islam breeds extremism, there is no other way to say it. A true muslim must follow the commands and teachings of the Quran.
Here are a few of those teachings (I am aware that a minority of these quotes may be slightly mistranslated or taken slightly out of context, but the vast majority have not. About a year ago I went through them all in depth, and although I was annoyed that some of them weren't perfectly accurate, most of them are. Muslims, please refrain from your classic argument of "I noticed 3 of them that are mistranslated/taken out of context, your whole point is invalid!". It's just not the case, the majority of this is in your Quran, feel free to argue them if you want to go into detail, but don't just dismiss it completely)


Don't bother to warn the disbelievers. Allah has blinded them. Theirs will be an awful doom. 2:6

Allah has sickened their hearts. A painful doom is theirs because they lie. 2:10

A fire has been prepared for the disbelievers, whose fuel is men and stones. 2:24

Disbelievers will be burned with fire. 2:39, 90

"Guard yourselves against a day when no soul will in aught avail another, nor will intercession be accepted from it, nor will compensation be received from it, nor will they be helped."
There will come a day when Allah will refuse all prayers and help no one. 2:48

Allah brags about drowning the Egyptian army. 2:50

"Whosoever hath done evil and his sin surroundeth him; such are rightful owners of the Fire." 2:81

If you believe in only part of the Scripture, you will suffer in this life and go to hell in the next. 2:85

Jews are the greediest of all humankind. They'd like to live 1000 years. But they are going to hell. 2:96

For disbelievers is a painful doom. 2:104

For unbelievers: ignominy in this world, an awful doom in the next. 2:114

"And thou wilt not be asked about the owners of hell-fire." (They are the non-muslims.) 2:119

Allah will leave the disbelievers alone for a while, but then he will compel them to the doom of Fire. 2:126

The doom of the disbelievers will not be lightened. 2:162

Allah is severe punishment! 2:165-6

They will not emerge from the Fire. 2:167

Those who hide the Scripture will have their bellies eaten with fire. Theirs will be a painful doom. 2:174

How constant are they in their strife to reach the Fire! 2:175

"Fight in the way of Allah." 2:190, 2:244

Believers must retaliate. Those who transgress will have a painful doom. 2:178

Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kill them. Such is the reward of disbelievers. (But if they desist in their unbelief, then don't kill them.) 2:191-2

"Guard us from the doom of Fire." 2:201

Those who fail in their duty to Allah are proud and sinful. They will all go to hell. 2:206

War is ordained by Allah, and all Muslims must be willing to fight, whether they like it or not. 2:216

Those who die in their disbelief will burn forever in the Fire. 2:217

Those who marry unbelievers will burn in the Fire. 2:221

Disbelievers worship false gods. The will burn forever in the Fire. 2:257

"Those who swallow usury ... are rightful owners of the Fire." 2:275

Those who disbelieve the revelations of Allah, theirs will be a heavy doom. 3:4

Those who disbelieve will be fuel for the Fire. 3:10

Those who disbelieve shall be overcome and gathered unto Hell. 3:12

"Guard us from the punishment of Fire." 3:16

Non-muslims will be punished by Allah for their nonbelief. 3:19

Those who disbelieve, promise them a painful doom. 3:21

"They [Christians and Jews] say: The Fire will not touch us save for a certain number of days. That which they used to invent hath deceived them regarding their religion." (The Fire will burn them forever.) 3:24

Theirs will be a painful doom. 3:77

All non-Muslims will be rejected by Allah after they die. 3:85

Apostates will be cursed by Allah, angels, and men. They will have a painful doom. 3:86-88

Disbelievers will have a painful doom. And they will have no helpers. 3:91

"Ye were upon the brink of an abyss of fire, and He did save you from it." 3:103

Disbelievers will have their faces blackened on the last day. They will face an awful doom. 3:105-6

Those who disbelieve will be burnt in the Fire. 3:116

The Fire is prepared for disbelievers. 3:131

We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Their habitation is the Fire 3:151

If you die fighting for Allah, you'll be rewarded in heaven. 3:157

"Is one who followeth the pleasure of Allah as one who hath earned condemnation from Allah, whose habitation is the Fire?"
Unbelievers will burn forever in the Fire. 3:162

"Think not of those, who are slain in the way of Allah, as dead."
(Quoted by Osama bin Laden in his 'letter to America' regarding the 11 September 2001 attacks.) 3:169-171

Theirs will be an awful doom. 3:176

Disbelievers do not harm Allah, but will have a painful doom. 3:177

Disbelievers will have a shameful doom. 3:178

Whoso is removed from the Fire and is made to enter paradise, he indeed is triumphant." (The rest will burn forever in the Fire.) 3:185

Those who brag about doing good will go to hell. 3:188

"Preserve us from the doom of Fire." 3:191

"Our Lord! Whom Thou causest to enter the Fire: him indeed Thou hast confounded. For evil-doers there will be no helpers." 3:192

Those who die fighting for Allah will go to heaven. 3:195

Disbelievers will go to Hell. 3:196

Don't steal from orphans (or Allah will burn you forever in hell). 4:10

Those who disobey Allah and his messenger will be burnt with fire and suffer a painful doom. 4:14

For the disbelievers and those who make a last-minute conversion, Allah has prepared a painful doom. 4:18

"We shall cast him into Fire, and that is ever easy for Allah." 4:30

For disbelievers, We prepare a shameful doom. 4:37

"Sanction is given unto those who fight because they have been wronged."
Quoted by Osama bin Laden in his 'letter to America' as a justification for the 11 September 2001 attacks. 4:39

Hell is sufficient for their burning. 4:55

Unbelievers will be tormented forever with fire. When their skin is burned off, a fresh skin will be provided. 4:56

Allah will bestow a vast reward on those who fight in religious wars. 4:74

Believers fight for Allah; disbelievers fight for the devil. So fight the minions of the devil. 4:76

Have no unbelieving friends. Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them. 4:89

If the unbelievers do not offer you peace, kill them wherever you find them. Against such you are given clear warrant. 4:91

Believers who kill believers will face the awful doom of hell. 4:93

"Their habitation will be hell, an evil journey's end." 4:97

Those who oppose the messenger and become unbelievers will go to hell. 4:115

Allah will lead them astray and they will go to hell. 4:119-121

Those who believe, then disbelieve, then believe and disbelieve again will never be forgiven by Allah. 4:137

For the hypocrites there will be a painful doom. 4:138

Allah will gather hypocrites and disbelievers into hell. 4:140

The hypocrites will be in the lowest part of hell and no one will help them there. 4:145

You must believe everything Allah and his messengers tell you. Those who don't are disbelievers and will face a painful doom. 4:150-151

For the wrongdoing Jews, Allah has prepared a painful doom. 4:160-1

God will guide disbelievers down a road that leads to everlasting hell. 4:168-169

If you don't do good works, Allah will punish you with a painful doom. 4:173

Those who deny Islam will be losers in the Hereafter. 5:5

Disbelievers are the rightful owners of Hell. 5:10

"The owners of the fire. That is the reward of evil-doers." 5:29

Those who make war with Allah and his messenger will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. That is how they will be treated in this world, and in the next they will have an awful doom. 5:33

Disbelievers will have a painful doom. 5:36

Disbelievers will want to come out of the Fire, but will not. Their will be a lasting doom. 5:37

Cut off the hands of thieves. It is an exemplary punishment from Allah. 5:38

Allah makes some people sin. He will not cleanse their hearts. They will have ignominy in this world, and in the Hereafter an awful doom. 5:41

Life for life, eye for eye, nose for nose, ear for ear, and tooth for tooth. 5:45

Christians will be burned in the Fire. 5:72

Christians are wrong about the Trinity. For that they will have a painful doom. 5:73

Muslims that make friends with disbelievers will face a doom prepared for them by Allah. 5:80

Disbelievers will be owners of hell-fire. 5:86

Allah will test believers to see if they are afraid. Those who fail a second test will suffer a a painful doom. 5:94

After agreeing to send down a table of food from heaven, Jesus warns his disciples that will catch holy hell if they ever stop believing. 5:115

Those who deny the truth of Islam will be punished by Allah. 6:5

"See the nature of the consequence for the rejecters!" 6:11

Many generations have been destroyed by Allah. 6:6

Disbelievers will say when they see the Fire that they would have believed if they had known the truth. But they are all liars. 6:27-28

"Evil-doers flout the revelations of Allah." 6:33

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Allah will torment those how deny his revelations. 6:49

Those who disbelieve will be forced to drink boiling water, and will face a painful doom. 6:70

When nonbelievers die, the angels will deliver to them doom and degradation. 6:93

Allah allows some to disbelieve in the afterlife, and to take pleasure in their disbelief, so that he can torment them forever after they die. 6:113

Allah chooses to lead some astray, and he lays ignominy on those who disbelieve. 6:125

Allah will send everyone the Fire, except those he chooses to deliver. 6:128

Let the idolaters kill their children. It is Allah's will. 6:137

The worst thing anyone can do is deny the revelations of Allah. Those who do so will be awared an evil doom. 6:157

How many a township have We destroyed! As a raid by night, or while they slept at noon, Our terror came unto them. 7:4-5

Allah banishes Iblis and promises to fill hell with those who are mislead by him. 7:18

Disbelievers are the rightful owners of the Fire. 7:36

Entire nations have entered the Fire. Some get a double torment. 7:38

"Taste the doom for what ye used to earn." 7:39

Disbelievers will be excluded from heaven. Theirs will be a bed of hell. 7:40-41

Those in the fire will be taunted by those in the Garden. "So how's it going down there? Are you enjoying the warmth of the Fire?" 7:44

Those in the Garden will plead with Allah not to be cast into the Fire. 7:47

Those in the Fire will cry out to those in heaven, saying: "Pour water on us." But Allah has forbidden that to disbelievers. 7:50

Allah drowned everyone on earth (except Noah and his family) because they disbelieved. 7:64

Those who believe incorrectly will face the terror and wrath of Allah. 7:71

"We cut the root of those who denied Our revelations and were not believers." 7:72

Allah killed the disbelievers with an earthquake. 7:78

Allah killed everyone in Sodom and Gomorrah except Lot and his daughters.
7:83-84

"So the earthquake seized them."
Allah killed the disbelievers with an earthquake. 7:90-91

"How can I sorrow for a people that rejected (truth)?"
Shu'eyb tells the Allah's victims that they deserved to die for rejecting Islam. 7:93

"Then We seized them unawares, when they perceived not."
Unbelievers are never safe from Allah's wrath. 7:95-99

"We straitened Pharaoh's folk with famine."
Allah sent a famine on all of the Egyptians to punish Pharaoh. 7:130

"So We sent against them the flood and the locusts and the vermin and the frogs and the blood - a succession of clear signs." 7:133

"We drowned them in the sea: because they denied Our revelations." 7:136

Those who worship the calf will suffer terror and humiliation from Allah. 7:152

"But those of them who ... changed the word ... We sent down upon them wrath from heaven." 7:162

"Why preach ye to a folk whom Allah is about to destroy or punish with an awful doom?" 7:164

"When they forgot that whereof they had been reminded, We ... visited [them] with dreadful punishment." 7:165

Allah will punish the disbelieving Jews until the Day of Resurrection. 7:167

Allah has already sent many people and jinn to hell. They were worse than cows: they couldn't see or hear and were neglectful. 7:179

"Allah ... cut the root of the disbelievers."
Allah destroyed the unbelievers. 8:7

Allah will throw fear into the hearts of the disbelievers, and smite their necks and fingers. 8:12

Disbelievers will be tormented in the Fire. 8:14

When you fight with disbelievers, do not retreat. Those who do will go to hell. 8:15-16

Those that the Muslims killed were not really killed by them. It was Allah who did the killing. 8:17

Taste of the doom because ye disbelieve. 8:35

Those who disbelieve will be gathered into hell. 8:36

"The wicked will He place piece upon piece, and heap them all together, and consign them unto hell." 8:37

The angels smite the face and backs of disbelievers, saying: "Taste the punishment of burning!" 8:50

Don't let the disbelievers think they can escape. They are your enemy and the enemy of Allah. 8:59-60

Had it not been for an ordinance of Allah which had gone before, an awful doom had come upon you." 8:68

He [Allah] gave thee [Muhammad] power over them."
Allah gave Muhammad slaves as war booty. 8:70-1

Give tidings (O Muhammad) of a painful doom to those who disbelieve. 9:3

Slay the idolaters wherever you find them. 9:5

Don't let idolaters tend the sanctuaries. Their works are in vain and they will be burned in the Fire. 9:17

"Count ye the slaking of a pilgrim's thirst ... as (equal to the worth of) him who believeth in Allah and the Last Day, and striveth in the way of Allah?"
Helping the poor is not as important as believing in Islam and fighting in holy wars. 9:19

Give tidings (O Muhammad) of a painful doom to the rich and greedy Christian monks and Jewish rabbis. 9:34

Those who are tormented in the Fire will have their foreheads and backs branded. 9:35

If you refuse to fight, Allah will afflict you with a painful doom. 9:39

Disbelievers go to hell. 9:49

"Allah will afflict you with a doom from Him or at our hands." 9:52

Those who vex the Prophet, for them there is a painful doom. 9:60

Those who oppose Allah and His messenger will burn in the fire of hell. 9:63

Allah promises hypocrites and disbelievers the fire of hell. Allah curses them. They will have a lasting torment. 9:68

Fight the disbelievers and hypocrites. Be harsh with them. They are all going to hell anyway. 9:73

Allah will afflict disbelievers with a painful doom in this world and the Hereafter. 9:74

"Theirs will be a painful doom." 9:79

Those who refuse to give their wealth and lives to Allah will face the fire of hell. 9:81-83

For disbelievers there will be a painful doom. 9:90

Non-muslim who pretend to believe (so they won't be killed by Muslims) are unclean and will go to hell. 9:95

The unbelieving Arabs will be punished by Allah with an evil fortune. 9:97-98

"We shall chastise them twice; then they will be relegated to a painful doom." 9:101

Those that ignore Allah will be thown into the fire of hell. 9:109

Believers must fight for Allah. They must kill and be killed , and are bound to do so by the Torah, Gospel, and Quran. But Allah will reward them for it. 9:111

Don't pray for idolaters (not even for your family) after it is clear they are people of hell-fire. 9:113

Fight disbelievers who are near you, and let them see the harshness in you. 9:123

Disbelievers will have a boiling drink and a painful doom. 10:4

Those who neglect Allah's revelations will make their home in the Fire. 10:7-8

Allah has destroyed entire generations. 10:13

"Such are rightful owners of the Fire." 10:27

On the last day Allah will kill all the disbelievers (and then he will torture them forever in hell). 10:45

"His doom cometh unto you as a raid by night." 10:50

The damned will feel remorse for what they have done, but it will not save them from the doom that Allah has prepared. 10:54

Those who disbelieved will face a dreadful doom. 10:70

Allah drowned those who disbelieved his revelations. 10:73

Moses asked Allah to harden the hearts of the Egyptians so that they would not believe until they saw the painful doom. 10:88

If you deny the revelations of Allah, you will be among the losers and will "see the painful doom." 10:95-97

"The doom cannot be averted from them, and that which they derided will surround them." 11:8

Allah sent a lasting doom on those who mocked Noah. 11:39

Allah will send a painful doom on several nations. 11:48

"Lo! there cometh unto them a doom which cannot be repelled." 11:76

Allah killed everyone in Sodom and Gomorrah by dropping burning stones on them. 11:82-83

Lo! Is fear for you the doom of a besetting Day." 11:84

"Ye will soon know on whom there cometh a doom that will abase him." 11:93

"He ... will lead them to the Fire for watering-place." 11:98

"The doom of the Hereafter" 11:103

Those in the Fire will suffer as long as the heavens and earth endure. 11:106-7

"Incline not toward those who do wrong lest the Fire touch you." 11:113

Allah will fill hell with humans and jinn. 11:119

"What shall be his reward, who wisheth evil to thy folk, save prison or a painful doom?" 12:25

Disbelievers are the rightful owners of the Fire 13:5

Those who do not answer Allah's call will go to hell. 13:18

Disbelievers will be tormented in this life, and suffer even more pain in the Hereafter. 13:33-34

The reward for disbelievers is the Fire. 13:35

"When Allah doometh there is none that can postpone His doom." 13:41

Woe unto the disbelievers. Theirs will be an awful doom. 14:2

[SeizeTheWeight]

Those who are in hell will be forced to drink festering water which they can hardly swallow. They will want to die, but they will not be able to. Theirs is a harsh doom. 14:16-17

There is no escape from Allah's doom. 14:21

"Lo! for wrong-doers is a painful doom." 14:22

Allah leads wrong-doers astray and then sends them to hell. 14:27-29

"They set up rivals to Allah that they may mislead (men) from His way. Say: Enjoy life (while ye may) for lo! your journey's end will be the Fire." 14:30

"Warn mankind of a day when the doom will come upon them." 14:44

Those in hell will be chained together. Their clothing will be made of pitch and fire will cover their faces. 14:49-50

Iblis will lead humans astray. Only perfect Muslims will be safe from him. The rest will go to hell. 15:39-43

Allah's doom is a dolorous doom. 15:50

Allah made a roof fall in to kill unbelievers. "And the doom came on them whence they knew not." 16:26

Disbelievers are evil and will dwell in hell forever. 16:27-29

Allah "will cause the earth to swallow" those who plan ill-deeds. the doom will come on them when they least expect it. 16:45

Theirs will be the Fire, and they will be abandoned." 16:62

"Theirs will be a painful doom." 16:63

"The Hour of Doom is but a twinkling of the eye." 16:77

"When those who did wrong behold the doom, it will not be made light for them." 16:85

Allah will add doom to doom for those who disbelieve. 16:88

Those who oppose Islam will face an awful doom. 16:94

Disbelievers will have a painful doom. 16:104

Those who loose their faith in Islam will face an awful doom. Allah's wrath is upon them. 16:106

Those who invent lies against Allah will have a painful doom. 16:116-7

Allah made hell to be a dungeon for disbelievers. 17:8

Allah has prepared a painful doom for those who disbelieve in the Hereafter. 17:10

Allah destroyed entire towns. 17:16

How many generations Allah has destroyed since Noah! 17:17

Allah intends to burn people in hell. 17:18

"Set not up with Allah any other god, lest thou be cast into hell." 17:39

"Lo! the doom of thy Lord is to be shunned." 17:57

Allah will destroy every town before the Day of Resurrection. 17:58

Whoever follows Iblis will be cast into hell. 17:63

Allah will send disbelievers astray. Then he'll burn them in hell, increasing the flames from time to time. 17:97-98

Allah has prepared a Fire for the disbelievers. When they want a shower, Allah will give them a shower of molten lead to burn their faces. 18:29

Christians will cry out to Allah's "partners", but they won't hear them; Allah will send them to their doom. 18:52

Those who are condemned to the Fire know they will have no way to escape. 18:53

Nothing prevents non-muslims from believing in Islam. So it's their own fault when they are sent to their doom. 18:55

There is an appointed time in which the doomed will find no escape. 18:58

Allah has destroyed many towns. 18:59

On a certain day, Allah will present hell, in plain view, to the disbelievers. 18:100

Allah will welcome the disbelievers into hell. 18:102

The good works of disbelievers are all in vain. They will go to hell anyway. 18:104-105

Hell is the reward for disbelievers because they made a jest of Allah's revelations and messengers. 18:106

"Woe unto the disbelievers from the meeting of an awful Day."
Jesus was not the Son of God. Those who say he was (Christians) are going to hell. 19:35-37

Allah will pluck out from every sect those who should burn in hell. 19:69-70

"How many a generation have We destroyed before them?"
Allah brags about destroying entire generations. 19:74

Allah will prolong the lives of non-believers so they can see their punishment, either in this world or in the Hour of doom. 19:75

Allah will record what disbelievers say and then prolong their torment. 19:77-79

Allah has sent the devils on the disbelievers to confuse them. 19:83

Allah will "drive the guilty unto hell, a weary herd." 19:86

Allah has destroyed many generations. 19:98

Allah destroyed entire towns, yet the people still disbelieved. 20:6

The people cried out for mercy, but Allah killed them anyway. 20:15

Lo! it hath been revealed unto us that the doom will be for him who denieth and turneth away." 20:48

"There [in hell] he will neither die nor live." 20:74

Those who do not believe Allah's revelations will face doom in the Hereafter. 20:127

Allah has destroyed many generations. 20:128

Allah destroyed entire towns, yet the people still disbelieved. 21:6

"And one of them who should say: Lo! I am a god beside Him, that one We should repay with hell." 21:29

Disbelievers will not be able to put out the fire on their faces and backs. They will be stupefied and no one will help them. 21:39-40

"Fear the Lord ... and dread the Hour of doom." 21:49

Every person alive at the time of the flood was evil. So Allah drowned them all. 21:77

The disbelievers will stare in terror at what Allah has in store for them. 21:97-99

When the doom of Allah comes, pregnant women will suffer miscarriages, and men will act like they are drunk. 22:1-2

The devil will guide some to the punishment of the Flame. 22:3-4

Those who turn from the way of Allah will face ignominy in this world and burning in the next. 22:9

Whoever thinks that Allah will not give Muhammad victory should go hang himself. 22:15

"There are many unto whom the doom is justly due. Allah doeth what he will." 22:18

Disbelievers will wear garments of fire, boiling fluid will be poured on their heads, their bellies and skin will be melted, they will be tormented with iron hooks, and when they try to escape they will be driven back with the taunt: Taste the doom of burning. 22:19-22

Allah will provide the disbelievers with a painful doom. 22:25

How many towns Allah has destroyed! 22:45

"They will bid thee hasten on the Doom." 22:47

Those who disregard Allah's revelations are the owners of the Fire. 22:51

"Those who disbelieve will not cease to be in doubt thereof until the Hour come upon them unawares, or there come unto them the doom of a disastrous day." 22:55

Those who disbelieve Allah's revelations will have a shameful doom. 22:57

Those who disbelieve Allah's revelations will burn in the Fire. 22:72

Allah told Noah not to bother pleading for the people he was about to drown. 23:27

Those who don't believe in the Hereafter will receive extreme punishment from Allah. 23:74-77

"Those whose scales are light are those who lose their souls, in hell abiding." 23:103

When fire burns their faces, they will be glum. 23:104

Scourge adulterers and adulteresses with 100 stripes. Do not show them any pity. Have a party of believers watch the punishment. 24:2

Those who spread slander will face an awful doom. 24:11

Those who murmur will face an awful doom. 24:14

Those who traduce virtuous, believing women ... cursed are they in the world and the Hereafter. Theirs will be an awful doom." 24:23

Disbelievers will never escape the Fire that will be their home. 24:57

Those who deny the coming of the Hour will be chained together and burned with fire. They will pray for their own destruction. 25:11-13

Allah will force the evil-doers to taste great torment. 25:19

It will be a hard day for disbelievers and wrong-doers. They will gnaw on their hands and wish they had chosen Islam. 25:26-27

"Those who will be gathered on their faces unto hell" 25:34

Those who deny Muhammad's revelations will be destroyed. 25:36

Allah drowned everyone in the flood of Noah, and has prepared a painful doom for evil-doers. 25:37

"They [the non-muslims] will know, when they behold the doom, who is more astray as to the road." 25:42

"The doom of hell; lo! the doom thereof is anguish." 25:65

Those who cry out to another god with Allah will be tormented doubly in hell. 25:68-69

"Hell will appear plainly to the erring." 26:91

Allah killed those that ignored Hud's warnings. 26:124-139

Allah destroyed the people in Lot's town with a dreadful rain. 26:172-3

Many will not believe until they see the painful doom. 26:201

Those who believe in another god are doomed. 26:213

Allah leads those who do not believe in the Hereafter astray by making things work out OK in this life, so that he can torment them forever in the next. They will get the worst punishment and will be the greatest losers. 27:4-5

"Allah destroyed them and their people, every one." 27:51

[drew101]

Why not do one on the difference between Roman Catholisim and the teachings of the Bible?

Then we will see what is the real threat to the world.

[SeizeTheWeight]

I will do if there's a need for it.
Right now though, Roman Catholics aren't slaughtering people in vast numbers on a daily basis. Roman Catholics aren't raising children with the sole intention of turning them into killers so that they may be martyred. Roman Catholics don't take the Bible to be the word of God, word for word. The Bible was written by many different authors, none of whom claimed to be having a personal connection with God and dictating His word verbatim

[72cutlass]

A christain country was the only country ever to drop a nuke on anyone.

Hitler was christian and stated in Mein Kampf he believed he was doing the lords work by exterminating the jews.

There ya go, to events that probably almost total everything you listed.

Also for ****s and grins lets look at another argument that can be made. Islam is about 600 years younger then christianity, go look how violent christains were during their first 600 years.

[SYRIANKID]

Go look at who claimed responsibility for each of those attacks, is it your Joe Citizen or is it terrorist networks? Al Qaida is active in Algeria, Afghanistan, Iraq, and Pakistan. And ****lia is filled with pirates.

[BigBen85]

probably the most quality post on the atrocities commited in the name of that blight upon this earth that is Islam. Also In before islamic loving liberal "lets all hold hands and sing koom by ya" nut huggers come in with there bull**** "Hitler was a christian! because it says "God is with us" on the nazis belts!! See the christians are evil too!" ****.

eDIT: to late.

[SeizeTheWeight]

A christain country was the only country ever to drop a nuke on anyone.

Hitler was christian and stated in Mein Kampf he believed he was doing the lords work by exterminating the jews.

There ya go, to events that probably almost total everything you listed.

Also for ****s and grins lets look at another argument that can be made. Islam is about 600 years younger then christianity, go look how violent christains were during their first 600 years.

lol what is wrong with you people?
So because Christianity has killed a ridiculous amount of people, the daily murder commited by muslims NOW is excusable?
I understand that you're trying to turn it around and point the finger at what you assume is my faith, but it's pointless, I'm not a christian.
I have just as much of a problem with Christianity as I do with Islam, the difference being that those Christian atrocities are more than 60 years old, and these muslim atrocities are being commited daily, now. Which do you think is the more imminent problem?
Not to mention the fact that Hitler was mentally unstable (his mental state completely changed after being shellshocked after WW1), and a racist who used Christianity as a way to influence the mostly Christian German people to follow him and do his bidding.
The bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were, unfortunately, for the greater good. Utilitarianism FTW. Many lives were lost, but it played a massive role in ending the war that year, a war in which millions of lives were lost, and it's safe to say those bombs likely saved millions more lives than they destroyed.

Stop trying to move the topic to Christianity. Yes, it's a religion that has seen a lot of violence in it's history, if you want to go and start a thread about it, fine, I'll happily join you in discussion. This thread is about Islam, it's INHERANT violence and fundamentalism, and it's effect on peace in the 21st century.

[BigBen85]

A christain country was the only country ever to drop a nuke on anyone.

and you are saying Japan didnt deserve it? they started the war and US general estimated it would cost a million American lives to take mainland japan, sounds like the nuke was the better option to me.

was christian and stated in Mein Kampf he believed he was doing the lords work by exterminating the jews.

thats a lie that atheists like to spout off to make christianity look evil, everyone who has ever done any real research into Hitler knows that he was an atheist, its just a convenient way for atheists to cover up a good chunk of their own death toll.

Also for ****s and grins lets look at another argument that can be made. Islam is about 600 years younger then christianity, go look how violent christains were during their first 600 years.

christians would need to do some serious catching up to get anywhere near the number of deaths caused by islam.

[SeizeTheWeight]

Go look at who claimed responsibility for each of those attacks, is it your Joe Citizen or is it terrorist networks? Al Qaida is active in Algeria, Afghanistan, Iraq, and Pakistan. And ****lia is filled with pirates.

Did you read through them all? I'm going to assume you didn't, so please do.

You're avoiding the main issue here. It doesn't matter if it was Average Joe Ahmed or Al Quaida or Islamic Jihad or whoever. The fact is it wouldn't be happening if Islam did not exist (except for, as you said, ****lia, which is essentially run by war lords and is as close to anarchy as you will find in the 21st century, regardless of Islam).
The problem is the Quran, the problem is Islam itself, not the "minority" of extremists.
What is your reply to my claim (and the Quran's claim) that a true muslim is, in essence, a fundamentalist?
Don't you think that's a dangerous ideology to support? Aren't you afraid that more than 1billion muslims believe all of the quotations above to be acceptable? Not just acceptable, but the word of Allah?
Do you think it's acceptable that more than 1billion muslims worship a religion founded by a mass murdering, rapist paedophile? This isn't me making this up, this is all in the Quran/Hadith
Isn't a prophet, by defintion, "one who commits no sin"? So either murder, rape and sex with a 9 year old girl (when you're well into your 50s) isn't sin, or Mohammed wasn't a prophet?

[SYRIANKID]

christians would need to do some serious catching up to get anywhere near the number of deaths caused by islam.

That's not even true:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._by_death_toll

[SYRIANKID]

Did you read through them all? I'm going to assume you didn't, so please do.

You're avoiding the main issue here. It doesn't matter if it was Average Joe Ahmed or Al Quaida or Islamic Jihad or whoever. The fact is it wouldn't be happening if Islam did not exist (except for, as you said, ****lia, which is essentially run by war lords and is as close to anarchy as you will find in the 21st century, regardless of Islam).
The problem is the Quran, the problem is Islam itself, not the "minority" of extremists.
What is your reply to my claim (and the Quran's claim) that a true muslim is, in essence, a fundamentalist?
Don't you think that's a dangerous ideology to support? Aren't you afraid that more than 1billion muslims believe all of the quotations above to be acceptable? Not just acceptable, but the word of Allah?
Do you think it's acceptable that more than 1billion muslims worship a religion founded by a mass murdering, rapist paedophile? This isn't me making this up, this is all in the Quran/Hadith
Isn't a prophet, by defintion, "one who commits no sin"? So either murder, rape and sex with a 9 year old girl (when you're well into your 50s) isn't sin, or Mohammed wasn't a prophet?

I know everything you posted. Most of the verses are about disbelievers going to Hell, which is true. The rest are about verses dealing with war, which are also true but they don't apply to all circumstances nor are they general commands to war. And the Prophet (pbuh) never murdered anyone nor did he rape anyone, and we do believe it's fine for anyone who is past the age of puberty to get married even if they are young in age. And yes we do believe the Prophet (pbuh) was sinless.

So I hope that answers your questions.

[SeizeTheWeight]

christians would need to do some serious catching up to get anywhere near the number of deaths caused by islam.

PLEASE, let's try to stay away from comparisons in death toll between Islam and Cristianity.
If you want to start another thread about it, fine, but this thread is about Islam.
As it happens though, this statement is wrong. The christian death toll is higher throughout history, partially because, as has been stated, it's centuries older. The crusades play a huge roll in the christian death toll, as does the holocaust (The Nazi regime was strongly christian, although Hitler only claimed to be)

[Lion of Zion]

Why not do one on the difference between Roman Catholisim and the teachings of the Bible?

Then we will see what is the real threat to the world.

Because there are none, The Catholic Church is the Church that Christ established on this earth and the Church that God has sat as the head of since it's induction.

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[drew101]

I will do if there's a need for it.
Right now though, Roman Catholics aren't slaughtering people in vast numbers on a daily basis. Roman Catholics aren't raising children with the sole intention of turning them into killers so that they may be martyred. Roman Catholics don't take the Bible to be the word of God, word for word. The Bible was written by many different authors, none of whom claimed to be having a personal connection with God and dictating His word verbatim

I don't hate the people who are Roman Catholics, but I have a beef with Roman Catholism.

Dude, you really don't see the big picture AT ALL. But you will in a few years...

If you think the those extremists who call themselves Muslims are a pain now, well I can imagine how you will react when the Catholics start what they have been preparing for a very long while now...

Anyways, when I see so much people from the West and Europe who love to critisize those particular things of those countries, I know they don't say what they say in the right light. No way at all. It's like one set of demons critisizing another set of demons.
Because when you look at their solutions, among other things, they want the Islamic peoples to pick up and follow Western ideologies (which ain't Christian, and ain't good things at all.) Just look at how immoral people from the West and Europe are!
The point is, you can't want to remove **** to fill **** back in it's place.

[Lion of Zion]

If you think the those extremists who call themselves Muslims are a pain now, well I can imagine how you will react when the Catholics start what they have been preparing for a very long while now...

I guess I missed that meeting.

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[SeizeTheWeight]

I know everything you posted. Most of the verses are about disbelievers going to Hell, which is true. The rest are about verses dealing with war, which are also true but they don't apply to all circumstances nor are they general commands to war. And the Prophet (pbuh) never murdered anyone nor did he rape anyone, and we do believe it's fine for anyone who is past the age of puberty to get married even if they are young in age. And yes we do believe the Prophet (pbuh) was sinless.

So I hope that answers your questions.

Mohammed was RESPONSIBLE for hundreds/thousands of deaths, including the slaughtering of entire tribes, during his own lifetime. I can find the Suras if you'd really like me to, but I assume you're aware of this and are being pedantic, that it's never mentioned of Mohammed killing with his own hands, although he is known to have been in the presence of murder.

And yes, he did rape, multiple times. I'm having trouble finding the quotes, but one of them:
"I drove them along until I brought them to Abu Bakr who bestowed that girl upon me as a prize. So we arrived in Medina. I had not yet disrobed her when the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) met me in the street and said "Give me that girl." (Sahih Muslim 4345)(Book 019, Number 4345)"
Basically Mohammed demanded this newly won slave as his own. He obviously wasn't doing it to free her as rape is OK when it is the rape of women who were enslaved through battle.

There are more, I specifically remember 2 women being named, I'll keep looking, I don't have my Quran with me.

Basically, Mohammed was a sinful man, but every time he sinned, he came up with a new Sura with conditions that excused himself

[SeizeTheWeight]

[QUOTE=drew101;213153931]
Dude, you really don't see the big picture AT ALL. But you will in a few years...
[QUOTE]

The big picture of what? Islam or Catholicism? Instead of getting all self-righteous and patronising, why don't you explain it to us? Stop being so vague and explain what you're talking about. How do you know I don't see the big picture? lol

I don't want to replace **** with ****. How do you know what I want to replace it with? Stop with the stereotypical assumptions.
I just want Islam to be recognised for what it is
Now explain yourself, if you're actually able to.

[SeizeTheWeight]

And what are these "non-christian western ideologies" you mentioned?

[The_Big_E]

probably the most quality post on the atrocities commited in the name of that blight upon this earth that is Islam. Also In before islamic loving liberal "lets all hold hands and sing koom by ya" nut huggers come in with there bull**** "Hitler was a christian! because it says "God is with us" on the nazis belts!! See the christians are evil too!" ****.

eDIT: to late.

OOOOO let's start a Christian related thread titled...

"The Religion of Tolerance, Acceptance, Love AND Peace"


Finding and posting all the contradictions there would crash the forums!

[SYRIANKID]

Mohammed was RESPONSIBLE for hundreds/thousands of deaths, including the slaughtering of entire tribes, during his own lifetime. I can find the Suras if you'd really like me to, but I assume you're aware of this and are being pedantic, that it's never mentioned of Mohammed killing with his own hands, although he is known to have been in the presence of murder.

And yes, he did rape, multiple times. I'm having trouble finding the quotes, but one of them:
"I drove them along until I brought them to Abu Bakr who bestowed that girl upon me as a prize. So we arrived in Medina. I had not yet disrobed her when the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) met me in the street and said "Give me that girl." (Sahih Muslim 4345)(Book 019, Number 4345)"
Basically Mohammed demanded this newly won slave as his own. He obviously wasn't doing it to free her as rape is OK when it is the rape of women who were enslaved through battle.

There are more, I specifically remember 2 women being named, I'll keep looking, I don't have my Quran with me.

Basically, Mohammed was a sinful man, but every time he sinned, he came up with a new Sura with conditions that excused himself

Sorry but you're totally off. The Prophet (pbuh) never murdered anyone nor caused the murder of anyone. Pagans who declared war on Muslims are obviously going to be fought against and defeated. That's not called murder that's called justified killing. Look to the Bible to find plenty of examples of the Children of Israel being commanded by God to fight and defend themselves against all the tribes and invaders they faced. Same exact deal.

As for rape, it also never occurred nor is it even permissible in Islam. Of course Muslims have the concept of slaves of war just as it is found in the Bible, but even then you cannot rape anyone.

Slaves of war in the Bible:

http://www.utoronto.ca/wjudaism/jour...1/v1n1elma.htm

[SeizeTheWeight]

Sorry but you're totally off. The Prophet (pbuh) never murdered anyone nor caused the murder of anyone. Pagans who declared war on Muslims are obviously going to be fought against and defeated. That's not called murder that's called justified killing. Look to the Bible to find plenty of examples of the Children of Israel being commanded by God to fight and defend themselves against all the tribes and invaders they faced. Same exact deal.

As for rape, it also never occurred nor is it even permissible in Islam. Of course Muslims have the concept of slaves of war just as it is found in the Bible, but even then you cannot rape anyone.

Slaves of war in the Bible:

http://www.utoronto.ca/wjudaism/jour...1/v1n1elma.htm

OK, I'll humour you for a moment and let's say that rape isn't allowed of slaves, although it is and I'll post those passages in a minute. How would you interpret the above passage then? The woman is about to be raped and Mohammed stops it, what, out of the kindness of his heart?
Mohammed was the aggressor on many occasions, I'll find the passages in due course

*EDIT* AND PLEASE STOP BRINGING CHRISTIANITY INTO THIS. JUST BECAUSE CHRISTIANS DO SOMETHING BAD DOES NOT EXCUSE EVERYBODY ELSE.

[SYRIANKID]

OK, I'll humour you for a moment and let's say that rape isn't allowed of slaves, although it is and I'll post those passages in a minute. How would you interpret the above passage then? The woman is about to be raped and Mohammed stops it, what, out of the kindness of his heart?
Mohammed was the aggressor on many occasions, I'll find the passages in due course

I don't see what needs to be interpretted. You can't even force your wife to sleep with you, let alone a slave of war. If only you studied the Bible as hard as you do Islamic texts, then maybe you would realize that you are only making yourself look bad.

There is no need to make any excuses or apologies here. Nothing you find in an authentic Islamic source is a shame to Muslims. We believe and advocate it all, the only issue is how people like you try to distort it.

[Lion of Zion]

OOOOO let's start a Christian related thread titled...

"The Religion of Tolerance, Acceptance, Love AND Peace"


Finding and posting all the contradictions there would crash the forums!

Are we to judge by principle and theology, or the acts of individuals supposedly in their name?

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[SeizeTheWeight]

Rape:

"And forbidden to you are wedded wives of other people except those who have fallen in your hands (as prisoners of war) . . . (Maududi, vol. 1, p. 319). (See also Suras 4:3 and 33:50)"

I think it's fair to assume if you acquire a slave-girl through war, any sex with her could not be considered consensual


"The Quran in Sura 23:5-6 says:

5 [Most certainly true believers] . . . guard their private parts scrupulously, 6 except with regard to their wives and those who are legally in their possession, for in that case they shall not be blameworthy. (Sayyid Abul A’La Maududi, The Meaning of the Quran, vol. 3, p. 237)

The key words are "those who are legally in their possession." Maududi (d. 1979) is a highly respected commentator on the Quran, and he interprets the plain meaning of the clause, saying that sex with slave-girls is lawful.

Maududi writes:

Two categories of women have been excluded from the general command of guarding the private parts: (a) wives, (b) women who are legally in one’s possession, i.e. slave-girls. Thus the verse clearly lays down the law that one is allowed to have sexual relation with one’s slave-girl as with one’s wife, the basis being possession and not marriage. If marriage had been the condition, the slave-girl also would have been included among the wives, and there was no need to mention them separately. (Ibid. p. 241, note 7)"

[SeizeTheWeight]

I don't see what needs to be interpretted. You can't even force your wife to sleep with you, let alone a slave of war. If only you studied the Bible as hard as you do Islamic texts, then maybe you would realize that you are only making yourself look bad.

There is no need to make any excuses or apologies here. Nothing you find in an authentic Islamic source is a shame to Muslims. We believe and advocate it all, the only issue is how people like you try to distort it.

How am I making myself look bad?
You sir, are assuming that I am a christian which I'm not. I have studied the Bible, and I find the Bible's teaching hideous aswell (mostly the old testament of course). However, this is a thread about Islam. I wanted the focus to stay on Islam and not on Christianity.

What do you mean you don't see that it needs interpretation? Firstly, what do you think the passage means if not rape?
Secondly, I've just posted a couple of examples that show that sex with your battle-aqcuired slave girls is permitted, and that's rape.

I know Islam permits this, and this is part of the reason of find it despicable.
I've just shown that Mohammed raped a girl (1 so far, I'm looking for the other passages), and he created Suras to allow the rape of slavegirls. There are more, I shall find and post them. One of them mention "that you possess with your right hand" that I remember specifically, I'll find it shortly.

I'm not trying to distort anything. If anything is taken out of context, please try and point it out and I'll find another example, there are plenty

[The_Big_E]

Are we to judge by principle and theology, or the acts of individuals supposedly in their name?

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Well... it appears "the acts of individuals supposedly in their name"...

Stack up the actions in the name of Christianiy against those in the name of Islam and you have a fairly even, if not Christian heavy, list YET everybody is all over Islam because a few whackjobs chose it as their religion to hide behind!