Prefatiguing shoulders for tricep dips?

[BurgerPimp07]

Since I use dips as a tricep exercise would prefatiguing your shoulders work better to isolate your triceps?

It only makes sense because the shoulders/upper back are the bigger muscle and would give out sooner than triceps while doing dips.

Am I rite?

[DJAuto]

Since I use dips as a tricep exercise would prefatiguing your shoulders work better to isolate your triceps?

It only makes sense because the shoulders/upper back are the bigger muscle and would give out sooner than triceps while doing dips.

Am I rite?

Well, normally your triceps would fatigue first.

Second, if your shoulders were comparably weak and fatigued first, pre-exhausting them would serve no purpose.

[the-craig]

You need to pre-exhaust your triceps first. I dont think you need to be doing that anyway. If anything you should be putting most of your effort into this exercise. It's like squats for triceps, big main exercise want alot of energy for.

[dom996]

If your shoulders give first it means that they are the weakest element in that movement.

So, either change the exercise, pre-fatigue your triceps, and/or strengthen your shoulders more.

[Dominik]

Since I use dips as a tricep exercise would prefatiguing your shoulders work better to isolate your triceps?

It only makes sense because the shoulders/upper back are the bigger muscle and would give out sooner than triceps while doing dips.

Am I rite?

Bad idea IMO. The shoulders play a key role in stabilizing you on the movement and if your shoulders are fatigued you'll be forced to dip a lot less weight.

My advice would be to make the exercise as strict as possible for triceps: elbows tucked + body vertical. And if you want to exhaust the triceps, think "post-exhaust" rather than "pre-exhaust" and hit them with isos like overhead extensions and pushdowns after your sets of dips.

You might also want to incorporate close-grip bench press into your training if you're not satisfied with the results you're getting from dips.

[BurgerPimp07]

Well, normally your triceps would fatigue first.

Second, if your shoulders were comparably weak and fatigued first, pre-exhausting them would serve no purpose.

Ugh, huge typo, I meant to say that shoulders are the bigger muscle so they would fatigue after tri's.

Bad idea IMO. The shoulders play a key role in stabilizing you on the movement and if your shoulders are fatigued you'll be forced to dip a lot less weight.

My advice would be to make the exercise as strict as possible for triceps: elbows tucked + body vertical. And if you want to exhaust the triceps, think "post-exhaust" rather than "pre-exhaust" and hit them with isos like overhead extensions and pushdowns after your sets of dips.

You might also want to incorporate close-grip bench press into your training if you're not satisfied with the results you're getting from dips.

I've tried it and I have to say, I did a LOT less weight and had trouble keeping my body steady/a lot of shaking.

Thanks for your replies.

[The_Animal11]

Ugh, huge typo, I meant to say that shoulders are the bigger muscle so they would fatigue after tri's.



I've tried it and I have to say, I did a LOT less weight and had trouble keeping my body steady/a lot of shaking.

Thanks for your replies.

lol thats what makes it hard and effective! performing a movement with strict form often makes it harder. pre-fatiguing the weaker muscle is just gunna make the weaker muscle even weaker for the movement in question though.

i would just suggest working shoulders to bring them up to par with your tris and chest strength and endurane-wise