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Problems with NO-Xplode ????
Hey Everyone,
I have some quick questions about some gnarly side effects ive been getting. I have a 3 day work out plan that im currently changing to a 4 day plan (starting this week). The only supplements i take are:
1 Scoop GNC Whey Iso Burst
1.5 scoops NO-Xplode (pre workout)
1 scoop CellMass (post workout)
ive been take the whey since about october, and NO-Xplode and Cellmass since mid december. Just last week i woke up in the middle of the night and my heart was quite literally RACING, and i could feel it all throughout my body. It was also accompanied by a feeling of anxiety.
Now normally i would blame it on NO-Xplode, but it was also accompanied by pains somewhere in my lower stomach area when i had to goto the washroom. Almost as if there were digestive problems as well, so i didnt think that had anything to do with it. I took a week off the supplements and continued my workout routine and all the symptoms seem to of disappeared.
Any ideas?? is it most likely NO-Xplode? or just a wacky coincidence most likely?
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thats really weird . ive taken it before and that hasnt happened to me. u might want to ask your doctor . better to be safe than sorry.
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yeah i suppose that is true, its too bad i noticed major gains with it, i guess ill start up cellmass and see what happens i see no reason why creatine would do anything to my heart, so i'll start that up and maybe go see the doctor about NO-Xplode.
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I've had weird **** happen to me with creatine where it makes my legs throb in the night. Also when i take no-xplode, I get extreme heart pains from the pump working my heart a lot. I'm stopping no-xplode when i finish this bottle.
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are you taking any other stimulants? like a pre-workout drink? No explode is only supp. w/creatine that hasnt upset my stomach. but most creatines do that might be a problem.
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I had the same thing happen to me. Woke up in the middle of the night and felt very anxious. I drink strong coffee a couple cups a day so I didn't attribute this to the caffiene. Happened to me two days in a row and I stopped taking it.
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I had been taking NO-EXPLODE for two years without problems. Then earlier this year i developed Gastritis.
Unsure if it was NO-EXPLODE or Animal Cuts or CKD that caused the Gastritis. But, now i cant take NO-EXPLODE without the gastritis flaring up.
Too bad, it was the greatest product i had tried since the original hydroxycuts back in 1996!
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Originally Posted by Tyler09
Also when i take no-xplode, I get extreme heart pains.
Are you sure its not indigestion?
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mattyd, im guessing you might be allergic to some compound in it or, you might be taking it to close to when you go to sleep... about how long do you take the no xplode before you go to bed?
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I can't find it right now... But a couple months back I read a review from a guy on NO-Xplode and everytime he took it, he had to go to the ER with chest pains, pounding heart beat, and trouble breathing.
Anyways, long story short.. NO-Xplode was giving him severe panic attacks. Have you looked into that possibility?
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Originally Posted by Heartless
mattyd, im guessing you might be allergic to some compound in it or, you might be taking it to close to when you go to sleep... about how long do you take the no xplode before you go to bed?
Taking it late at night would be one of my guesses.. When I workout at 7pm with No-xplode my heart races and sometimes I sweat at night.
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bad nightmare dont worry about it
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Could be the Arginine. I was told that's why its upsetting my stomache. I figure its a combination of that and the caffiene. Super Pump 250 gives me the same discomfort.
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One of my teachers theory is that while Nitric Oxide is a great idea, it has bad side effects. He claims that it would be perfect to inject it into the muscle your using that day but since your drinking it your whole body is pumped with it. Since your WHOLE body is pumped, it makes the heart have to pump alot harder thus giving your heart scar tissue. Is this theory any way possible?
Btw i took NO Explode for 2 months and i loved every workout with it. But I doubt that this product is completely safe
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i was jk about the nightmare
i took noxplode for a while and thankfully only reveived great results from it
i think what other people were saying about it is true about taking it before you go to bed
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Who's theory is this?! Sounds a bit far out to me. Scar tissue? I doubt it. I use arginine as a supplement for some patients in my job to facilitate wound healing. These are people with multiple medical conditions and I have never seen anything like you're describing.
Originally Posted by M1tch
One of my teachers theory is that while Nitric Oxide is a great idea, it has bad side effects. He claims that it would be perfect to inject it into the muscle your using that day but since your drinking it your whole body is pumped with it. Since your WHOLE body is pumped, it makes the heart have to pump alot harder thus giving your heart scar tissue. Is this theory any way possible?
Btw i took NO Explode for 2 months and i loved every workout with it. But I doubt that this product is completely safe
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well, that's not strictly true, scar tissue results from a lack of blood supply to the heart, causing tissue to die. Dead tissue then gets converted into scar e.g after a heart attack. That's unlikely to be occuring in this case. HOWEVER, NO-Xplode is an extremely dangerous supplement!! You should all stop taking it seriously, its not safe. Like that guy was saying, the NO has a body wide effect. So, its not just dilating your veins in your arms/ from your muscles, but also in critical areas such as your brain. Thats likely why so many people experience jitters/dizziness/headaches etc from taking the product. Over the long term it can cause permanent damage to your central nervous system. so please, STOP TAKING IT. I mean, if you're happy to risk ****ing up your brain and risking your life, just to get pumped each day, then keep going. Otherwise, find something safer!! Im a doctor btw so im not making this up. I took the stuff for a month about a year ago, when I didnt fully know the risks. Stuck to the recommended doses and everything, but I still have tremors from it now!!! stop taking it!
Last edited by rambler86; 01-17-2007 at 02:40 PM.
Reason: left something out
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I just reviewed a ton of literature on l-arginine and didn't find anything about that.
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Idk what it was man. I doubt indigestion. It would throb and have sharp pains in my heart. Like blood flow increasing too fast or something. It scared me because my grandfather has heart problems.
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Originally Posted by Mattyd32
yeah i suppose that is true, its too bad i noticed major gains with it, i guess ill start up cellmass and see what happens i see no reason why creatine would do anything to my heart, so i'll start that up and maybe go see the doctor about NO-Xplode.
I'd recommend attempting to lower your scoop size(down to 1 scoop). Also, taking N.O within 5 hours of bed(while it is still in your system), and then falling asleep, may have that affect. This is my logic: While awake and conscious, our metabolism is more regulated and is slightly faster. While sleeping, (knowing that the aim of sleep is to let our organs recover), The speed at which our heart beats would be slowed. So the affects of NO would be greater emphasised. However, I strongely believe that the L-Arginine is simply a gimic, so if the NO WAS the problem, your body was reacting to the energy booster matrix.
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Originally Posted by M1tch
One of my teachers theory is that while Nitric Oxide is a great idea, it has bad side effects. He claims that it would be perfect to inject it into the muscle your using that day but since your drinking it your whole body is pumped with it. Since your WHOLE body is pumped, it makes the heart have to pump alot harder thus giving your heart scar tissue. Is this theory any way possible?
Btw i took NO Explode for 2 months and i loved every workout with it. But I doubt that this product is completely safe
At least 2 of the ingredience in NO-Xplode are AAKG and caffeine. Both of these have an effect on your blood vessels which are opposed to one another. AAKG is a vasodilator and caffeine is a vasoconstrictor. I don't know if they balance eachother out or one overrides the other, but with vasoconstiction the heart has to pump harder to get the blood where it needs to go e.g. high blood pressure, vasodilation allows for lower blood pressure and less strain on the heart.
Now caffiene has it benifits, but if anything in no explode is causing a person problems it is the caffiene and any other stimulant in there. To much AAKG can cause other problems, stomach discomfort and loose stool, but other then that....
One thing to note, I typed in vasoconstictor in a yahoo search and came up with this link...draw your own conclutions...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasoconstrictor
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Okay, this is caused by the caffine. Caffine will give you all of these side effects. Ive suffered with anxiety and painc attacks my whole life and caffine being a stimulant will trigger these. I take 2 scoops and feel a huge rush and get the shakes but Im fine. Caffine is bad and if taken throughout the day and then when you take the No-xplode youre increasing the total intake of the caffine in your system. I drink water and milk all day and eat clean organic foods only so the little bit of caffine dosnt bother me. Now before I drank around 5 sodas a day along with sugar and a bad diet I was always having anxiety and stomach problems thats the main reason I stoped. Caffine is a legal drug, period, it has a big atvantage when used to lift because it helps you focus and gives you this rush and the less caffine you consume through the day the less I think this will effect you. You can also try adding more water to it to dilute what youre drinking. Its alot of sugar and is strong if you only put about 12oz. I could see that upsetting your stomach. I drink it with room temp water 24oz. No problems. GOOD LUCK!
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Originally Posted by rambler86
Im a doctor btw so im not making this up.
sorry to hi-jack the thread, but how did you become a doctor at 20 years old? i'm 19 and in my second semester of pre-med, and i would LOVE to know your secret.
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Originally Posted by Tyler09
I've had weird **** happen to me with creatine where it makes my legs throb in the night. Also when i take no-xplode, I get extreme heart pains from the pump working my heart a lot. I'm stopping no-xplode when i finish this bottle.
you're 16 and you're blaming NO-Xplode... i'd say work on your brain muscle first.
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Awesome thanks for all the input guys.
I had taken it kinda close to bed i think if i remember correctly, tried to goto bed at 11 and took it at like 7 probably. the thing is i didnt take it the next day at all and had it the next night as well.
I have a feeling its anxiety attacks, i felt short of breath, my heart was racing and every part of my body throbbed with my heart beat it seemed. But doing some like meditation kind of breathing and mind clearing **** cleared it all up it seemed.... but as soon as id lie down and try to fall asleep my mind would seem to wander back to it and up it would start again. The only thing is i have never had anxiety attacks before that i can remember so somethings getting my brain all riled up.
I just started Cellmass up again a couple days ago, we'll see how that goes, i know creatine should have nothing to do with my heart... but the digestive stuff we'll see about that.
I guess ill just have to do some trial and error and see if it happens again. One thing ill start doing tho is only taking N.O. Xplode when i workout in the afternoons as opposed to my usual evening workouts.
Aside from the side effects though these two supplements have been workin great on my bod!
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Hey guys--new here. I am just starting Noxplode after starting with a Vitamin Shoppe ripoff. One problem with the side effects may be the amount consumed--I saw someone was taking 7 scoops? I beleive each scoop has approx 100 mg caffeine, so that would be 700 mg! Maybe since caffeine has a half life of eight hours you are still getting effects later in the day (or at night). I think Ronnie Coleman only takes about 3 1/2 scoops prior to workout. I know this stuff really get me going. If I take too much, I get the runs--from all the arginine prbably. Oh, BTW, I am on anti-axiety/antidepressants. I think you just have to keep caffeine lower if you are predisposed for these conditions.
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Nevermind the "how did you get to be a doctor at 20?" - my question is: Why do you type in partial sentances and run-on thoughts? Never mind.... Arginine (eventually PARTIALLY converted into nitric oxide) does not cause your heart to pump any harder. It dilates your blood vessels so that your heart does NOT HAVE TO pump as hard. For this reason, it is sometimes prescribed by physicians to manage high-stress or people with a higher potential to suffer from a cerebrovascular accident (CVA/stroke.) Anyhow, I think there was one guy who DID die of arginine-OD... but he took upwards of 100 GRAMS in a single day. I don't know the story behind the incident, nor do I know WHY he was even taking it in the first place.
There is nothing in NO-Explode that is harmful. I've cycled on and off of the product myself. At one point, I had the same stack going - Pro Performance protein, NO-Ex, Cell Mass. No problems. HOWEVER, if you ARE experiencing "issues" - it's not impossible that there is something about it that your body doesn't like. (For example, some people react to potassium. That doesn't mean that because one individual has side effects from eating bananas - everyone should avoid eating bananas!!) Just be careful and listen to your body!! If you're having problems, don't be stubborn. Don't finish the bottle just cause you bought it!
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I very much agree with ya living end. Everyones different, and if there was anything REALLY bad with it they wouldnt sell it in stores. Im just gonna do some trial and error and see what happens, i can deal with anxiety , but if its literally effin up my body then its time to do something about it. I'll go through another cycle and see if it happens again, if it does ill head to the doctor.
Have cellmass back in action taking about 5 times a week (just post workouts), and have been doing it for 2 weeks, nothing really noticable in the way of side effects yet.
I'll keep you guys posted, cause as i can see im not the only person who gets this, when i talk to my doctor ill post what i find out.
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