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Old 08-22-2008, 10:27 PM   #1
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Disprove this, please.

http://timberlinechurch.org/ watch Foth on the homepage there. This man is from DC and lead many of our politicians during their years. I'd like to see someone who has watched the whole thing disprove anything he says.

This thread will only be relevant until Aug 24th when the next sermon is up.
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Old 08-22-2008, 10:35 PM   #2
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http://timberlinechurch.org/ watch Foth on the homepage there. This man is from DC and lead many of our politicians during their years. I'd like to see someone who has watched the whole thing disprove anything he says.

This thread will only be relevant until Aug 24th when the next sermon is up.
Claim: Fort Collins, CO gets 15 inches of rain per year.

FACT: Fort Collins, CO gets 14.47 inches of rain per year.

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Fort Collins Weather Facts

* On average, the warmest month is July.
* January is the average coolest month.
* The most precipitation on average occurs in March
* The average annual precipitation is 14.47", most of which falls in the growing season.
* Seasonal snowfall averages about 51" but persistent snowcover is unusual.
* March is typically the snowiest month.
* Fort Collins is situated at an elevation of 5,004 feet above sea level.
* The foothills west of the city ranging in nearly 6,000 feet above sea level.
Sources: www.weather.com
http://www.fcchamber.org/Sub_Weather.asp

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Old 08-22-2008, 10:36 PM   #3
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Claim: Fort Collins, CO gets 15 inches of rain per year.

FACT: Fort Collins, CO gets 14.47 inches of rain per year.



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Old 08-23-2008, 12:00 AM   #4
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I watched the first 10 mintues and iit made me remember a point. The Pastor (priest?) talking quoted:
"If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also"

It reminded me of this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turn_the_other_cheek

A figurative interpretation relies on historical and other factors.[1] At the time of Jesus, striking someone deemed to be of a lower class with the back of the hand was used to assert authority and dominance.[2] If the persecuted person "turned the other cheek," the discipliner was faced with a dilemma. The left hand was used for unclean purposes, so a back-hand strike on the opposite cheek would not be performed.[3] The other alternative would be a slap with the open hand as a challenge or to punch the person, but this was seen as a statement of equality. Thus, by turning the other cheek the persecuted was in effect demanding equality. By handing over one's cloak in addition to one's tunic, the debtor has essentially given the shirt off their back, a situation directly forbidden by Jewish Law as stated in Deuteronomy 24: 10-13:

When you make your neighbor a loan of any sort, you shall not enter his house to take his pledge. You shall remain outside, and the man to whom you make the loan shall bring the pledge out to you. If he is a poor man, you shall not sleep with his pledge. When the sun goes down you shall surely return the pledge to him, that he may sleep in his cloak and bless you; and it will be righteousness for you before the LORD your God.

By giving the lender the cloak as well the debtor was reduced to nakedness. Public nudity was viewed as bringing shame on the viewer, not the naked, as evidenced in Genesis 9: 20-27:

Noah was the first tiller of the soil. He planted a vineyard; and he drank of the wine, and became drunk, and lay uncovered in his tent. And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brothers outside. Then Shem and Japheth took a garment, laid it upon both their shoulders, and walked backward and covered the nakedness of their father; their faces were turned away, and they did not see their father's nakedness.

The succeeding verse from the Sermon on the Mount can similarly be seen as a method for making the oppressor break the law. The commonly invoked Roman law of Angaria allowed the Roman authorities to demand that inhabitants of occupied territories carry messages and equipment the distance of one mile post, but prohibited forcing an individual to go further than a single mile, at the risk of suffering disciplinary actions.[4] In this example, the nonviolent interpretation sees Jesus as placing criticism on an unjust and hated Roman law as well as clarifying the teaching to extend beyond Jewish law.[5] As a side effect this may also have afforded the early followers a longer time to missionary to the soldier and or cause the soldier not to seek followers of Jesus to carry his equipment in the future so as not to be bothered with their proselitizing.





To be clear. I'm not trying to take one to the thiests here...I just find the other interpretation to be interesting. Nothing else...I think the conventional interpretation is something people should take to heart.
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Old 08-23-2008, 12:02 AM   #5
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I liked what he said about not controlling circumstance, but about contolling yourself.
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http://timberlinechurch.org/ watch Foth on the homepage there. This man is from DC and lead many of our politicians during their years. I'd like to see someone who has watched the whole thing disprove anything he says.

This thread will only be relevant until Aug 24th when the next sermon is up.

"Foth"? I don't see it.
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I have yet to see what it is im suppose to dissprove
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http://timberlinechurch.org/ watch Foth on the homepage there. This man is from DC and lead many of our politicians during their years. I'd like to see someone who has watched the whole thing disprove anything he says.

This thread will only be relevant until Aug 24th when the next sermon is up.

Is that your church?
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Yep.

I will answer the other statement tomorrow. I gotta sleep now.
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