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    Can't put on muscle mass ?

    Hi All,

    I've been doing the anthony ellis program for over 3 months now, but I don't seem to have put much weight on. I put on a few pounds on fat when I first started probably due to my body not being used to the extra calories and I've toned up but haven't really any bulk on. I lift weights 3x a week and it's broken down into chest,shoulders,triceps on one session, legs on the second session and back and bicep on the 3rd session. All the exercises are 4 sets and a burnout set.

    I've have been eating 6 meals a day, usually a protein shake and banana/nuts or oats for the 1st, chicken sandwich for the 2nd, protein shake and banana/nuts for the 3rd, lean beef, vegatables and rice for the 4th, fish, toast and fruit for the 5th and a tub of cottage cheese just before bed.

    How much rest should I get ? I find it difficult to get more than 8 hours sleep and my schedule doesn't really permit than the weekend's.

    Has anyone any ideas ?

    Thanks
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    Instead of doing 4 sets then a burnout set, try doing 2 sets, with the second set aiming to fail at around 7 or 8 reps. This could trigger your muscles to grow faster. Also, are you getting protein intake straight after exercising?
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    Could you post the exact workout?

    I'm a little confused about some of the things you've said. You say you've put on some fat and also toned up, this would indicate that you have put on a pretty good amount of LBM in a three month period. Do you know what your body composition figues are?

    Your nutrition looks in reasonable order, three serves of meat, two protein shakes and some milk and cottage cheese is a good amount of protein.
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    get carbs in post workout in the changing room or as soon as pos after your workout
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    The workout is like below;

    Session 1 - all the sets are 4 sets of 6-8 reps for the 1st, 4-6 for the 2nd, 2-4 for the 3rd and 1-2 for the 4th.

    Flat bench press
    Shoulder press
    Shrugs
    Dips

    Session 2

    Squats
    Deadlifts
    Calve Raises

    Session 3

    Wide Grip Pullups
    One-Arm Rows
    Standing Dumbell Rows

    I've toned up my arms, chest, legs, etc but without really adding any mass to it, which was the whole point of me starting this.
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    I take a post workout protein shake which has carbs in it, pretty much as soon as I get home. And I live about 100 metres from the gym, so it's pretty quick.
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    Originally Posted by terry_s7 View Post
    I've toned up my arms, chest, legs, etc but without really adding any mass to it, which was the whole point of me starting this.
    this is a sure sign that you arent eating enough to make decent gains. if you "toned up" you likely have lost some fat and built some muscle.

    How much weight have you gained over the entire 3 months?
    "Leave the pump in the bedroom and add some damn weight to the bar" - Dave Tate

    "Train for strength, eat to grow and you will get bigger and stronger" - Someone bigger and stronger then me
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    I've pretty much added roughly an inch of size everywhere, so an inch to my chest, arms, etc and an inch of fat around my waist.
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    Originally Posted by terry_s7 View Post
    The workout is like below;

    Session 1 - all the sets are 4 sets of 6-8 reps for the 1st, 4-6 for the 2nd, 2-4 for the 3rd and 1-2 for the 4th.

    Flat bench press
    Shoulder press
    Shrugs
    Dips

    Session 2

    Squats
    Deadlifts
    Calve Raises

    Session 3

    Wide Grip Pullups
    One-Arm Rows
    Standing Dumbell Rows

    I've toned up my arms, chest, legs, etc but without really adding any mass to it, which was the whole point of me starting this.
    You have to increase your training volume in order to grow. I don't think you are training hard enough. Large muscle groups 15 - 20 working sets. Small muscle groups 8 - 12 working sets.

    Increase volume and density - you shall see results!!!
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    I always thought it was low reps and high weight for building mass and vice versa for toning ? Just for example do you mean I should do 15-20 reps for 4 sets on squats or deadlifts ?
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    Originally Posted by terry_s7 View Post
    I've pretty much added roughly an inch of size everywhere, so an inch to my chest, arms, etc and an inch of fat around my waist.
    For three months, I think this is great progress.
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    An inch of size, not straight after a workout, seems very good progress, and many would be happy.
    The inch to the stomach can be lost when you think your body needs cutting.
    (Can't just lose it at stomach, but can lose BF% all over)
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    hmm, ok, I guess maybe I had unrealistic expectations for this, I just expected to put more on in 3-4 months.
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    Originally Posted by terry_s7 View Post
    hmm, ok, I guess maybe I had unrealistic expectations for this, I just expected to put more on in 3-4 months.
    if it was that easy everyone would look good...
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