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    Can cops search things in your car that are locked?

    I believe I read somewhere that cops cannot search locked items in your car such as a safe or locked dash board without a warrant. Is this true? I live in wisconsin if that makes any difference. Thanks and of course reps.
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uV0g5B1blqk

    Found this interesting.

    Don't know how much fact it is. I live in Canada anyways so who knows what the **** is going on.
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    They can't search a locked car unless there is a contraband item in their "plain sight view" rule.

    Then they can search your car or something like that.
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    They would have to have your permission or ofcourse the infamous search warrent. Unless they have probably cause ie you have a kilo of coke in your back seat then the first two dont apply.
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    Well my glove compartment is locked, so is the trunk in the back. And I know my rights, so you gon' need a warrant for that

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    "Well my glove compartment is locked so is the trunk and the back
    And I know my rights so you gon' need a warrent for that
    "Aren't you sharp as a tack are some type of lawyer
    Or somebody important or something?"
    Nah I ain't pass the bar but I know a little bit
    Enough that you won't illegally search my ****"

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    it's "you some type of lawyer"
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    Originally Posted by Steak_n_Taters View Post
    it's "you some type of lawyer"
    Copied and pasted from a webpage, didnt even read it.
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    Originally Posted by BrentA-AUS View Post
    Well my glove compartment is locked, so is the trunk in the back. And I know my rights, so you gon' need a warrant for that

    "Aren't you sharp as a tack! You should try out for lawyer or somethin, somebody important or somethin"

    Child I ain't passed the bar, but I know a little bit. Enough that you won't illegally search my ****
    lol beat me to it
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    all they need is probable cause

    probable cause can be the driver's nervousness, or even his refusal to allow a search
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    I love the COPs episode where they ask the guy if they can search the car. Then tell him if he says no they will bring in the dog and if the dog tags on the car they can then search it anyway. So he tells them okay, and they search the car and find marijuana. When he was later asked why he allowed the search, he said because he didn't want them to think he was hiding something.

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    thanks for the replies but i still am a little hazy on the subject. So if i had a little safe in my trunk and it is locked, and the cops say my car smells like bud and say they have probable cause to search my vehicle can they or cant they force me to open the safe. would they need a warrant to do that or not.
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    Originally Posted by djporter123 View Post
    thanks for the replies but i still am a little hazy on the subject. So if i had a little safe in my trunk and it is locked, and the cops say my car smells like bud and say they have probable cause to search my vehicle can they or cant they force me to open the safe. would they need a warrant to do that or not.
    they do not need a warrant with probable cause
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    Originally Posted by Slated View Post
    all they need is probable cause

    probable cause can be the driver's nervousness, or even his refusal to allow a search
    Bingo.
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    Originally Posted by djporter123 View Post
    thanks for the replies but i still am a little hazy on the subject. So if i had a little safe in my trunk and it is locked, and the cops say my car smells like bud and say they have probable cause to search my vehicle can they or cant they force me to open the safe. would they need a warrant to do that or not.
    If you're too ignorant to know the laws on the subject, dont drive around with bud in your car...
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    Originally Posted by Slated View Post
    they do not need a warrant with probable cause
    they need a warrant for locked things/trunk

    what you said earlier is wrong too

    lol at "refusing search" being a probable cause. no cop could get away with that in court
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    Originally Posted by Slated View Post
    they do not need a warrant with probable cause
    what if you say that you do not know the combination and cannot open it
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    Originally Posted by KRANE View Post
    I love the COPs episode where they ask the guy if they can search the car. Then tell him if he says no they will bring in the dog and if the dog tags on the car they can then search it anyway. So he tells them okay, and they search the car and find marijuana. When he was later asked why he allowed the search, he said because he didn't want them to think he was hiding something.

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    Originally Posted by djporter123 View Post
    what if you say that you do not know the combination and cannot open it
    doesn't matter brah. if they actually have probable cause to search your car just say "sorry you'll need a warrant to open that"
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    Originally Posted by Slated View Post
    all they need is probable cause

    probable cause can be the driver's nervousness, or even his refusal to allow a search
    Not true. Even though I know cops will search and call stuff like that probable cause, it wouldn't hold up if challenged in court.

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    Originally Posted by Smooth23 View Post
    Not true. Even though I know cops will search and call stuff like that probable cause, it wouldn't hold up if challenged in court.
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    Originally Posted by djporter123 View Post
    thanks for the replies but i still am a little hazy on the subject. So if i had a little safe in my trunk and it is locked, and the cops say my car smells like bud and say they have probable cause to search my vehicle can they or cant they force me to open the safe. would they need a warrant to do that or not.
    If they have prabable cause they don't need your permission to search your vehicle and any of it's contents. As for your safe, I already answered that.
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    Originally Posted by Slated View Post
    all they need is probable cause

    probable cause can be his refusal to allow a search

    God, are you dumb. I give your reply 10 Slateds.
    Probable cause can NOT be based on somebody's refusal to allow a search -THUS THE NEED FOR PROBABLE CAUSE.

    Jeez, I don't know how it is possible you aren't in the red with your lying, nonsense posts.

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    Originally Posted by KRANE View Post
    If they have prabable cause they don't need your permission to search your vehicle and any of it's contents. As for your safe, I already answered that.
    and what determines probable cause? you look one shade too dark? you king pin?
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    Originally Posted by Smooth23 View Post
    Not true. Even though I know cops will search and call stuff like that probable cause, it wouldn't hold up if challenged in court.

    ETA: I love you slated(no homo), Please don't neg, after all.. I kinda sorta agree.. right?
    yes it will. I took a criminal justice class where I researched case after case regarding stuff like this. I've actually never come across a case where it didn't stand up, from nervousness to "general sweating," to all sorts of obvious bs.


    4th amendment means **** in this age. Politicians are labeled as soft on crime and anti police if they dare stand in favor of the Constitution and elect judges who are fans of it, as well.


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    Originally Posted by Slated View Post
    spend a day being a court observer


    it happens every single day
    Holding up in court has little to do with it being legal or not. In most case, they don't challeng it which is why a lot of these things go through.
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    Originally Posted by dickhordishay View Post
    God, are you dumb. I give your reply 10 Slateds.
    Probable cause can NOT be based on somebody's refusal to allow a search -THUS THE NEED FOR PROBABLE CAUSE.

    Jeez, I don't know how it is possible you aren't in the red with your lying, nonsense posts.

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    Originally Posted by booopooo View Post
    yes it will. I took a criminal justice class where I researched case after case regarding stuff like this. I've actually never come across a case where it didn't stand up, from nervousness to "general sweating," to all sorts of obvious bs.


    4th amendment means **** in this age. Politicians are labeled as soft on crime and anti police if they dare stand in favor of the Constitution and elect judges who are fans of it, as well.


    If you have drugs in your car and the cop suspects it, game over no matter what you say, and what you have locked. You're fcked, short a technicality and a clever lawyer
    Dick,

    you really need to stop trolling me, because I make you look like an ass every time.

    I am so much more intellegent than you...... cry?
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    Originally Posted by R072286 View Post
    and what determines probable cause? you look one shade too dark? you king pin?
    You're preaching to the choir son.
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    Originally Posted by Slated View Post
    Dick,

    you really need to stop trolling me, because I make you look like an ass every time.

    I am so much more intellegent than you...... cry?
    lol. how is it that every time someone brags about their intelligence they spell an important word wrong?
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