Is it wierd that I still wanna cut?

[FutureCop]

5'10, about 174lbs.... Im flexing my abs in this picture but they still arent very visible.. im not a big person but i still want to cut.... right now a 32 pant is wearable but still kinda tight on me and i want to keep cutting, what do u guys think, good idea? I really dont have much desire to be big, i just wanna be really lean, kinda like those abercrombie models, sounds kinda gay, but whatever

[IronLoader]

Not really, you do have a bit more fat that could come off.

If thats your goal then just go for it.

[FutureCop]

Originally Posted by IronLoader

Not really, you do have a bit more fat that could come off.

If thats your goal then just go for it.

yeaaa... i just get disgusted with myself sometimes... especially when im sitting and the gut kinda rolls up on me hahaha, im also a gyno victim but i've had the surgery and the surgeon removed all the fat but im still puffy in the chest area, im thinking its probably just from the body fat.... suck tho cause my arms/legs are are very lean, but my torso is still a lil chubby

anyway, just wanted some reassurance that im making the right move

[DeathKnight]

It's a bodybuilding forum. No one is going to encourage you to cut at this bf level.
I wouldn't but since you want to, go ahead. Some models are really well built though. Post a poicture of what kind of model. They all look different.

[FutureCop]

http://www.abercrombie.com/webapp/wc...tegoryId=12202

in the jeans section u can see the lower half of the torso/arms, kinda get the idea

[IronLoader]

Why dont you consider just lifting for 6-8 months on a solid clean bulk. Little over maintenance. If you can make a nice slow bulk with minimal fat gains you can get some lean mass behind you.

This will make cutting easier and the end result better. Just because you dont want to get big doesnt mean you cant apply simple bulking and cutting principles to your training.

[Brodeur3o]

Sometimes that is the best way to pursue the minimal goals until you see balances needed elsewhere

[JerG]

you can cut if you'd like, but you'll probably have to go to around 155 if you really want a model's bf%.

So even if you finish the cut you won't have much mass. But if the fat really bothers you, you may as well get rid of it.

[FutureCop]

Originally Posted by IronLoader

Why dont you consider just lifting for 6-8 months on a solid clean bulk. Little over maintenance. If you can make a nice slow bulk with minimal fat gains you can get some lean mass behind you.

This will make cutting easier and the end result better. Just because you dont want to get big doesnt mean you cant apply simple bulking and cutting principles to your training.

Well, what i think im going to do is go back on the diet my friend made for me... he is a bodybuilder, competes, trains, etc etc.... contained 8-9 small meals a day, mostly chicken,rice,salmon, almonds, lil bit of steak, lean protein shakes....

anyway, i was on that for a few weeks and i didnt gain or lose any weight, stayed at 175 but my upper body got noticeably bigger and my waist shrunk about an inch.... ill prob continue on this diet but i might try to change my training routines to mon/wed/fri - full body workouts, and tues/thurs/sat to HIIT

i figure im still young and should try out everything for a few weeks and see whats best for me... if ur interested in knowing how my diet looked just lemme know and ill write it up real quick

[Radok]

You can cut if you want to, but I don't think you'll be as happy with the end result as you would if you put on some muscle first. If you could get really ripped at say 185 I think you'd be happy you put on the mass so that you're not just completely skinny with abs.

[FutureCop]

Originally Posted by Radok

You can cut if you want to, but I don't think you'll be as happy with the end result as you would if you put on some muscle first. If you could get really ripped at say 185 I think you'd be happy you put on the mass so that you're not just completely skinny with abs.

yeaa i see what you're saying.... i dont wanna be skinny, i wanna be lean.... im sure u know what im getting at

[Aimahn]

I dont think cutting is a bad thing to pursue at this stage but if I were you I wouldnt do an intensive cut just sort of a slow clean bulk with little periods of cutting in between. I know you dont wanna get caught in a cycle of intense cutting and bulking because your just negating both, but at the same time I think its possible to lean out a little bit but still gain some muscle or at least maintain alot of muscle while leaning out.

[getfitgetgirls]

Originally Posted by DeathKnight

It's a bodybuilding forum. No one is going to encourage you to cut at this bf level.
I wouldn't but since you want to, go ahead. Some models are really well built though. Post a poicture of what kind of model. They all look different.

bodybuilding doesnt have to just about becoming jacked or swole.
each person is different, much like each house, if your building a house, not all them are mansions, some of them could of bungalows, or just average sized.

op if really feel that cutting is what you want right now, do it but keep your protein intake at around 200grams so you keep as much muscle as possible while you take the fat off.
id assume ud be 6 pack ripped around 160lbs.

[thedrivenone]

Similar situation as you at 177lbs and 15% BF.

Bottom line is I'm not a bodybuilder, so I'm going to try to get lean as I can to where I look my most fit then try to clean bulk from there in a slow, controlled fashion.

I started my cut two weeks ago, it may take 8-10 weeks more. But I want to see abs then bulk up. 8-10 weeks is a lot, but if I take it properly it should happen. I saw u got gyno surgery, I got gyno...I keep fat in very stubborn estrogenic patterns, so it's hard.

edit: I do realize i'll hit the high 150s, low 160s when I'm done cutting, but that's fine, I'm 17, if I can do a very, very controlled clean bulk after, by next summer I could be at about 170-172lbs at 10% BF. And keep on improving.

[FutureCop]

Originally Posted by thedrivenone

I started my cut two weeks ago, it may take 8-10 weeks more. But I want to see abs then bulk up. 8-10 weeks is a lot, but if I take it properly it should happen. I saw u got gyno surgery, I got gyno...I keep fat in very stubborn estrogenic patterns, so it's hard.

edit: I do realize i'll hit the high 150s, low 160s when I'm done cutting, but that's fine, I'm 17, if I can do a very, very controlled clean bulk after, by next summer I could be at about 170-172lbs at 10% BF. And keep on improving.

The gyno is what makes me want to cut, cause my chest doesnt really have that much shape to it, before i yell at my surgeon i figured i should try to shed some bf and see if thats the problem... i'd like to get down to 165 (about 9-10lbs cut) then see how im looking.... and about the protein intake, i think i end up taking in about 230-240 grams a day

[billy.]

Hey bro. I totally dig your wanting to cut, hah lotsa guys on the forum would like to look like Abercrombie models! If that's your goal, then I totally support that, but my guess is that if you lost 10lbs or so, you'd think you just looked really skinny. I would concentrate on training and keeping some reasonably high macros to build muscle. Those abercrombie guys are cut up, but they also are probably between 170-180lbs lean.

[FutureCop]

Originally Posted by billy.

Hey bro. I totally dig your wanting to cut, hah lotsa guys on the forum would like to look like Abercrombie models! If that's your goal, then I totally support that, but my guess is that if you lost 10lbs or so, you'd think you just looked really skinny. I would concentrate on training and keeping some reasonably high macros to build muscle. Those abercrombie guys are cut up, but they also are probably between 170-180lbs lean.

yeaa i see what ur saying... but if after my cut i just look skinny... it would be a good time for a clean bulk, that would be the easy part lol

[mattglop]

I don't think it's weird. A lot of people on here don't really like the skinny, lean, abs look (it IS a bodybuilding forum), but there are also many who are not bodybuilders who want the lean look this dude has:

http://www.imdb.com/media/rm4116813312/nm1544217

[FutureCop]

Originally Posted by mattglop

I don't think it's weird. A lot of people on here don't really like the skinny, lean, abs look (it IS a bodybuilding forum), but there are also many who are not bodybuilders who want the lean look this dude has:

http://www.imdb.com/media/rm4116813312/nm1544217

yeaa thats pretty much the loook im going for

[Getting_Cut22]

Originally Posted by DeathKnight

It's a bodybuilding forum. No one is going to encourage you to cut at this bf level.
I wouldn't but since you want to, go ahead. Some models are really well built though. Post a poicture of what kind of model. They all look different.

I encourage anyone who has a goal to reach it, the point of bodybuilding is to look good imo. If you think cutting will make you look better, do it imo.

[JarHeaD316]

I have been doing 'this' for 4-5 years. Every year I wanted to get cut but I just couldn't do it because the lean mass just wasn't there. After finally going on a serious clean bulk this past winter I gained some size and now cutting has been easier than ever. Give it another year, maybe gain some size then try out a cut. The results will be much more achievable.

[lotus_esprit5]

I'd say an extremely clean bulk to gain a little more mass, get more thickness in your abs, and then cut.

The model in your link looks pretty average actually, not impressive at all. Low bf%, but the abs have very little size so they don't cut through much and there isn't any serious kind of definition there. You want more size and thickness before you lean out.