Biotest's new 11-T hormone (17b-hydroxyadrenosterone)

[BalloonKnot]

Biotest's latest hormone:

http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_...ay_comes_again

Would this be comparable to Lean Extreme?

[Patrick Arnold]

Biotest's latest hormone:

http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_...ay_comes_again

Would this be comparable to Lean Extreme?

oh my

[Halosoccer24]

Biotest's latest hormone:

http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_...ay_comes_again

Would this be comparable to Lean Extreme?

Errm...No

[Salty99]

the only way that they would be similar is by saying that they are both completely different from each other.



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[tolkaNo]

soo this is spray on 11-oxo right?

[neuron]

soo this is spray on 11-oxo right?

It is one step away from 11-oxo. And its an acetate, so the acetate would need to be cleaved first before it becomes an -OH.

[RufusTFirefly]

Wow!
Ergopharm 11-OXO $7.99 a gram
Biotest 11-Test $14.88 a gram

I can't believe people pay that much!

[bongd]

Biotest..............

[iForce Dave]

Biotest..............

because i am a rep i will not say that i completely support the eye rolling smiley

[Halosoccer24]

Wow!
Ergopharm 11-OXO $7.99 a gram
Biotest 11-Test $14.88 a gram

I can't believe people pay that much!

As a transdermal its supposed to work much better.

[BalloonKnot]

Would a transdermal 11-oxo work better than than the current version?

[Halosoccer24]

Would a transdermal 11-oxo work better than than the current version?

Look at the post above yours.

[VaughnTrue]

As a transdermal its supposed to work much better.

Look at the post above yours.

see key word

[Halosoccer24]

see key word

Thank you, I should have bolded it in the first place anyways.

[BalloonKnot]

Look at the post above yours.

'Suppose to work better' does not equal 'will work better'.

That is why I asked.

I guess you do not have a definite answer either.

Thanks...

[RWHJR3]

I can't get excited about most products anymore. The good o'l days have passed.

[Halosoccer24]

'Suppose to work better' does not equal 'will work better'.

That is why I asked.

I guess you do not have a definite answer either.

Thanks...

It just came out and is extremely expensive so no I don't have an answer.

[bongd]

because i am a rep i will not say that i completely support the eye rolling smiley

I sea what u did thair.

[JBerto]

Repeated thread: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=109934341

They says its transdermal 11-Keto, not 11-OXO:

Patrick Arnold informed us that blood levels of 17-ADR (which he calls 11-KT, same thing) in man are, if I recall correctly, something like 1/5 of testosterone levels. In other words, there's a whole lot of it.

http://www.t-nation.com/tmagnum/read...16598&pageNo=6

(17-ADR is 17-hydroxyadrenosterone (Biotest's 11-T), and 11-KT is 11-Ketotestosterone (like StarChem's ICON), so if what Bill Roberts is saying is true, then that 11-T is Transdermal 11-Ketotestosterone)

[iannotti]

Not sure If I'm going to try this out now or later, but judging by there history with how well mag-10 worked, and a 100% money back guarantee I'm going to give it a shot in the near future...

[BalloonKnot]

Not sure If I'm going to try this out now or later, but judging by there history with how well mag-10 worked, and a 100% money back guarantee I'm going to give it a shot in the near future...

You might not get that chance as they have made only 1 batch so far and it will sell out before Friday (8/22) and it takes them 8 weeks to make a new batch.

I am going to pass on this batch as I am not inclined to spend the money right now.

[Halosoccer24]

Not sure If I'm going to try this out now or later, but judging by there history with how well mag-10 worked, and a 100% money back guarantee I'm going to give it a shot in the near future...

Be sure to log it because I think the majority of the people around here won't buy it due to the price anyways but good feedback may get some people sucked in.

[James Klein]

As a transdermal its supposed to work much better.

According to who?

[Halosoccer24]

According to who?

Mainly according to the claims they have made about this product.

[iannotti]

According to who?

According to bill roberts, taking this orally, much gets deactivated on metabolism pass through....

[fayd]

According to who?

I'd have to look it up, (and will) but I think I recall Antiglobalist (who I think used to be Dalamara) raving about running andrenosterone TD.

Well, upon looking: Antiglobalist said this in another recent thread...
"I've used transdermal adrenosterone, and there is no way I'd pay for this crap.

The whole point of doing transdermal is to save money. Be able to use less product for the same results... and with that amount of cash you could buy so many bottles of oral 11oxo...

I didn't notice anything from my transdermal that a high dose or oral wouldn't have accomplished."

[Halosoccer24]

According to bill roberts, taking this orally, much gets deactivated on metabolism pass through....

I'd have to look it up, (and will) but I think I recall Antiglobalist (who I think used to be Dalamara) raving about running andrenosterone TD.

Well, upon looking: Antiglobalist said this in another recent thread...
"I've used transdermal adrenosterone, and there is no way I'd pay for this crap.

The whole point of doing transdermal is to save money. Be able to use less product for the same results... and with that amount of cash you could buy so many bottles of oral 11oxo...

I didn't notice anything from my transdermal that a high dose or oral wouldn't have accomplished."

And to add to that, the claims are basically saying its going to be much better than oral 11-oxo.

[brand77]

As a transdermal its supposed to work much better.

I tried adrenosterone as a transdermal (with Penetrate) and later orally with 11-OXO. I liked the 11-OXO much better. Transdermals are kind of a pain as well in my opinion.

[SoCool]

Any one at t-nation tried it? Any feedback?

[RatherBeLifting]

Any one at t-nation tried it? Any feedback?

like I will believe anything I read at t-nation.