Around late April early May I decided to move my deadlifts from leg day to back day, so of my heavy lifts (bench/squat/deadlift), I wouldn't be doing two on the same day anymore. Really bad decision, trained deadlifts first (and really hard), and went on to the rest of my back workout which didn't feel the same, my entire back just felt a whole lot weaker. Went to go hit some cable rows, and completely f*cked my back up! Something just kind of popped and my entire lower back hurt like hell; I couldn't bend over and had a really hard time moving around and sitting, even felt really nauseated off the bat. Rested a week, and then trained a bit easier after that for another two weeks. My doctor told me a week or two of rest should have it back up and running in no time, diagnosed me with a minor muscle strain in my lower back. It hasn't felt the same since, slight irritating pain constantly and still haven't been able to do deadlifts, and then I reinjured my back doing the exact same exercise except this time without the deadlifts before hand and going way lighter, about two months ago. It hurts every day! I try keeping good posture and resting a lot but I'm just not sure when I'll be able to do deadlifts again, I'm never going to touch cable rows ever again. Any advice? What other kind of injuries can you get in your lower back and how long do they take to heal? Btw I make sure my technique is perfect in my exercises. I'm currently resting about two weeks before starting my next bulking cycle, trying to ice and heat it a lot. It's been over 3 months!
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Thread: LOWER BACK mystery injury
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08-12-2008, 05:24 PM #1
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LOWER BACK mystery injury
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08-12-2008, 09:16 PM #2
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08-12-2008, 10:35 PM #3
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Hey man, is the pain more of a irritating pain now that is has been some time since the first incident? I know the pain is in the lower back but is it also in the but cheek alittle? I have this back pain that has been around for years. What happend was I was stretching my legs while sitting down and I jumped to my left toes. I immediately felt a sharp pain in my lower back and in my leg. What happend was I twisted something, I forgot what it is called, in my lower back and it became swollen. The pain is coming from a disc hitting a nerve so the pain is in my lower back and cheek. You might want to go to a chiropractor and get a small adjustment, take it easy for awhile, go back again to the chiropractor, take it easy, and loosen up things in the back...it might help...let me know wassup man
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08-13-2008, 01:21 PM #4
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08-13-2008, 01:22 PM #5
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yes it is! it doesn't hurt too bad, it's just constant and irritating, and it does go into the left side of my butt! I was always wondering why, usually pain traveling down one or both legs is associated with a ruptured spinal nucleus, but I know mines is nowhere near that bad. So what exactly is it that you got diagnosed with? Has it healed yet? You doing anything special for it?
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08-14-2008, 06:20 PM #6
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Well all I went to was the chiropractor. He stated that I over stretched and twisted my lower spine. When I did that I made it swollen and a disc slipped which is now hitting a nerve that when touched sends pain down the leg. I mean you can sit there streching and messaging all you want but the pain will be there because its the disc not the actual muscle. Also, what I did was make one leg slightly shorter than the other and thats why it hurts too. When I went to the chiropractor he adjusted my back and streched me out. He did small things like rub certain placed on my head, neck, and lower back which I remembered to do because they were so easy. I did nothing for awhile then went back to get adjusted again. I felt better for awhile after that but it came back when I started to lift and stuff. Try these small things and it will loosen up your back and allow it to breathe. Grab the top of your head and rub pretty hard, well firm at least. Also, behind your ears where it is hardm rub that area because its connected to your neck. Also, rub the back of your neck alittle. These small things allow your back to loosen up and you can feel it doing so. Try it let me know what you think. But for sure go to a chiropractor and it'll will be fixed!
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08-30-2008, 10:05 PM #7
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thanks for your input man. Actually I just started seeing a chiropractor last week, I DO have a slipped disc. An injury when I was really young locked my hip in an upright position putting lots of stress on my lower back, my muscles were barely holding it in right this whole time and the hard training just made it slip out. I need a year of weekly adjustments. And one of my legs is shorter than the other too!
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08-31-2008, 09:39 AM #8
You don't know if you have a slipped disc unless you had an MRI. And FYI, there is no such thing as a slipped disc. There are bulging discs, and there are herniated discs, but there is no such thing as a "slip". The difference can be seen here:
http://www.discountvitaminsexpress.c...conditions.jpg
That being said, I believe you should stop going to a chiropractor immediately. Their "adjustments" that perform on the lower back are infamous for causing disc herniation, especially for discs which were already bulging or damaged.
The correct path to go would to go see an orthopedic specialist. He'll first likely prescribe you an X-Ray to check for any obvious skeletal problems. If nothing shows up, he'll then more than likely get you an MRI. X-rays can not show tissue damage, so for disc injuries, an MRI is crucial. The majority of back injuries are relieved through Physical Therapy and anti-inflamitories. However, if this doesn't work for you, cortisone steroid epidural injections to reduce inflamation are the next step. After that, surgery is the only option, which is usually either a microdiscectomy(partial removal of the disc) or a full removal of the disc and vertebrae fusion. Herniated discs will never heal on their own, however, bulging discs are a different matter.
I had a chiropractor do exactly the same thing to me after I started experiencing months worth of sciatica. I had a lift in my left shoe since evidently my legs were different lengths (due to my hips being out of alignment on an X-Ray which was taken while I was standing and in pain). He then did some adjustments for about 2 weeks until I felt a pop in my lower back. The next day I was in complete agony.
I stopped going to a chiropractor and found out that what happened to me was pretty common place. It turns out my L4/L5 disc herniated as a result of the adjustments and the L2-L4 discs were bulging. I also had a shifted pelvis which most likely caused my spinal problems to begin with. My leg lengths are perfectly equal and how they should be, and the lift actually worsened the pelvic tilt. I now have nerve damage in my right leg and nearly constant sciatica in my left, but I usually only feel pain in my right leg when my left leg isn't in pain. Physical therapy didn't work for me, and honestly, the pain isn't bad enough for me to want to get epidurals or surgery. Eventually I hope that disc replacements develop a bit further for when my disc degenerates down the road.
In summary, please don't go to a chiropractor with a possible disc injury.Last edited by 2uantuM; 08-31-2008 at 09:56 AM.
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09-05-2008, 10:30 PM #9
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Hey dude, thanks TONS for your insight. My chiropractor doesnt use HVLA (high velocity low amplitude) techniques but instead uses this small weak ass tool thingy that I can barely even feel, plus he knows my older sister very well. But I'm still definitely taking your advice, I've spoken to him about getting an MRI ASAP. So you said I should check out an orthopedic specialist? Sadly lots of the chiropractors around here also call themselves orthopedic doctors. I've also emailed my family doctor about what you said, I look forward to hearing back from him. I also googled it and your certaintly right, there are lots of cases where chiropractors have actually caused spinal disc herniation. So when I do get my MRI results back, what do you think I should do? I know if it's already herniated I need surgery, but if it's bulging I should stop chiropractic immediately? How about if it's just a pinched nerve, is that minor enough that I can rely on them to fix it? I appreciate your and anybody else's feedback. thanks
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