the rush I get after heavy deads is second to none.
they're not essential, but if you choose not to do them, you're seriously missing out on the best part of weight training.
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Thread: Why Deadlift?
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08-10-2008, 10:22 AM #31
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08-10-2008, 10:28 AM #32anonymousGuest
Floor pulls or rack work with too much weight will torch your CNS very quickly.
I look at deads as more of a guage of where my CNS stands than an exercise in their own right. But the average bb.com'er could certainly get away, and even thrive on deads done weekly as an exercise.
Rack pulls from below the knee with no more than your 1RM full deadlift are great for the back, especially if you do them for 6-8 reps. But if you stick 100's of pounds more than you can actually lift and try to grunt out a 2 inch rack pull, then expect nothing good to come of it.
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08-10-2008, 01:30 PM #33
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08-10-2008, 01:39 PM #34
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08-10-2008, 02:02 PM #35
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08-10-2008, 02:12 PM #36
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08-10-2008, 02:17 PM #37
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08-10-2008, 02:30 PM #38
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08-10-2008, 02:39 PM #39
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08-10-2008, 02:54 PM #40
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08-10-2008, 03:32 PM #41
My current gym only has 1 spot for dead's and its attached to the 1 squat rack and theres always some tool monopolizing it to put 185 on the bar and go 1/4 of the way down on squats. I would wait for it, but then I'd be standing around for like 15 min and i'd rather just move on. Therefore I only get to deadlift ~2ce a month. Yesterday there was a guy that was using the squat rack for 1 hour and 45 mins to do 1 clean and jerk then take a 2-3 min break before doing anything else.
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08-10-2008, 04:00 PM #42
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08-10-2008, 05:15 PM #43
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08-10-2008, 05:28 PM #44
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08-10-2008, 08:35 PM #45
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08-10-2008, 09:00 PM #46
I don't think anyone has mentioned this: the deadlift, is one of the most functional lifts you can do. Once I learned how to deadlift properly, lifting super heavy boxes, trunks, even huge swimming docks (at camp) has been easier and I'm not scared of ruining my back by lifting something improperly.
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08-11-2008, 12:43 AM #47
You can DL twice a week. I do the conventional DL and the RDL. The RDL, in particular, is one of the best exercises out there. They are by far the preferred exercise of the USC football team and it's strength and conditioning coach. If you are an athlete or just regularly compete in sports involving explosiveness, the RDL is an absolute must becuase it will ensure your hammies and glutes grow in synchronicity.
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08-11-2008, 06:43 AM #48
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I have been deadlifting every 5-6 days. Never as heavy as I can go, I am new to it although I played football in college (we weren't very good.) Is it a bad thing to make it part of my back routine once a week? I love doing them, but I saw someone here said not to do it too much as it is bad for the body? Any opinions? Also does this go the same for squats?
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08-11-2008, 06:50 AM #49
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08-11-2008, 07:01 AM #50
I stopped doing them because it made my obliques grow too much, made my front look extremely wide when i flexed my abs. I simply replaced deads with other movements and i havent seen a drop in anything really physique wise, besides my midsection.
Just like anything else, deads should be evaluated, and what you are actually trying to accomplish is your main thought. You going for strength? or for size? The answers to those questions can greatly affect the answer to whether or not deads are a critical movement.see ya at 225
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08-11-2008, 08:09 AM #51
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08-11-2008, 08:40 AM #52
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08-11-2008, 08:56 AM #53
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08-11-2008, 08:59 AM #54
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08-11-2008, 09:05 AM #55
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I do my deads at the beginning of my back workout when I have the most strength. It's one of the best massbuilders you can do, so to having your most strength for them is imperative.
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08-11-2008, 09:13 AM #56
No, you don't have to deadlift, but if you're like most people on this site, your goal is to build as much muscle and strength , as quickly as possible. Deadlifts allow you to handle more weight than any other exercise, causing your body to adapt to the maximum level of stress. Doing a routine consisting of squats, deads, and presses will be the straightest line from where you are now to where you want to be, but, of course, it's your choice. Good luck.
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08-11-2008, 09:30 AM #57
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08-11-2008, 09:36 AM #58
I was like that in my early 20's - I just focused on arms and shoulders, and gave passing glances to most other bodyparts. I certainly didn't do those exercises above. I was lucky to do some pushups or free squats (squats without weights) if I found the time.
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08-11-2008, 09:37 AM #59
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08-11-2008, 10:16 AM #60anonymousGuest
That would depend on how much weight is on the bar, and how hard you pull.
The deadlift is good for the genetically challenged as it's the only powerlift that determination and perseverence can overcome middling genetics. Not everyone can squat or press big weights, but if you apply yourself anyone can have a reasonable pull.
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