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    Why Deadlift?

    Ok, so I hear all the praise for deadlift, but is it really necessary to incorporate into a workout plan? On bb.com it says that it targets quads then hammies and glutes, the same as squat does...Basically, if im hitting the major muscle groups in my workouts with squats, lunges, leg press, etc. is it important to also have deadlift, and if so why?
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    The deadlift is the single most important movement you can do IMHO. The reason why I say this is because it is incorporating a push and pull movement at the same time. The deadlift is a compound lift that truly works the whole body.
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    Originally Posted by Dumbell85 View Post
    The deadlift is the single most important movement you can do IMHO. The reason why I say this is because it is incorporating a push and pull movement at the same time. The deadlift is a compound lift that truly works the whole body.
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    Is it required? No


    Essential? No


    But its a movement that works. Its a movement that really hammers every muscle group. All your power comes from the core. Especially when doing lower body movements.

    I'm not gonna sit here and put deadlifts on a pedistal. But ya.. its that kind of movement, that people DON'T do becuase they are lazy. Its that one movement that people DON'T do becuase it hurts.


    But its that one movement, that I particularly like to do because, it is.......that one movement.



    Can you name one other movement that pretty much hits pretty much damn near every muscle group on yoru body?
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    Originally Posted by bdub92 View Post
    Ok, so I hear all the praise for deadlift, but is it really necessary to incorporate into a workout plan? On bb.com it says that it targets quads then hammies and glutes, the same as squat does...Basically, if im hitting the major muscle groups in my workouts with squats, lunges, leg press, etc. is it important to also have deadlift, and if so why?
    Why would you not want to incorporate it?? Just because one other exercise works the same muscles does/should not mean you neglect it. The Deadlift will tap into muscles that are otherwise not used in other exercises. It would be foolish not to take advantage of this exercise unless of course you are unable to do it eg injury.
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    Originally Posted by bdub92 View Post
    Ok, so I hear all the praise for deadlift, but is it really necessary to incorporate into a workout plan? On bb.com it says that it targets quads then hammies and glutes, the same as squat does...Basically, if im hitting the major muscle groups in my workouts with squats, lunges, leg press, etc. is it important to also have deadlift, and if so why?
    It also thickens your back and traps, so as an all round movement, it kicks plenty of arse, so to speak
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    Originally Posted by bdub92 View Post
    Ok, so I hear all the praise for deadlift, but is it really necessary to incorporate into a workout plan? On bb.com it says that it targets quads then hammies and glutes, the same as squat does...Basically, if im hitting the major muscle groups in my workouts with squats, lunges, leg press, etc. is it important to also have deadlift, and if so why?
    just incorporate them into your routine for a couple of your workouts. then post back and tell us how you feel.
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    Originally Posted by bdub92 View Post
    Ok, so I hear all the praise for deadlift, but is it really necessary to incorporate into a workout plan? On bb.com it says that it targets quads then hammies and glutes, the same as squat does...Basically, if im hitting the major muscle groups in my workouts with squats, lunges, leg press, etc. is it important to also have deadlift, and if so why?
    The deadlift will also isometrically work your traps.

    It's my favorite lift but there's no question it's overrated as a bodybuilding exercise. From that perspective rack pulls and SLDL/RDLs would be better choices since you can initiate the lift from a position where genetic advantages in leverage (i.e. long arms/short torso) aren't an issue. I also think you could achieve similar results in the upper body from barbell rows and shrugs, and in the lower body from squats and other glute/hamstring exercises. They're definitely not for everyone.

    Having said that, you'll notice a certain kind of thickness in the backs of lifters who pull heavy weights and the most effective way to achieve that if it's important to you is to deadlift (or rack pull).
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    DL don't hit quads as the primary group.

    The main target is the spinal erectors (lower back). In my opinion deads/rack pulls are also the best trap exercise. They also build nice hams and glutes.
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    Originally Posted by _Dominik_ View Post
    The deadlift will also isometrically work your traps.

    It's my favorite lift but there's no question it's overrated as a bodybuilding exercise. From that perspective rack pulls and SLDL/RDLs would be better choices since you can initiate the lift from a position where genetic advantages in leverage (i.e. long arms/short torso) aren't an issue. I also think you could achieve similar results in the upper body from barbell rows and shrugs, and in the lower body from squats and other glute/hamstring exercises. They're definitely not for everyone.

    Having said that, you'll notice a certain kind of thickness in the backs of lifters who pull heavy weights and the most effective way to achieve that if it's important to you is to deadlift (or rack pull).
    Dom's right on track as usual. Just to add a bit to his comments...

    if you are bodybuilding, you are generally ISOLATING muscle groups to tweak them individually, and the other moves can be substituted for the deadlift.

    if you are strength training, you are generally INTEGRATING your muscle function and deadlifts would be be your best move.

    Also, consider that deadlifts will help everything else, especially your squat and overhead pressing, etc. due to the deep core strength deadlifts require and develop.
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    I do them every other week now.

    It allows me to use the lift to my benefit, but also allows me to do more volume at every other back workout.
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    deadlifts are very good along with squats very!.... epitome of alpha maleness.. bench,squat, deads
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    I started doing deadlifts about a month ago and now I don't go a week with out it. It is a good overall body exercise.
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    Alright thx alot for the replies, I am planning on putting them in, I just wanted to make sure it was worth my while, considering my workouts kick my ass already, but a little more ass kicking cant hurt .

    Edit: Also iss it ok to DL 2x a week if im doing a 3 day split?
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    lol depends on how to do it I only use back on my dead lifts.
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    Originally Posted by bdub92 View Post
    Alright thx alot for the replies, I am planning on putting them in, I just wanted to make sure it was worth my while, considering my workouts kick my ass already, but a little more ass kicking cant hurt .

    Edit: Also iss it ok to DL 2x a week if im doing a 3 day split?
    only DL heavy once a month. 2x a week you will overload your CNS FAST!
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    Originally Posted by bdub92 View Post
    Alright thx alot for the replies, I am planning on putting them in, I just wanted to make sure it was worth my while, considering my workouts kick my ass already, but a little more ass kicking cant hurt .

    Edit: Also iss it ok to DL 2x a week if im doing a 3 day split?
    once a week will suffice.
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    Man deads are so intense. I almost pass out every time I do them. And yes I breathe.
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    Alright thx alot for the replies, I really appreciate it. Ide rep more if I had any power...
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    Originally Posted by _Dominik_ View Post
    The deadlift will also isometrically work your traps.

    It's my favorite lift but there's no question it's overrated as a bodybuilding exercise. From that perspective rack pulls and SLDL/RDLs would be better choices since you can initiate the lift from a position where genetic advantages in leverage (i.e. long arms/short torso) aren't an issue. I also think you could achieve similar results in the upper body from barbell rows and shrugs, and in the lower body from squats and other glute/hamstring exercises. They're definitely not for everyone.

    Having said that, you'll notice a certain kind of thickness in the backs of lifters who pull heavy weights and the most effective way to achieve that if it's important to you is to deadlift (or rack pull).
    I was gona say my traps and shoulder area have improved since I really started hitting deads. I just like the feeling it gives that your really working hard. (not that I dont work hard on every lift.)
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    Originally Posted by Demon-seven View Post
    lol depends on how to do it I only use back on my dead lifts.
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    Originally Posted by telega C 33 View Post
    lol wut?
    agreed...wtf!
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    stiff legged deadlift?

    or nor mal deadlift?
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    Ok so its a little overrated but i can't seriously sit here and say thats its not a good exercise. I mean Deadlifting hits the **** out of my lower back and I love it!!
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    I am fairly new to rack pulls and I like them very much. I will be keeping them in my workout for good. Good exercise and I feel it afterwards.
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    Originally Posted by ReSpAwN DeMoN View Post
    Is it required? No


    Essential? No


    But its a movement that works. Its a movement that really hammers every muscle group. All your power comes from the core. Especially when doing lower body movements.

    I'm not gonna sit here and put deadlifts on a pedistal. But ya.. its that kind of movement, that people DON'T do becuase they are lazy. Its that one movement that people DON'T do becuase it hurts.


    But its that one movement, that I particularly like to do because, it is.......that one movement.



    Can you name one other movement that pretty much hits pretty much damn near every muscle group on yoru body?
    My problem is I can't get the form down, and I really don't want to F**K up my back that badly when I'm only 20. I tried following advice by starting slow, but once I get to a certain point, I just can't keep good form. The best part is i'm not sure what good form is anyway, I could be doing it completely wrong, so I choose to abstain.
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    Originally Posted by johnnyD7 View Post
    My problem is I can't get the form down, and I really don't want to F**K up my back that badly when I'm only 20. I tried following advice by starting slow, but once I get to a certain point, I just can't keep good form. The best part is i'm not sure what good form is anyway, I could be doing it completely wrong, so I choose to abstain.
    You need to get someone to do a form check. I just had a form check the other day. I felt like my form was good but I wanted to make sure. I asked to be checked, and it was good to go. If you do not have someone to check you then load a video on youtube or something and then ask for opinions from people on here. Good luck.
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    Trap bar dl one the best exercises. A true mass builder. The real test of strength.
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