Ok, so I hear all the praise for deadlift, but is it really necessary to incorporate into a workout plan? On bb.com it says that it targets quads then hammies and glutes, the same as squat does...Basically, if im hitting the major muscle groups in my workouts with squats, lunges, leg press, etc. is it important to also have deadlift, and if so why?
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Thread: Why Deadlift?
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08-09-2008, 05:05 PM #1
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Why Deadlift?
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08-09-2008, 05:08 PM #2
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08-09-2008, 05:10 PM #4
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Is it required? No
Essential? No
But its a movement that works. Its a movement that really hammers every muscle group. All your power comes from the core. Especially when doing lower body movements.
I'm not gonna sit here and put deadlifts on a pedistal. But ya.. its that kind of movement, that people DON'T do becuase they are lazy. Its that one movement that people DON'T do becuase it hurts.
But its that one movement, that I particularly like to do because, it is.......that one movement.
Can you name one other movement that pretty much hits pretty much damn near every muscle group on yoru body?The Iron never lies to you. You can walk outside and hear all kinds of talk, get told that you're a god or a total bastard. The Iron will always kick you the real deal. The Iron is the great reference point, the all-knowing perspective giver. Always there like a beacon in the pitch black. I have found the Iron to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But two hundred pounds is always two hundred pounds. ~Henry Rollins
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08-09-2008, 05:15 PM #5
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Why would you not want to incorporate it?? Just because one other exercise works the same muscles does/should not mean you neglect it. The Deadlift will tap into muscles that are otherwise not used in other exercises. It would be foolish not to take advantage of this exercise unless of course you are unable to do it eg injury.
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08-09-2008, 05:19 PM #6
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08-09-2008, 05:30 PM #8
The deadlift will also isometrically work your traps.
It's my favorite lift but there's no question it's overrated as a bodybuilding exercise. From that perspective rack pulls and SLDL/RDLs would be better choices since you can initiate the lift from a position where genetic advantages in leverage (i.e. long arms/short torso) aren't an issue. I also think you could achieve similar results in the upper body from barbell rows and shrugs, and in the lower body from squats and other glute/hamstring exercises. They're definitely not for everyone.
Having said that, you'll notice a certain kind of thickness in the backs of lifters who pull heavy weights and the most effective way to achieve that if it's important to you is to deadlift (or rack pull).
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08-09-2008, 05:36 PM #9
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08-09-2008, 05:47 PM #10
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Dom's right on track as usual. Just to add a bit to his comments...
if you are bodybuilding, you are generally ISOLATING muscle groups to tweak them individually, and the other moves can be substituted for the deadlift.
if you are strength training, you are generally INTEGRATING your muscle function and deadlifts would be be your best move.
Also, consider that deadlifts will help everything else, especially your squat and overhead pressing, etc. due to the deep core strength deadlifts require and develop."Suffer the pain of discipline or suffer the pain of regret."
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08-09-2008, 05:52 PM #11
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I do them every other week now.
It allows me to use the lift to my benefit, but also allows me to do more volume at every other back workout.Bodybuilding is 60% training and 50% diet. Yes that adds up to 110%, because that's what you should be giving it. Change the inside, and the physique will follow.
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08-09-2008, 05:53 PM #12
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08-09-2008, 07:46 PM #15
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I started doing deadlifts about a month ago and now I don't go a week with out it. It is a good overall body exercise.
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08-09-2008, 08:20 PM #16
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08-10-2008, 10:04 AM #28
My problem is I can't get the form down, and I really don't want to F**K up my back that badly when I'm only 20. I tried following advice by starting slow, but once I get to a certain point, I just can't keep good form. The best part is i'm not sure what good form is anyway, I could be doing it completely wrong, so I choose to abstain.
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08-10-2008, 10:06 AM #29
You need to get someone to do a form check. I just had a form check the other day. I felt like my form was good but I wanted to make sure. I asked to be checked, and it was good to go. If you do not have someone to check you then load a video on youtube or something and then ask for opinions from people on here. Good luck.
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08-10-2008, 10:21 AM #30
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