Well hey its your boy cbfunston and I have returned once again with questions that i need answers for. Well lets begin........
What Exercises Can I Do For My Shoulders?
Well the question here is simple, today I went to the gym to work on my shoulders and for the 2nd consecutive time when I arrived home from the gym I felt like I still didn't work hard enough because my shoulders aren't feeling any soreness what so ever and I get a feeling that I' am not going to see any results for the next time I go to the gym. The main issue that I 'am struggling with is that last Thursday the work out was not tough at all so I bumped up the weight for the following week (today), and now today I did the work out it was indeed tougher than last week's but, the main issue was that after the workout I felt the same way as I did last week.
Can Anyone help me with this issue?
Bellow is the workout itself.....
(Each work out is rated 1-10 on how hard it was for me)
Front Laterals 3 sets of 8-10 reps - (5.5)
Side Laterals 3 sets of 8-10 reps - (7)
Military Presses 3 sets 8-10 reps - (9)
Dumbbell Shrugs 3 sets 10-12 reps - (6)
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08-07-2008, 10:12 PM #1
What Excercises Can I Do For Shoulders?
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08-07-2008, 10:20 PM #2
try supersets, raise everything to a (9) at least, lean away laterals (hold onto something with one arm, lean away and do a lateral raise..cant cheat that way), upright rows work really well...also, you have no rear delt work..
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08-08-2008, 02:16 AM #3
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Definitely wanna throw in Upright Rows and rear delt movements such as Bent-over DB Raises or Hi Cable Crossovers. Personally, I like to throw my lifting movements such as Shoulder Press, Military Press or Arnolds first on my routine, but its good to mix it up as well. Also, I hope you're not saying that you didn't feel the workout was tough enough b/c you weren't sore or something. You may not be sore but you still put the work in. Good luck
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08-08-2008, 02:27 AM #4
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08-08-2008, 03:39 AM #5
As small as the shoulder is, it’s the one muscle group that can take a lot of work. Personally I reckon your workout is shy of at least another 5 sets. You have nothing for the rear delt head.
My routine is as follows.
Hang Clean & Press 4 x 8 – 10
Seated Dumbbell Press super set with
Standing Dumbbell Lateral Raises 3 x 10 – 12
Barbell Front Raises 3 x 8 – 10
Lying Reverse Fly 3 x 10 – 12
Upright Rows 3 x 8 - 10Walk in the Light. It's easier to see the Truth there.
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08-08-2008, 07:09 AM #6
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You probably won't feel soreness in the deltoids. Most don't.
With the deltoids, for most, it's essential to keep the intensity up, Drop sets, higher repetitions, shorter rest periods and higher volume all are key.Bodybuilding is 60% training and 50% diet. Yes that adds up to 110%, because that's what you should be giving it. Change the inside, and the physique will follow.
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08-08-2008, 09:54 AM #7
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08-08-2008, 11:31 AM #8
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08-08-2008, 11:47 AM #9
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For shoulders all I do are: seated military presses, laterals raises and bent laterals. Regarding your delts not aching, this is normal with that muscle group.
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08-08-2008, 12:17 PM #10
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08-08-2008, 12:48 PM #11
You should prioritize the pressing movements first in your shoulder workout, they're the mass builders when it comes to shoulder building. Military Press and Behind the Neck Press are the meat and potatoes, add in some high pulls, upright rows, and reverse incline flys/H-Rolls is really all you need for solid shoulder development.
One other thing is heavy cheating lateral raises. They are very effective, much like cheat curls.Welcome to thunder dome, bitch.
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08-08-2008, 03:41 PM #12
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08-08-2008, 05:35 PM #13
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08-08-2008, 05:36 PM #14
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08-08-2008, 07:05 PM #16
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that you cant get sore bc they are delts
i think you can get sore if you are doing higher reps and more volume
from what ive read the side delts are slow twitch muscles. They respond to high reps/high volume low rest for me
when i first did this style, my side delts for sore for at least 2 days
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08-08-2008, 07:11 PM #17
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08-08-2008, 07:48 PM #18
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I stated most don't feel soreness. It's not a blanket statement.
I've been doing higher repetitions, high volume and high intensity after switching over three years ago, and although I've seen immense gains, I've only been sore once or twice. I know many others are in the same boat.
Some do experience soreness, like you did.Bodybuilding is 60% training and 50% diet. Yes that adds up to 110%, because that's what you should be giving it. Change the inside, and the physique will follow.
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08-08-2008, 07:52 PM #19
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08-08-2008, 08:38 PM #20
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08-08-2008, 09:25 PM #21
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08-08-2008, 11:15 PM #22
warm up by doing continuos sets of front, side and rear laterals 3 sets of 10 each way with just a light weight (5~7.5 kgs) till you feel a burn comming on this slightly pre exhausts your delts to make them easier to isolate <--- this is also good to get you warmed up. Then do seated dumbell press for 10,8,6,4~2, barbell clean and press 10,6,4~2, cheat now and do some push presses for 2 sets of 10, polish off you rear delts and do some shrugs and your done. I dont get as sore in my delts as i do in my other body parts but be careful not to over train them as they dont get as much blood flow and take longer to recover... also never more than 2 minutes rest between sets.
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08-11-2008, 09:13 AM #23
to feel some guarnteed stiffness try this....
do some machine shoulder presses to warm em up
db shoudler press 3x10. u wanna be tryin hard as piossible on the 9th or 10th to complete the sets with full intensity.
front lateral raises 3x16. (8 each arm) with good form, no rocking
side lateral raises. 3x16 (8 each arm) on the last rep for each set leavne your arms raised and hold for long as possible, like a cross.
upright rows. 3x10. try to go heavy but make sure u can complete al lsets with good form
db shoudler shrugs. 3x10 go heavy! shurg up, hold for 3 sec, then down = 1 good rep
smith machine shrugs, close grip. 3x10 and same technique, hold at top for a 3 count.
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08-11-2008, 09:18 AM #24
Hey man!
For strength, you should really be focusing on the major push movements for shoulders. DB and BB Military Press, BB Smith Machine Press, Arnold Presses will all help out with this.
Deltoid front, side, and rear will also help with shoulder development and overall strength.
Also, I suggest incorporating more Incline movements into your chest workouts. Not only will this be excellent for your chest, but will allow you to get an extra 'workout' on your front deltoids and fatigue your shoulders more.
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