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    Herbs like Vicodin

    Is there any great herbs that are strong natural pain killers? I have a lot of pain in my body and my doctor has prescribed me all sorts of vikes and muscle relaxers that make me sick. Anyone know anything natural that helps pain?
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    Originally Posted by dbthorp View Post
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    x2, agreed
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    Originally Posted by dbthorp View Post
    pot
    Hahah so true. Ive also heard smoking nutmeg will get you high, but its not as safe. It is much cheaper though.
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    Ouzo
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    Originally Posted by Bane View Post
    Ouzo
    Really I just did a search and it looks like some type of alcohol. Although I still want to try it. Can you PM me a good source for it please?
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    Originally Posted by Bane View Post
    Ouzo
    lol. ouzo is good stuff for it. Ouzo 12 is the pretty common choice and is easy to get a hold of.
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    Originally Posted by itsallmental View Post
    Is there any great herbs that are strong natural pain killers? I have a lot of pain in my body and my doctor has prescribed me all sorts of vikes and muscle relaxers that make me sick. Anyone know anything natural that helps pain?
    Dude I love vicodin and I have been looking for a cheaper healthier form for a while. Although I enjoy the high more than the pain reducing ability.

    Try this. IDK if it works tho.
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    Originally Posted by Myosin10 View Post
    Dude I love vicodin and I have been looking for a cheaper healthier form for a while. Although I enjoy the high more than the pain reducing ability.

    Try this. IDK if it works tho.
    http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/ht/pain.html
    Anybody ever tried this stuff before??
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    IMO in all seriousness if u do not want to take vicodin or pills like it prescribed by a doctor because of it not settling well/fear off addiction ext. pot is a good answer. yes it is illegal but if u are truly in pain and need something to control the pain function day to day, u do what u gotta do to continue to live a good life. because being in pain day after day after day is no way to live. and addiction to pills is also no way to live.
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    Originally Posted by IBE Labs View Post
    Kratom
    I almost posted that too, cause kratom is really good, but if opiate based painkillers make the OP sick I think Kratom will do the same thing.

    I was going to suggest poppy seed tea, but you'll have the same issues with that.

    Instead of focusing on managing or masking the pain you are in, why not try to treat the cause of it 1st?
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    Originally Posted by Wilki29 View Post
    Hahah so true. Ive also heard smoking nutmeg will get you high, but its not as safe. It is much cheaper though.

    dont listen to him, nutmeg is toxic as hell and you throw up.
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    Stay away from opiates if you don't like it. The above suggestions are all fine.
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    What sort of pain is this?
    Joint, muscle, ligament, bone, mystery pain?
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    Sesathin (sesamin) is a potent anti-imflammatory but there are no herbs that will relieve pain to the extent that an opiate is able to.
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    morpheeinnnee jk umm like they said weed, but idk when i smoked i would start to feel pain more soooo depends how you handle it.
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    Originally Posted by NiceGuyEddie View Post
    Sesathin (sesamin) is a potent anti-imflammatory but there are no herbs that will relieve pain to the extent that an opiate is able to.
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    not an herb, but oil of oregano is a pain killer. Ive read it rivals top nsaids too.
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    Originally Posted by Gator87 View Post
    What sort of pain is this?
    Joint, muscle, ligament, bone, mystery pain?
    Mystery pain.
    And to everyone else I just don't like what it does to my liver. I love getting high off vikes but is poppy seed tea the same high as taking vikes?
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    Nothing legal will ever give you the feeling of something like Vicodin. The most potent legal mind altering substances are alcohol and salvia
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    Originally Posted by itsallmental View Post
    Mystery pain.
    And to everyone else I just don't like what it does to my liver. I love getting high off vikes but is poppy seed tea the same high as taking vikes?
    Ask your doc for norco. Less tylenol and more of the good stuf hydrocodone. Better for the liver and better for the high!
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    Originally Posted by pats55583 View Post
    Nothing legal will ever give you the feeling of something like Vicodin. The most potent legal mind altering substances are alcohol and salvia
    You have not tried 7-Hydroxymitragynine or 7-acetoxymitragynine have you?

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    Originally Posted by CognitiveNutrition View Post
    You have not tried 7-Hydroxymitragynine or 7-acetoxymitragynine have you?

    Phenylethylamine would probably go up there with salvia based on BB reports.
    I have never heard impressive things from 7-hydroxy or 7-acetoxy. They are just expensive standardized versions of the actives in kratom.

    OP, if opiates make you sick, my guess would be that you are taking too much. Some people can be more susceptible. They just mimic the way endorphins work on your body, so you should not have any problems with them, unless you're allergic to codeine.

    As for me, kratom did absolutely nothing for me, and i tried 3 different extracts. The more i tried, i would just get bad stomach cramps. I would try kratom first though to see if you react. Some people experience very good opiate-effects.

    Also, poppy seed tea is very effective, but also dangerous, and can kill.
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    Poppy seed tea seems like it would help. How many grams for a succesful dose?
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