Stacking some Animal products, need advice...

X-Mark-X · 08-07-2008, 06:47 AM

I posted this is another thread and it got buried so I guess I'll just make another thread for this question lol.

Anyway, I ordered some Animal stak, m stack, pump, and test, and now I'm wondering what to do with it all when it gets here lol. Basically I have three options in my head (I'm going to be bulking, and I'm 21 in case it matters):

1. Take all 4 products together on one massive cycle (my biggest concern is that mixing this many products may be unhealthy. I'm not familiar with all of the ingredients in these products and don't want to harm my body by taking too much crap at once, also this is hella expensive).

2. Take stak, test, and pump together on a cycle. Immediately following this cycle, I would take the m stack by itself (I don't really care if it's the test and stak together, the point is to have two of them together with pump, and then the third one after, same goes for #3 as well).

3. Take stak, test, and pump together and save the m stack to be used in a different cycle in the future.

Anyway I'm not sure what to do please post any opinions/suggestions/personal experiences/etc.

Also, in terms of training I was thinking of doing German Volume Training while on the cycle. It's pretty much all about volume training (obviously) and doesn't really focus on strength at all, it's geared towards getting bigger, not stronger. Just wondering if this would be a good or bad idea to do while I'm taking this stuff. I just want to make sure I'm making the most out of my $$$. If I got good results I was planning on doing another cycle probably a month after the first one and doing a more strength based approach to training the second time around.

Sorry for the long ass thread comprised mostly of rambling, it's 6:43am and I just got home from a night shift and should probably be going to sleep now.

Thanks in advance for the responses!!! (assuming your response will be consisting of helpful information rather than flaming mockery. If your response will be consisting of the latter rather than the former, then I retract my previously advanced thanks)

_Smitty_ · 08-07-2008, 07:05 AM

option 2 is the most common (though, it's usually 2 consecutive cycles of test/stak, followed immediately by m-stak).

i won't speak to your training, but you'll pro'lly want to utilize the strength gains that usually accompany a stack like yours.

if nothing else, run the stak/test/pump with a strength training routine and run the m-stak with a volume protocol?

many things to consider... but, as i've said, option 2 is a solid one!

best of luck!!!

Orpheus333 · 08-07-2008, 07:09 AM

If I was looking at something like that it would go:

a run of Test and pump, then after go Stak, M-stak and pump.

11B · 08-07-2008, 10:51 AM

21? Bulking? We trek the same journey my friend.

I've been stacking Nitro, Pump, Stak, Pak and M-stak, for a little over 2 weeks, and I have nothing but great things to say about it! It's a lot to take in on one day, but my body has responded extremely well to it! I've had some nice strength AND size gains, and I'm only 2 weeks into the stack. I'll also probably be throwing in Test in two weeks.

You can check out my progress here:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post199461631

What smitty (the dude knows his ****) mentioned about taking m-stack with a volume routine is a solid idea as well.

I don't speak on subjects and matters of which I am ignorant of. I only speak out of experience, and my experience with the wicked stack I'm supplementing has yielded some sick results. Everyone's body responds differently, but we fit the same profile, so I think you would be fine.

It really all boils down to what YOU want to do (and your wallet).

X-Mark-X · 08-07-2008, 04:27 PM

Alright thanks for all the replies so far guys. I hear what you're saying about the strength Smitty, I just figured that I'd add some size with volume training first, then turn it into strength after. I've been doing strength training to try and maintain my strength while I've been cutting (biggest thing that ticks me off about a cut is getting weaker), so I thought it'd also be good to switch it up.

PmFcM · 02-06-2009, 02:33 PM

Sorry for bumping this old thread but i didn?t want to open a new one.

I?m thinking of doing the same thing but with a stack of Animal Test, Stack and M-Stack. Instead of going for option two can i take the 3 together?

I do feel that 21 days is a very short period but i might think of extending it for another 21 days in another cycle if results are good.

_Smitty_ · 02-06-2009, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by PmFcM

Sorry for bumping this old thread but i didn?t want to open a new one.

I?m thinking of doing the same thing but with a stack of Animal Test, Stack and M-Stack. Instead of going for option two can i take the 3 together?

I do feel that 21 days is a very short period but i might think of extending it for another 21 days in another cycle if results are good.

you can stack them, but why would you want to?

test/stak for 42 days, followed by 21 or 42 days of m-stak would prove to be a fierce protocol.

better still, hormonal, anabolic, hormonal... 42 days of test, 21 of m-stak, 21 of stak.

PmFcM · 02-06-2009, 03:37 PM

You?re right,that protocol looks good. Instead of spending alot of money all at once it?s better to stretch the stack for more days.

PmFcM · 02-13-2009, 04:57 AM

I can?t find Animal Test here in my country, only M-Stack and Stack.

I was thinking in doing a cycle of Stack/M-Stack,then when Test arrives do a cycle of Test/Stack and then one cycle of M-Stack (Or another cycle of Test/Stack after the first one and then M-Stack

).

Or should i wait for ATest to arrive instead of jumping to the M-Stack/Stack cycle right away?

B Con · 02-13-2009, 05:31 AM

I would go with Option 2.

I've actually ran all your options there. Option 1 wasn't bad it was just a pain taking so many supps at once... I know it's only one added supp but I felt it was more beneficial at the end of a Stak/Test run.

However what I would do is wait until you can run 2 cans of Stak and 2 cans of Test back to back as most users report the best results having a full 42 day run of each. I myself noticed in just 21 days the effects were just kicking in and I was wishing I had another can of each.

PmFcM · 02-13-2009, 06:52 AM

Alright, i will hold on until test arrives. It seems this product is making alot of success here that?s why the stocks are empty

PmFcM · 02-13-2009, 11:05 AM

Ah great,i?ve found ATest and Stack at a good price and i?m just waiting for it to arrive.

So after this cycle i do another one and then do a cycle of M-Stack?

_Aggression_ · 02-13-2009, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by PmFcM

Ah great,i?ve found ATest and Stack at a good price and i?m just waiting for it to arrive.

So after this cycle i do another one and then do a cycle of M-Stack?

Finishing up a cycle with M-stak is a great way to seal the deal and keep your gains.

PmFcM · 02-15-2009, 04:37 PM

Alright, will do as planned.

Two cycles of Atest/Stack followed by a cycle of M-Stack.

I was thinking in also trying Animal Pump, is it worth it during this cycle?

PmFcM · 02-17-2009, 05:22 PM

Any advise about Animal Pump?

Maybe it?s better to take some powder creatine since i will already swallow alot of pills

PmFcM · 02-19-2009, 05:49 PM

Ok, i?ve decided to go for Animal Pump also but since it will be so many pills to take i was thinking in chaging the AStack before bed and only take Pump before working out. Is it a better option?