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    Question your opinion on x-factor(yes searched)

    yes i searched forum and i don't feel like reading 10+ pages of logs. so heres my question... is X-Factor effective, worth the money, it okay to use with what age and up (i.e. designer steriouds 21+)? also, what are some things that can be stacked that work great but not to expensive. i was thinking bulk monohydrate creatine... thanks for your help.
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    x factor works for most(especially me) and is defenitely worth the money. research on the product is a must. im sure cal will hit you up with the faq link. creatine is great with it.
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    Originally Posted by joe81 View Post
    x factor works for most(especially me) and is defenitely worth the money. research on the product is a must. im sure cal will hit you up with the faq link. creatine is great with it.
    ive been searching the forum but i cant seem to find useful information about hte product. i read the info on the bb.com website but thats from the manufacturer or w/e.
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    make sure you do plenty research

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    Originally Posted by qualitywah View Post
    yes i searched forum and i don't feel like reading 10+ pages of logs. so heres my question... is X-Factor effective, worth the money, it okay to use with what age and up (i.e. designer steriouds 21+)? also, what are some things that can be stacked that work great but not to expensive. i was thinking bulk monohydrate creatine... thanks for your help.
    Quick notes to answer your questions (but you should still read the FAQ ):

    1. Yes, X-Factor is effective.

    2. It is okay to use for ages 18 and up, assuming you don't have any prior inflammatory conditions.

    3. Creatine goes great with X-Factor. I'm a big fan of monohydrate; cheap and effective. Some people also like to combine it with a natural testosterone booster (i.e. Activate Xtreme). This is so popular that there are actual products that license ArA that do something similar (Halodrol Liquigels, Animal Test, etc.). If you want a fairly basic stack, but something a little more than mono, look into something like SizeOn for your creatine needs.
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    x-factor is excellent
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    Originally Posted by qualitywah View Post
    yes i searched forum and i don't feel like reading 10+ pages of logs. so heres my question... is X-Factor effective, worth the money, it okay to use with what age and up (i.e. designer steriouds 21+)? also, what are some things that can be stacked that work great but not to expensive. i was thinking bulk monohydrate creatine... thanks for your help.
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    X Factor REVIEWS

    Originally Posted by Aeternitatis View Post
    My first cycle of X-Factor was early last year before I started work for MN. It was what convinced me that they were a good company. The log is somewhere on the board, but essentially my results were:

    --40-50lb increase on 6 rep squat
    --30lb increase on bench (6-10 reps)
    --30lb increase on bent over row
    --12 pounds gained
    --un-measured decrease in bodyfat
    --no problems with sleep
    --great energy and focus

    My next cycle occurred later that year lasted about 35 days (I was cutting) and went something like:

    --dramatic strength increases on all lifts (sorry, didn't record numbers) though not as big as my first cycle
    --gained approx 7lbs
    --lost approx 5% bodyfat (yes, in 35 days)
    --mild-moderate sleep disturbance when coupled with caffeine
    --improvement in endurance (first time I noticed this)

    Since then I have done 2 short term experimental XF logs that really don't apply. They were done in such a way as to asses the possibility of varous side-effects.

    And of course, as is expected, I had some serious muscle soreness going on.

    BTW, I might be starting a long term X-Factor log soon. Plan to cycle for 75-100 days and possibly even do a high dose of 1250mg. We'll see. I've already sarted loading X-factor and will know if I'm going to do the log by this coming Monday. If you want, I can come back in and post a link to it when/if it's up.
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    Originally Posted by bodebldr2000 View Post
    in terms of weight gains? put on about 10lbs
    Strenght gains? increased pretty well, still going up to.
    fat loss? I was bulking, so i shot up to about 230lbs
    bulking or cutting? bulking
    at wht cal intake?ex 500 under maintance I was eating a bit over 4000cal
    You that have tryed it,please gather your results here

    I was very satisfied with XF. I believe, IMO, it is more of a "bodybuilders" supplement rather than for a power lifter. I got nice size and strength gains but honestly feel that if I were to have done a higher rep (bodybuilding) routine, I would have put on more size, but I am after strength this time around.
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    Originally Posted by Atman View Post
    I got about three weeks left in my cycle, and it's worked pretty well. Nothing incredible, but to be fair I completely fell off my diet and training schedule during the 2nd week because I was sick. And since this stuff has been working increasingly better the last week and a half, I'll probably be a satisfied customer by the end of the cycle.

    - Approx. 4lbs of LM (which is decent for me)
    - Mild fat loss
    - Strength increases in shoulder presses, shrugs, deadlifts (bench remains stagnant though)
    - DOMS last two weeks
    - Some acne
    - Bad insomnia when taking a pill before bed
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    Originally Posted by acecombact1

    Measurement______Start_______End______Change
    Body Weight_______204.5______210______+ 5.5lbs
    Body Fat__________n/a________n/a______- .5%
    Bench Press_______205 / 8_____225 / 8___+ 20lbs
    Squat____________265 / 6_____275 / 10__+ 10lbs & 4 reps
    Deadlift__________180 /6-8___ 205 / 6-8_ + 25lbs

    Truncated summary: “…Strength gains were very visible on all my lifts… Endurance was most significant gain from this experiment. I was able to go longer in the gym without being tired… I didn’t notice much of sides [effects]… My face skin became oily, other parts in the body the skin was dry and rough. I also noticed my joints were dryer, and noticed pain in my wrist and elbow. But I reduced dose of X-factor during last week, and added some MSM, and I was good after that. Bottom line: X-factor is very decent non-hormonal anabolic, and I think it has a lot of potential…”
    Originally Posted by animalfan

    Measurement_________Start______End________Change
    Body Weight__________165_______172________+ 7lbs (+ 9.5 lbs Lean Mass)
    Body Fat_____________11%_______9.5%______- 1.5%
    Incline Bench__________-__________-_________+ 25 lbs & reps
    Squat________________-__________-_________+ 40 lbs & reps

    Truncated summary: “Body weight up to 172 this morning, up around 7 pounds. Bodyfat decreased by 1.5% total…I had raised calories up about 4/500 a day, to 33/3400. I had strength increases on all lifts; I was focused on bringing up my incline bench and squat. Squat is up 40 pounds, incline bench is up 25, all for reps… The pumps that I had noticed seemed to stick around till now, and the soreness I had in the beginning of the trial hasn't been an issue for the past 2/3 weeks. I think I had gotten used to it. Acne was an issue for me at the beginning for the cycle, but added vitamin b6 and using oxy pads quite often took care of that. I am very satisfied with this product. I'll surely be buying another run of it later in the year.”
    Originally Posted by bigasssnowman

    Measurement__________Start_____End_____Change
    Body Weight___________207______210_____+ 3lbs (+ 9.2 lbs Lean Mass)
    Body Fat______________16.6%____13.6%___- 3%
    Dead Lift (still leg)______-_________-_______+ 15 lbs
    Incline Bench _________-__________-_______+ 20 lbs
    Lat Pull Downs_________-_________-_______+ 20 lbs
    Bent Over Rows________-_________-_______+ 15 lbs
    Shoulder Press_________-_________-_______+ 10 lbs
    DB Skull Crushers_______-_________-_______+ 5 lbs

    “Pumps have been unreal, better then any no2 I have taken. In October I was able to squat 238lbs 25 times. I just tried to get 225 as many times as I could, and at 12 my pump was so big and intense that I could not do anymore. My legs get a little more sore then normal. Other then that the soreness only lasts about 1 day longer then normal. Strength: is up on everything but legs.. (hurt my knee). Bi's are about the same. Right now I’m just trying to maintain their size and not get them any bigger. Overall I would say this product is working pretty damn good, and I wish I could say that for some of the other **** I’ve wasted $ on.”
    Originally Posted by EME
    (Cutting Cycle/Contest Prep)

    Measurement___________Start__________End_____Chang e
    Body Weight ___________176___________163_____- 13 lbs
    Lean Body Mass_________155.59lbs______151.92___- 3.67 lbs (mostly water)
    Body Fat_______________11.6%_________6.8%____- 4.8%

    Truncated summary: “The goal of my training during this phase was to cut toward competition condition, while maintaining as much lean muscle as possible… I believe I successfully achieved my goal of cutting fat and maintaining muscle during the past 50 days, and I believe that X-Factor was a significant component in my success. The only side effect I noticed was increased soreness during the first few weeks. However, this soreness either went away, or I became more used to it, because I did not notice it after about week 3. I will definitely include X-Factor as part of my cutting programs in the future. I definitely feel it helped me maintain Lean Body Mass while dropping fat. I am also looking forward to including X-Factor as part of my mass building program in the off season

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    Originally Posted by Mountaineer

    Measurement________Start________End_______Change
    Body Weight_________217_________223_______+ 6lbs
    Body Fat ___________n/a__________n/a_______nc
    Strength____________-____________-_________Significant Increases

    Truncated summary: ?€œ?€?I ended the cycle at a total of only 42 days on X-factor due to some nagging shoulder pain. I felt that I had to give my body a break for a week or two to prevent further injury. This is an on going problem that has plagued me since I've started lifting weights. I don't believe it is any way related to the X-factor?€? Total weight gain at about 6 pounds. For me this is quite good. I do feel that this would have been more had I increased my calories?€? Overall I would give this product my thumbs up. I think this product helped me increase strength more than anything?€? I will definitely use it again. I feel to get the most from it you have to eat more calories to get the most from it. I do not know if the increased caloric demand is from protein synthesis or what but I do feel it is definitely there
    Measurement________Start_____End______Change
    Body Weight_________193______204______+ 11 lbs
    Body Fat____________n/a______n/a_______n/a
    Strength____________-________-_________Significant Increases

    Truncated summary: ?€œOverall my results have been really satisfactory. Remember how I started with my bodyweight of 193lbs? - Well after eight weeks I now weigh 204lbs. - that's an 11 lb increase. My wife and kids have really noticed my muscle size development. I love it. Every workout I did there was an increase in strength. And all I did was increase my intake of protein- whatever I could find - protein shake, chicken sandwich, tuna, etc. Needless to say, my workout intensity really improved. Even now, I can still feel the flu-like soreness on my muscles after working out. And the muscle pump is really great?€? I'll probably cycle off for a month and then resume for another eight weeks
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    Originally Posted by Zackattach43

    Measurement____________Start__________End_______Ch ange
    Body Weight_____________191___________196_______+ 5 lbs (+6.53 lbs Lean Mass)
    Body Fat________________14.9%_________13.7%_____- .8% (increased abdominal visibility)
    Chest___________________46?€?___________46.5?€?___ ____ + .5?€? (more developed and ripped)
    Waist__________________35.75?€?__________35?€?____ ____ - .75?€?
    Forearms_______________12.5?€?___________13?€?+___ ____ .5?€? (new exercises also started)
    Arms___________________15.5?€?___________15.75?€?_ ____ _+ .25?€? (more triceps mass)
    Calves__________________15?€?_____________15.25?€? ____ __+ .25?€?
    Quads__________________24.5?€?____________24.5?€?_ ____ __n/c ?€“ groin injury
    Bench________________185 / 7 reps________225 / 5______significant increase
    Lat Pulldowns___________120 / 8___________150 / 6______significant increase
    Pull ups__________________13______________22__________+ 9 reps
    Squats_________________225 / 6____________n/c_________injury
    Bend over calf raises_____320 / 15__________360 / 15______+ 40 lbs
    Seated Smith Raises______105 / 8___________125 / 4_______n/a

    Truncated summary: Other lifts were about the same; those are the ones with the major differences. In not a single lift did anything go down. I never experienced any pumps the people were talking about; only pumps were in my arms as usual. It did help increase in my strength, and also seemed to help with fat loss - more so towards my image in the mirror than in the actual numbers itself. My girlfriend noticed a tremendous increase in my size and thought I needed to upgrade my polo shirt sizes even though she dug the sleeves looking like there were about to rip. My pecs are more finely tuned conditioned wise, especially the outer and have a more ideal shape. My forearm size went up mostly due to the new exercises introduced at the beginning of this log when I started having 2 workout partners (aka the ego contest or pissing contest). Drawbacks: 2nd week I experienced some burps that seemed like X factor, only happened after the morning dose but subsided after a couple days. Acne did increases slightly on my back. It cooled off but still there was a slight increase. Can?€™t take pain meds, there was about 4 times I had a real bad headache and just pulled through it without the pain meds. I limited my consumption of Omega 3s. Only consumption was olive oil when I bake my chicken or to coat my steaks before cooking. This is not really a drawback, but for most of us it might be. I am used to creatine/NO products and these are products I can "feel" working or whatever. This is one product that requires patience and evaluations in the mirror each week to properly assess the progress.
    Originally Posted by SixAbs

    Measurement____________Start____________End_______ __Change
    Body Weight_____________180_____________187_________+ 7 lbs (7.9 lbs Lean mass)
    Body Fat_________________-_______________-___________- .5%
    Squat___________________-________________-___________+ 30 lbs
    Deadlift__________________-_______________-____________+ 20 lbs
    Beanch__________________-________________-___________n/c
    Pullups___________________-_______________-____________+ 10 lbs
    Curls____________________-________________-____________+ 3 reps
    Triceps Extensions_________-________________-____________+ 10 lbs

    Truncated summary: ?€œNo increased acne. Pumps during workouts were amazing, freaking amazing. BTW what?€™s most amazing is that for most of this cycle I was eating maintenance calories. Good product, and I recommend it. So far all the Molecular Nutrition products I?€™ve used, I?€™ve liked. Thanks William for the opportunity and kick ass results!
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    pu12en12g’s X Factor Review

    Here is my trial summary. It should be noted that I was stacking X-Factor with a absolute BARE MINIMUM of other supplementation, in order to objectively review the results FROM X-FACTOR ALONE... in my opinion, the average user could expect MUCH better results if stacking X-Factor with other quality supplements / cell volumizers.. etc..

    A few key things about X-Factor... I recommend it for both cutting AND bulking... "bodybuilders", "athletes", AND "powerlifters"... BUT I would wait until you hit a plateau in your progress / training, and I would buy 2-3 bottles.. minimum for best results.

    Size Gains:

    BEFORE Measurements
    Weight: 236

    Neck: 16.5
    Chest: 44
    Bi unflexed: 16.5
    Bi flexed: 17.5
    Forearms: 13.5
    Waist: 36
    Quads: 25.5
    Calves: 17

    AFTER Measurements
    Weight: 243-245 (gained 7-9 lbs)

    Neck: 16.5
    Chest: 45.5 (gained 1.5 inches)
    Bi unflexed: 17 (gained .5 inch)
    Bi flexed: 17.75 (gained .25 inch)
    Forearms: 13.75 (gained .25 inch)
    Waist: 35.5 (lost .5 inches while bulking ! !)
    Quads: 26.5 (gained 1 inch)
    Calves: 17.5 (gained .5 inch)

    STRENGTH GAINS:

    Deadlift: Up 40lbs for reps

    DB Shoulder Press: Up at least 4 reps for sets

    BB Military Press: Up 4-6 reps for sets

    Squats: Up 10 reps for sets but no accurate 1RM

    Seated Leg Curls: Up 25+lbs

    Abs: Up 15lbs and up 5-10 reps for sets

    Calves: Up 90+ lbs for reps.... very noticable improvement, peak and vascularity.

    Legpress: Up 100lb+ for reps...very noticable improvement / definition

    Grip: Improved noticably during the beginning of the cycle.


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    STACKING POSSIBILITIES

    Here are some popular stacking combinations and a few links to upcoming logs? feel free to follow along!!!

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    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=6866721
    Sapper
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    Ncangey

    X Factor and Leviathan Reloaded2

    robes1 FEMALE tester
    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...ight=+x+factor
    jamier11
    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...light=x+factor

    Mass FX and X Factor!!!

    Babolat06
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    Avant Research will sponsor 3 Napalm + X Factor

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    Designer Supplements will sponsor 3 X Factor + Lean Xtreme

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    Here are some popular logging combinations and a few links to the logs:




    X Factor FAQ
    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2281231

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    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...&highlight=FAQ

    Activate Xtreme FAQ
    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=3618041

    RPM FAQ
    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...1#post41854561


    The Rest of the FAQs
    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=4131083



    Stack Combos:

    1) X Factor either standalone or with a free T-booster is popular... check out the quoted post above for other great ideas.

    2) All-in-one ArA products like Animal Test and HLGs by Gaspari are great products if you're looking to add more to your ArA supplementation (X Factor standalone).

    Animal Test FAQ
    http://www.animalpak.com/html/articl...ils.cfm?ID=386

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    I ran a very successful X-Factor cycle, I have a review on here somewhere....I will definitely be using it again in the future
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    Yes, it can be very effective. If your diet and training are on par, it's very unlikely that you won't see any muscle gains or fat loss. Without changing my diet, I lose a pound or two of fat at first so I really need to crank my calories up otherwise I start feeling a hit to my ego lol

    If I eat between 500-800 calories above what I normally eat, I pound on a few very welcomed pounds of muscle. It may sound modest, but to lose a couple pounds of fat and gain a few pounds of muscle without any steroidal compounds or post-cycle loss is pretty incredible. I've used it while I was still gaining, as well as during a plateau and I gained some always welcomed muscle. Absolutely no complaints here.

    Yes, I did rep for MN at one point too but I'm not getting compensation to lie about X-Factor. These are my honest thoughts. The MN thugs could piss me off left, right and center and I'd still say nice things about XF
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    Yes, I did rep for MN at one point too but I'm not getting compensation to lie about X-Factor. These are my honest thoughts. The MN thugs could piss me off left, right and center and I'd still say nice things about XF
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    anyone know of any sales going on for x-factor so that i could price match with bb.com? i'd like to give it a try but a 100 bucks for 50 days is pretty pricey for one supp...
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    Originally Posted by browndustin View Post
    Yes, it can be very effective. If your diet and training are on par, it's very unlikely that you won't see any muscle gains or fat loss. Without changing my diet, I lose a pound or two of fat at first so I really need to crank my calories up otherwise I start feeling a hit to my ego lol

    If I eat between 500-800 calories above what I normally eat, I pound on a few very welcomed pounds of muscle. It may sound modest, but to lose a couple pounds of fat and gain a few pounds of muscle without any steroidal compounds or post-cycle loss is pretty incredible. I've used it while I was still gaining, as well as during a plateau and I gained some always welcomed muscle. Absolutely no complaints here.

    Yes, I did rep for MN at one point too but I'm not getting compensation to lie about X-Factor. These are my honest thoughts. The MN thugs could piss me off left, right and center and I'd still say nice things about XF

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    wow thanks for all the information guys. very very helpful. there should be a sticky with all the faqs in it.
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    just htought id update: im on my 2nd cycle and i love this stuff!!!!!
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    Originally Posted by qualitywah View Post
    just htought id update: im on my 2nd cycle and i love this stuff!!!!!
    I'm glad you like it!!!!!
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    strong old bump! I cant wait im going to start on thursday after i use up the last of these Omegas.

    ima be eating alot of chicken liver (lbs a day) and egg yolks(10 ++) for fat and protein both natural sources of ARA for a double wammy with X-Factor. Hope the gains are good, adding in T-Bol aswell(9 caps day) for almost the whole cycle aswell muhaha.
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    Im going to be starting a run of X-Factor stacked with Neogenix Regenesen. Should be an incredible stack with huge results.
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    Originally Posted by Oddball8945 View Post
    strong old bump! I cant wait im going to start on thursday after i use up the last of these Omegas.

    ima be eating alot of chicken liver (lbs a day) and egg yolks(10 ++) for fat and protein both natural sources of ARA for a double wammy with X-Factor. Hope the gains are good, adding in T-Bol aswell(9 caps day) for almost the whole cycle aswell muhaha.
    That should be fun! Let us know how it goes!
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