yes i searched forum and i don't feel like reading 10+ pages of logs. so heres my question... is X-Factor effective, worth the money, it okay to use with what age and up (i.e. designer steriouds 21+)? also, what are some things that can be stacked that work great but not to expensive. i was thinking bulk monohydrate creatine... thanks for your help.
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03-28-2008, 07:14 AM #10
Quick notes to answer your questions (but you should still read the FAQ ):
1. Yes, X-Factor is effective.
2. It is okay to use for ages 18 and up, assuming you don't have any prior inflammatory conditions.
3. Creatine goes great with X-Factor. I'm a big fan of monohydrate; cheap and effective. Some people also like to combine it with a natural testosterone booster (i.e. Activate Xtreme). This is so popular that there are actual products that license ArA that do something similar (Halodrol Liquigels, Animal Test, etc.). If you want a fairly basic stack, but something a little more than mono, look into something like SizeOn for your creatine needs.*SCC*
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X Factor REVIEWS
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpo...59&postcount=5
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http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpo...3&postcount=48
Originally Posted by acecombact1
Measurement______Start_______End______Change
Body Weight_______204.5______210______+ 5.5lbs
Body Fat__________n/a________n/a______- .5%
Bench Press_______205 / 8_____225 / 8___+ 20lbs
Squat____________265 / 6_____275 / 10__+ 10lbs & 4 reps
Deadlift__________180 /6-8___ 205 / 6-8_ + 25lbs
Truncated summary: “…Strength gains were very visible on all my lifts… Endurance was most significant gain from this experiment. I was able to go longer in the gym without being tired… I didn’t notice much of sides [effects]… My face skin became oily, other parts in the body the skin was dry and rough. I also noticed my joints were dryer, and noticed pain in my wrist and elbow. But I reduced dose of X-factor during last week, and added some MSM, and I was good after that. Bottom line: X-factor is very decent non-hormonal anabolic, and I think it has a lot of potential…”Originally Posted by animalfan
Measurement_________Start______End________Change
Body Weight__________165_______172________+ 7lbs (+ 9.5 lbs Lean Mass)
Body Fat_____________11%_______9.5%______- 1.5%
Incline Bench__________-__________-_________+ 25 lbs & reps
Squat________________-__________-_________+ 40 lbs & reps
Truncated summary: “Body weight up to 172 this morning, up around 7 pounds. Bodyfat decreased by 1.5% total…I had raised calories up about 4/500 a day, to 33/3400. I had strength increases on all lifts; I was focused on bringing up my incline bench and squat. Squat is up 40 pounds, incline bench is up 25, all for reps… The pumps that I had noticed seemed to stick around till now, and the soreness I had in the beginning of the trial hasn't been an issue for the past 2/3 weeks. I think I had gotten used to it. Acne was an issue for me at the beginning for the cycle, but added vitamin b6 and using oxy pads quite often took care of that. I am very satisfied with this product. I'll surely be buying another run of it later in the year.”Originally Posted by bigasssnowman
Measurement__________Start_____End_____Change
Body Weight___________207______210_____+ 3lbs (+ 9.2 lbs Lean Mass)
Body Fat______________16.6%____13.6%___- 3%
Dead Lift (still leg)______-_________-_______+ 15 lbs
Incline Bench _________-__________-_______+ 20 lbs
Lat Pull Downs_________-_________-_______+ 20 lbs
Bent Over Rows________-_________-_______+ 15 lbs
Shoulder Press_________-_________-_______+ 10 lbs
DB Skull Crushers_______-_________-_______+ 5 lbs
“Pumps have been unreal, better then any no2 I have taken. In October I was able to squat 238lbs 25 times. I just tried to get 225 as many times as I could, and at 12 my pump was so big and intense that I could not do anymore. My legs get a little more sore then normal. Other then that the soreness only lasts about 1 day longer then normal. Strength: is up on everything but legs.. (hurt my knee). Bi's are about the same. Right now I’m just trying to maintain their size and not get them any bigger. Overall I would say this product is working pretty damn good, and I wish I could say that for some of the other **** I’ve wasted $ on.”Originally Posted by EME
(Cutting Cycle/Contest Prep)
Measurement___________Start__________End_____Chang e
Body Weight ___________176___________163_____- 13 lbs
Lean Body Mass_________155.59lbs______151.92___- 3.67 lbs (mostly water)
Body Fat_______________11.6%_________6.8%____- 4.8%
Truncated summary: “The goal of my training during this phase was to cut toward competition condition, while maintaining as much lean muscle as possible… I believe I successfully achieved my goal of cutting fat and maintaining muscle during the past 50 days, and I believe that X-Factor was a significant component in my success. The only side effect I noticed was increased soreness during the first few weeks. However, this soreness either went away, or I became more used to it, because I did not notice it after about week 3. I will definitely include X-Factor as part of my cutting programs in the future. I definitely feel it helped me maintain Lean Body Mass while dropping fat. I am also looking forward to including X-Factor as part of my mass building program in the off seasonTeam HALEO
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03-28-2008, 09:31 AM #14Originally Posted by Mountaineer
Measurement________Start________End_______Change
Body Weight_________217_________223_______+ 6lbs
Body Fat ___________n/a__________n/a_______nc
Strength____________-____________-_________Significant Increases
Truncated summary: ?€œ?€?I ended the cycle at a total of only 42 days on X-factor due to some nagging shoulder pain. I felt that I had to give my body a break for a week or two to prevent further injury. This is an on going problem that has plagued me since I've started lifting weights. I don't believe it is any way related to the X-factor?€? Total weight gain at about 6 pounds. For me this is quite good. I do feel that this would have been more had I increased my calories?€? Overall I would give this product my thumbs up. I think this product helped me increase strength more than anything?€? I will definitely use it again. I feel to get the most from it you have to eat more calories to get the most from it. I do not know if the increased caloric demand is from protein synthesis or what but I do feel it is definitely thereMeasurement________Start_____End______Change
Body Weight_________193______204______+ 11 lbs
Body Fat____________n/a______n/a_______n/a
Strength____________-________-_________Significant Increases
Truncated summary: ?€œOverall my results have been really satisfactory. Remember how I started with my bodyweight of 193lbs? - Well after eight weeks I now weigh 204lbs. - that's an 11 lb increase. My wife and kids have really noticed my muscle size development. I love it. Every workout I did there was an increase in strength. And all I did was increase my intake of protein- whatever I could find - protein shake, chicken sandwich, tuna, etc. Needless to say, my workout intensity really improved. Even now, I can still feel the flu-like soreness on my muscles after working out. And the muscle pump is really great?€? I'll probably cycle off for a month and then resume for another eight weeks
Originally Posted by Zackattach43
Measurement____________Start__________End_______Ch ange
Body Weight_____________191___________196_______+ 5 lbs (+6.53 lbs Lean Mass)
Body Fat________________14.9%_________13.7%_____- .8% (increased abdominal visibility)
Chest___________________46?€?___________46.5?€?___ ____ + .5?€? (more developed and ripped)
Waist__________________35.75?€?__________35?€?____ ____ - .75?€?
Forearms_______________12.5?€?___________13?€?+___ ____ .5?€? (new exercises also started)
Arms___________________15.5?€?___________15.75?€?_ ____ _+ .25?€? (more triceps mass)
Calves__________________15?€?_____________15.25?€? ____ __+ .25?€?
Quads__________________24.5?€?____________24.5?€?_ ____ __n/c ?€“ groin injury
Bench________________185 / 7 reps________225 / 5______significant increase
Lat Pulldowns___________120 / 8___________150 / 6______significant increase
Pull ups__________________13______________22__________+ 9 reps
Squats_________________225 / 6____________n/c_________injury
Bend over calf raises_____320 / 15__________360 / 15______+ 40 lbs
Seated Smith Raises______105 / 8___________125 / 4_______n/a
Truncated summary: Other lifts were about the same; those are the ones with the major differences. In not a single lift did anything go down. I never experienced any pumps the people were talking about; only pumps were in my arms as usual. It did help increase in my strength, and also seemed to help with fat loss - more so towards my image in the mirror than in the actual numbers itself. My girlfriend noticed a tremendous increase in my size and thought I needed to upgrade my polo shirt sizes even though she dug the sleeves looking like there were about to rip. My pecs are more finely tuned conditioned wise, especially the outer and have a more ideal shape. My forearm size went up mostly due to the new exercises introduced at the beginning of this log when I started having 2 workout partners (aka the ego contest or pissing contest). Drawbacks: 2nd week I experienced some burps that seemed like X factor, only happened after the morning dose but subsided after a couple days. Acne did increases slightly on my back. It cooled off but still there was a slight increase. Can?€™t take pain meds, there was about 4 times I had a real bad headache and just pulled through it without the pain meds. I limited my consumption of Omega 3s. Only consumption was olive oil when I bake my chicken or to coat my steaks before cooking. This is not really a drawback, but for most of us it might be. I am used to creatine/NO products and these are products I can "feel" working or whatever. This is one product that requires patience and evaluations in the mirror each week to properly assess the progress.Originally Posted by SixAbs
Measurement____________Start____________End_______ __Change
Body Weight_____________180_____________187_________+ 7 lbs (7.9 lbs Lean mass)
Body Fat_________________-_______________-___________- .5%
Squat___________________-________________-___________+ 30 lbs
Deadlift__________________-_______________-____________+ 20 lbs
Beanch__________________-________________-___________n/c
Pullups___________________-_______________-____________+ 10 lbs
Curls____________________-________________-____________+ 3 reps
Triceps Extensions_________-________________-____________+ 10 lbs
Truncated summary: ?€œNo increased acne. Pumps during workouts were amazing, freaking amazing. BTW what?€™s most amazing is that for most of this cycle I was eating maintenance calories. Good product, and I recommend it. So far all the Molecular Nutrition products I?€™ve used, I?€™ve liked. Thanks William for the opportunity and kick ass results!
pu12en12g’s X Factor Review
Here is my trial summary. It should be noted that I was stacking X-Factor with a absolute BARE MINIMUM of other supplementation, in order to objectively review the results FROM X-FACTOR ALONE... in my opinion, the average user could expect MUCH better results if stacking X-Factor with other quality supplements / cell volumizers.. etc..
A few key things about X-Factor... I recommend it for both cutting AND bulking... "bodybuilders", "athletes", AND "powerlifters"... BUT I would wait until you hit a plateau in your progress / training, and I would buy 2-3 bottles.. minimum for best results.
Size Gains:
BEFORE Measurements
Weight: 236
Neck: 16.5
Chest: 44
Bi unflexed: 16.5
Bi flexed: 17.5
Forearms: 13.5
Waist: 36
Quads: 25.5
Calves: 17
AFTER Measurements
Weight: 243-245 (gained 7-9 lbs)
Neck: 16.5
Chest: 45.5 (gained 1.5 inches)
Bi unflexed: 17 (gained .5 inch)
Bi flexed: 17.75 (gained .25 inch)
Forearms: 13.75 (gained .25 inch)
Waist: 35.5 (lost .5 inches while bulking ! !)
Quads: 26.5 (gained 1 inch)
Calves: 17.5 (gained .5 inch)
STRENGTH GAINS:
Deadlift: Up 40lbs for reps
DB Shoulder Press: Up at least 4 reps for sets
BB Military Press: Up 4-6 reps for sets
Squats: Up 10 reps for sets but no accurate 1RM
Seated Leg Curls: Up 25+lbs
Abs: Up 15lbs and up 5-10 reps for sets
Calves: Up 90+ lbs for reps.... very noticable improvement, peak and vascularity.
Legpress: Up 100lb+ for reps...very noticable improvement / definition
Grip: Improved noticably during the beginning of the cycle.
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03-28-2008, 09:33 AM #15
STACKING POSSIBILITIES
Here are some popular stacking combinations and a few links to upcoming logs? feel free to follow along!!!
Applied Nutriceuticals will sponsor 5 - 10 X-Factor + RPM + Drive
Little Rambo
Nuclear Arms
2425
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=6866721
Sapper
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=6862641
Ncangey
X Factor and Leviathan Reloaded2
robes1 FEMALE tester
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...ight=+x+factor
jamier11
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...light=x+factor
Mass FX and X Factor!!!
Babolat06
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...ight=+x+factor
Avant Research will sponsor 3 Napalm + X Factor
Punksurfer024
Designer Supplements will sponsor 3 X Factor + Lean Xtreme
Dirty Dean
Konvicted
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post121510121
Here are some popular logging combinations and a few links to the logs:
X Factor FAQ
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2281231
Hyperdrol FAQ
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...&highlight=FAQ
Activate Xtreme FAQ
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=3618041
RPM FAQ
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...1#post41854561
The Rest of the FAQs
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=4131083
Stack Combos:
1) X Factor either standalone or with a free T-booster is popular... check out the quoted post above for other great ideas.
2) All-in-one ArA products like Animal Test and HLGs by Gaspari are great products if you're looking to add more to your ArA supplementation (X Factor standalone).
Animal Test FAQ
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Joey - 10/16/2011
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03-28-2008, 09:34 AM #16
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I ran a very successful X-Factor cycle, I have a review on here somewhere....I will definitely be using it again in the future
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03-28-2008, 09:41 AM #17
Yes, it can be very effective. If your diet and training are on par, it's very unlikely that you won't see any muscle gains or fat loss. Without changing my diet, I lose a pound or two of fat at first so I really need to crank my calories up otherwise I start feeling a hit to my ego lol
If I eat between 500-800 calories above what I normally eat, I pound on a few very welcomed pounds of muscle. It may sound modest, but to lose a couple pounds of fat and gain a few pounds of muscle without any steroidal compounds or post-cycle loss is pretty incredible. I've used it while I was still gaining, as well as during a plateau and I gained some always welcomed muscle. Absolutely no complaints here.
Yes, I did rep for MN at one point too but I'm not getting compensation to lie about X-Factor. These are my honest thoughts. The MN thugs could piss me off left, right and center and I'd still say nice things about XF
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strong old bump! I cant wait im going to start on thursday after i use up the last of these Omegas.
ima be eating alot of chicken liver (lbs a day) and egg yolks(10 ++) for fat and protein both natural sources of ARA for a double wammy with X-Factor. Hope the gains are good, adding in T-Bol aswell(9 caps day) for almost the whole cycle aswell muhaha.Deport ALL Illegal Aliens
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