Shoudl I try phenibut? I've suffer from extreme OCD, depresion and anxiety for the past 5-6 years. Lately its been really really bad. Like feeling completely hopeless bad. Exceries helps but i might have hernia and im awaiting results.
Now is phenibut safe enough that the crash won't make me want to kill myself or anthing serious? To give you an example of my worst day, i would feel Hopeless and obessivly worried about my health. I woudl sit on th ecomp for 9-12 hours googling over if i have a harmful health condition and simply feeling hopeless.
Is phenibut even a good idea?
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08-03-2008, 05:12 PM #1Registered User
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I have alot of emotional problems....
"Nothing is more painful to the human mind than, after the feelings have been worked up by a quick succession of events, the dead calmness of inaction and certainity which follows and deprives the soul both of hope and fear." - Mary Shelly
"Self-pity is easily the most destructive of the nonpharmaceutical narcotics; it is addictive, gives momentary pleasure and separates the victim from reality." - John W. Gardner
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08-03-2008, 05:14 PM #2Registered User
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NO!
really, stay far away. Withdrawal would make your current situation that much worse. Talk to your doc about some medsRealize that anyone with an affiliation to a supplement company in their signature has ulterior motives when making recommendations. They're primarily concerned with pushing their products. Not your safety or what's best for you.
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I'm actually trying to thoughen up cuz i was on meds for 5 years. Been off for about 5-6months.Originally Posted by Rodzilla
the end will come one day ! meds only hide the problem and i want to stay away cuz one day i woudl like to serve my country or my community"Nothing is more painful to the human mind than, after the feelings have been worked up by a quick succession of events, the dead calmness of inaction and certainity which follows and deprives the soul both of hope and fear." - Mary Shelly
"Self-pity is easily the most destructive of the nonpharmaceutical narcotics; it is addictive, gives momentary pleasure and separates the victim from reality." - John W. Gardner
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08-03-2008, 05:16 PM #4Registered User
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I pmed you, there are a few things I don't want to talk about so openly because of the ignorance and stigma.
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08-03-2008, 05:18 PM #5
That stuff will make you worse. Run a search on Phenibut withdrawal.
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08-03-2008, 05:26 PM #6Registered User
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what about RHosidla rose? that was the other one i was looking at.
"Nothing is more painful to the human mind than, after the feelings have been worked up by a quick succession of events, the dead calmness of inaction and certainity which follows and deprives the soul both of hope and fear." - Mary Shelly
"Self-pity is easily the most destructive of the nonpharmaceutical narcotics; it is addictive, gives momentary pleasure and separates the victim from reality." - John W. Gardner
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08-03-2008, 06:49 PM #7Hey GUUUUUUMBA
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Rhodiola Rosea is one hell of an adaptogen. A super herb! .. Give it a try IMO... It acts as an anti-anxiety as well..Originally Posted by importrev
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08-03-2008, 06:52 PM #8Registered User
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thanks. Gonna oder in bulkOriginally Posted by iannotti
"Nothing is more painful to the human mind than, after the feelings have been worked up by a quick succession of events, the dead calmness of inaction and certainity which follows and deprives the soul both of hope and fear." - Mary Shelly
"Self-pity is easily the most destructive of the nonpharmaceutical narcotics; it is addictive, gives momentary pleasure and separates the victim from reality." - John W. Gardner
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08-03-2008, 06:58 PM #9Registered User
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keep your head up man. things will be better, just keep working hard.
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08-03-2008, 07:00 PM #10Registered User
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thanks dudeOriginally Posted by bjoh17
"Nothing is more painful to the human mind than, after the feelings have been worked up by a quick succession of events, the dead calmness of inaction and certainity which follows and deprives the soul both of hope and fear." - Mary Shelly
"Self-pity is easily the most destructive of the nonpharmaceutical narcotics; it is addictive, gives momentary pleasure and separates the victim from reality." - John W. Gardner
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08-03-2008, 07:01 PM #11STFU I'm busy.
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why not talk with a doctor?
Cannabis and synthetic supplements
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08-03-2008, 09:54 PM #12Registered User
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Bro, good luck to you. I would PM you, but I have a strange feeling someone already PM'ed you what to take.
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08-03-2008, 10:32 PM #13Registered User
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Because most doctors are paid handsomely to push toxic prescriptions on people when there are way better alternatives.Originally Posted by SPACECLOWN
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08-03-2008, 10:40 PM #14The White Rampage
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Is this due to the fact you guise don't have free health care??Originally Posted by DGreekStallion
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No. Because doctors are freaking brainwashed. Most scripts are toxic for the body, yet they are still used. How often do you hear recalls for people dying from excessive side effects?Originally Posted by Pure Dynamite
Is this due to the fact you guise don't have free health care??
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08-03-2008, 10:46 PM #16x2 reps on rechargeOriginally Posted by DGreekStallion
which meds were u on?
phenibut has withdrawal symptoms and ur body gets used to it and it loses effects drastically after just a few doses
the first dose will make u feel like ur on a cloud tho lol
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Hmm. I've taken a lot of stuff. Painkillers, antibiotics, neurotropics, you name it.Originally Posted by gotDOMS
I just hate the Pharmaceutical industry. Biggest scam in history.
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08-03-2008, 11:26 PM #18Monster Hunter
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To save everyone the trouble of reading that repetitive book, let me summarize the whole thing into one sentence: IT'S ALMOST ALWAYS ABOUT THE MONEY.Originally Posted by DGreekStallion
It's a fairly good read, but I find that 3/4 of the book, he's saying the same thing over and over and over. Totally unnecessary. I bought that book to learn about these so called natural cures, but instead he rants on and on and on about the pharmaceutical crooks.
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Seek real help. Forums have their limitations.
best of luck buddy
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08-03-2008, 11:41 PM #20Registered User
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DG greek, anti-depressants are very good things for people who need them
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08-03-2008, 11:49 PM #21yes and no. if you have a chemical imbalance that causes you to feel depressed or anxious beyond a "normal" level, then medications can help. that's what they're for. unfortunately, there is still more about these things that we don't know than things that we know, so the dosage and type is still a trial and error process for a lot of doctors and patients. once the sweet spot is found, you can live a "normal", healthy life. you just have to have patience through this trial and error process.Originally Posted by importrev
best of luck to you.
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i suffer from stress related anxiety from time to time, but happily i've found many ways to deal with it, i noticed the fitter you are the easier it is to deal with anxiety becuase it reduces your resting pulse and slows your breathing which are two big symptoms of almost all anxiety disorders.Originally Posted by importrev
the only prescription meds i've tried are ****** (diazepam), mogadon (nitrazepam) and seroquel.
****** is really good, it relaxes my muscles and slows my breathing rate and its also less addictive than other anxiety meds.
seroquel and mogadon i've tried too but thier not anxiety meds thier sedatives/sleeping pills, seroquel is better becuase mogadon is very addictive.
there are other meds for anxiety but i wouldn't recomend them, one being "plaxil" and the other "*****", plaxil has a common side effect of lowering sex drive and also even weight gain and is usually prescribed for OCD type anxiety, ***** is usually prescribed for social anxiety but its downside is it can be pretty addictive for alot of people.
as for natural stuff i haven't tried phenibut yet so i cant suggest that yet,
try kava kava in tea and or capsule but tea is definatly best, the effects are very simular to alcohol.
passionflower tea,5-htp and damiana tea are also amazing.
passionflower is simular to chamomile but a fair bit stronger, 5-htp is probably the best natural anti-depressant on the market, damiana tea is amazing it has very simular effects to smoking marijuana but in my opinion alot safer since its a tea, it gives me a clear head feeling and slows my breathing and the effects last for about 3 hours.Last edited by adrenalin18stud; 08-04-2008 at 12:07 AM.
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08-04-2008, 12:12 AM #23o my bad i meant to ask the OP wat meds he was onOriginally Posted by DGreekStallion
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08-04-2008, 04:50 AM #24Registered User
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I have been on Paxil fr 5 years and even after being 6months off, I sitll have sexual sides (unable to experience climax...talk about a deperssing side lol)....althrough rare, it could be pernament. Most people suffer with it for a good 2-3 years after taking the meds, labeling the problem persistant. Paxil is the worst, which is what I took. this man is right. meds arent fun. I wish i could go back in time, take 5htp, go get therapy, realize what i realize now.Originally Posted by DGreekStallion
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"Self-pity is easily the most destructive of the nonpharmaceutical narcotics; it is addictive, gives momentary pleasure and separates the victim from reality." - John W. Gardner
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08-04-2008, 05:32 AM #25Darth Beer
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Just take what you have learned and apply it now. No need look back and apply the "what if's". That could make things worse. Sorry to hear about the sides you are having. Also, props to you for wanting to find the problem. To many people in our society relie on the magic pill theory and do not want to admit what the cause is. Keep your head up and your thoughts positive and you will pull through with flying colors.Originally Posted by importrev
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bro i feel for ya, i went through a really really bad patch about a year ago. extreme anixety, depression, and the works and before that i went through it for about 4 years on and off. i'm greatful for everyday now that i'm over it. just try to keep looking at the brighter stuff in life.
it's funny you say the thing about health because that is what inspired me to learn about nutrition and bodybuilding. hang out on here for a while and search around the web for information about food and being healthy. soon enough you will start to feel confident about your health. when you're searching up about conditions, dont take all the stuff on the net too seriously. i'm sure what you're going through, on some level, is the same as what i went through. i found those sites like beyond blue, etc etc etc and man they REALLY make you think you are worse off and doomed for. steer clear of those sites and sites that provide you with checklists to see if you have a particular disorder or whatever, being assuring that you do only makes it worse - trust me.
one thing that i did find that helped, bout you would have to be extremly careful is ***** (later on i got a script for ****** which i have 2 unused bottles of), when i was freakin out about something or i thought my girlfriend was cheating on me (we were in a tight relationship and we had known each other for years and years but she was kind of untrustworthy when it came to things like cheating and such and she was like the school's biggest liar we were at when we were younger) and when i used to flip out about her i would just have some ***** and man it's helped me calm the f down and relax and be able to grasp onto the concept of 'if she's cheating f her off'... so if your having trouble with stuff like freaking out try that but be smart about it!! if you go overboard you will end up worse off.
i hope ya start feelin better soon, i can relate to what you're going through and it feels like life it not worth living almost but ya have to hang in there- it is worth it when it gets better, i promise.
if i was back in that situation i would do exactly what i did but sooner. research bodybuliding, every aspect of it until you are confident in your knowledge. research every area, construct a diet and workout plan and hang with the people closest to you. you family, relatives or close friends (sometimes friendships break off cause everyone gets older and people move and yada yada)
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YES 5htp is the shiz! i used it too, it's like a happy pillOriginally Posted by importrev
meds are not worth it - the sides are extreme ay! i went on luvox for a short time and i think it did help but man! no personality, headaches, the lot! the scientists definatly fcuked up with that one!
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08-04-2008, 05:45 AM #28Registered User
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Ive sufferd from mild depression,though nothing compared to your problem bro...Saint Johns Wort and Kava kava were of quite a help...Also Bacopa monneri...Lets see what the other more experienced users have to say for it though...
I feel for you...Stay strong..Remember tough times dont last..tough Guys do ! You have my best wishes !!!
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wow never heard about that herbs like MJ and alcohol, haha might try themOriginally Posted by adrenalin18stud
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if you are trying to tough'n up, rum & coka cola works pretty frickin good
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08-04-2008, 06:00 AM #30Registered User
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are there sexual sides to 5htp since it does increase serotinion..
Im gonna stop by VS and look into Rhosida rose and lately i've been thinking of doing the MJ
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