Is a 405 deadlift with straps but no belt impressive?

**Anaar** · 08-02-2008, 01:44 PM

At 185 pounds?

Is it impressive or do the straps need to go?

**zrage** · 08-02-2008, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by Anaar

At 185 pounds?

Is it impressive or do the straps need to go?

yeah its impressively stupid to not.. use a belt.. a belt isnt a cheat, its what helps u not fk ur back up.... anyhow if u can lift 405 its impressive, but it would be more impressive with no STRAPS.. since it shows if ur grip can handle the weight...

**Twist3dJok3r** · 08-02-2008, 01:46 PM

At 185...eh...could be better

**Anaar** · 08-02-2008, 01:47 PM

Originally Posted by zrage

yeah its impressively stupid to not.. use a belt.. a belt isnt a cheat, its what helps u not fk ur back up.... anyhow if u can lift 405 its impressive, but it would be more impressive with no STRAPS.. since it shows if ur grip can handle the weight...

To be honest, I don't like using a belt. It feels weird.

I only use one on squats.

**Twist3dJok3r** · 08-02-2008, 01:48 PM

Originally Posted by Anaar

To be honest, I don't like using a belt. It feels weird.

I only use one on squats.

thats what I said till I ended up in physical therapy for my lower back

**Billster** · 08-02-2008, 01:49 PM

im looking to get a belt, now that im lifting heavier

do u guys think that the belts at my local place is good enuf? like Dick's Sporting good, Nationals, Sportcheck, ect..

**Twist3dJok3r** · 08-02-2008, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by Billster

im looking to get a belt, now that im lifting heavier

do u guys think that the belts at my local place is good enuf? like Dick's Sporting good, Nationals, Sportcheck, ect..

those insizor (sp?) belts online I have heard are pretty good. I have one form nike that was 30$...i didnt have the money.

**Billster** · 08-02-2008, 01:56 PM

Originally Posted by Twist3dJok3r

those insizor (sp?) belts online I have heard are pretty good. I have one form nike that was 30$...i didnt have the money.

i just need one that can protect my lower back ( dun care if it helps my lift), the injury i mentioned in that other thread is a lower back muscle pull from rugb, so my lower back is kinda iffy right now

**zrage** · 08-02-2008, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by Billster

i just need one that can protect my lower back ( dun care if it helps my lift), the injury i mentioned in that other thread is a lower back muscle pull from rugb, so my lower back is kinda iffy right now

wtd dude, where did people get this concept that a belt helps ur lift?????????

**MuscleMan009** · 08-02-2008, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by Twist3dJok3r

those insizor (sp?) belts online I have heard are pretty good. I have one form nike that was 30$...i didnt have the money.

inzer?

wow you butchered that word...

**Nuked** · 08-02-2008, 01:58 PM

Yea man it's pretty good,I use straps too, but I only hit 355 x 5 yesterday, which is a PR but I'll be in the 400's in a couple weeks

**MuscleMan009** · 08-02-2008, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by zrage

wtd dude, where did people get this concept that a belt helps ur lift?????????

it does since it tightens up your core...

**Twist3dJok3r** · 08-02-2008, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by MuscleMan009

inzer?

wow you butchered that word...

I r sorry brah...i put sp next to it

**Billster** · 08-02-2008, 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by zrage

wtd dude, where did people get this concept that a belt helps ur lift?????????

people keeping saying i dl ### no belt, so i assumed it made a bit of a difference lol, never used one

**zrage** · 08-02-2008, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by Billster

people keeping saying i dl ### no belt, so i assumed it made a bit of a difference lol, never used one

a belt is just something used to keep ur back nice and tight so when ur lifting something heavy that requires lower back movement u dont strain or mess up ur back, it in no ways gives u strength gains or anything

**MuscleMan009** · 08-02-2008, 02:10 PM

Originally Posted by zrage

a belt is just something used to keep ur back nice and tight so when ur lifting something heavy that requires lower back movement u dont strain or mess up ur back, it in no ways gives u strength gains or anything

yea it does since it tightens your core...brb: making poll in PL section.

**TheIronOwl** · 08-02-2008, 02:11 PM

If you don't get a better lift with a belt then you don't know how to use it correctly just sayin'...

**Gancor** · 08-02-2008, 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by zrage

a belt is just something used to keep ur back nice and tight so when ur lifting something heavy that requires lower back movement u dont strain or mess up ur back, it in no ways gives u strength gains or anything

Belts aren't designed for injury prevention.

**Twist3dJok3r** · 08-02-2008, 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by Gancor

Belts aren't designed for injury prevention.

thats what proper form is..and what helps improve form?

**Anaar** · 08-02-2008, 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by TheIronOwl

If you don't get a better lift with a belt then you don't know how to use it correctly just sayin'...

I definitely get a better lift, at least 15% extra on my 1RM. It just feels weird, like I said.

Using the valsalva maneuver is good enough stability.

**TheIronOwl** · 08-02-2008, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by Anaar

I definitely get a better lift, at least 15% extra on my 1RM. It just feels weird, like I said.

Using the valsalva maneuver is good enough stability.

Fair enough. Imagine the pwoer you can get from using both?

I train all summer during the off-season without a belt, I would definitely suggest using it during your harder training days though. Typically around 85%-90% and over your 1rm, I'd say throw it on.

**batmanman** · 08-02-2008, 02:22 PM

not really at 185 pounds

**xXStrangerXx** · 08-02-2008, 02:24 PM

Originally Posted by zachman08

not really at 185 pounds

how about 225 lb with straps ? or even higher ?

**Anaar** · 08-02-2008, 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by TheIronOwl

Fair enough. Imagine the pwoer you can get from using both?

I train all summer during the off-season without a belt, I would definitely suggest using it during your harder training days though. Typically around 85%-90% and over your 1rm, I'd say throw it on.

Well I am on Rippetoes. Should I use a belt for 1x5?

Thanks for your advice, btw. And damn, nice stats.

**TheIronOwl** · 08-02-2008, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by Anaar

Well I am on Rippetoes. Should I use a belt for 1x5?

Thanks for your advice, btw. And damn, nice stats.

Well It's completely up to you. If you feel confident with your core and lower back strength then it's perfectly fine to continue training without a belt.

Thanks man.

**AlphaTauMuscle** · 08-02-2008, 02:31 PM

I just started using straps for a week now I didnt know they were cheats

**bigforgood1** · 08-02-2008, 02:38 PM

how old are you and...BELT>STRAPS(i got both but dont really use the straps anymore)

**SnoCone** · 08-02-2008, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by Twist3dJok3r

thats what I said till I ended up in physical therapy for my lower back

oh hai me too

**universalrg** · 08-02-2008, 02:43 PM

not at 185, and not with straps. i dl a lil over 400 but i do it double overhand and raw

**10TonBrick** · 08-02-2008, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by Twist3dJok3r

those insizor (sp?) belts online I have heard are pretty good. I have one form nike that was 30$...i didnt have the money.

i have the 13mm Inzer Forever belt, 2 prong buckle.

its amazing. cost 70$ tho

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