I was wondering if I take about 250 grams of protein everyday, and I work out but not intense workout will the extra protein turn into fat? , and should I take that much protein on my days off too? thanks
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01-15-2007, 03:25 PM #1
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01-15-2007, 04:29 PM #9
Any of the 3 nutrients can be converted to fat - carbs, fats, or protein. However, protein has the highest chance of exiting through urine compared to the other nutrients (rofl, fat in urine).
But yes, if you did not work out (and I mean NOT work out), and have a calorie surplus, the excess protein does get converted to fat.
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01-15-2007, 04:30 PM #10
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01-15-2007, 05:02 PM #12
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Too much of anything can kill you. But it'll take a lot of protein to kill you, or make you fat. Right? It's the calories though.
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01-15-2007, 05:09 PM #13
You are right. Nothing just "passes through" your body, except undigestable things like cellulose. If it's broken down by your body, it's used somewhere, in this case, it's fat stores!
And excess protein IS bad for you. What is protein made up of?? Amino acids, right? Acids can't just pass through your body, they have to be buffered since every part of your body operates at an optimal pH. The best way your body can buffer nucleic acids is by using calcium stores. Think about where calcium is stored in your body and ask yourself if you really want to deplete your Ca stores. Is osteoporosis worth it?
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01-15-2007, 05:29 PM #14
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01-15-2007, 06:04 PM #16
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01-15-2007, 06:12 PM #18
Alot of bad information going around in this thread
Protein is only converted to glucose under fairly stressfull circumstances that include elevated heart rate, sharp declines in blood glucose, and a diet low in carbs but also low in fat.
For the most part if your not in one of the above circumstances extra protein will be excreted out through the urine and or stored in the liver, in some instances it also may be absorbed in the intestinal tract (especially glutamine).
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01-15-2007, 06:24 PM #19
MYTH: Any excess won't be stored as fat so it doesn't matter.
That's right a formula needs some input to make it work for you. So here's how you can quickly and easily figure out how much protein you need. Keep in mind that protein has calories. And while it's true that protein isn't as easily stored as fat there still remains the truth that your body only needs so many extra calories to grow.
Any excess just don't disappear.
It gets stored. As fat.
And that can and will include protein.
Ingesting 10x more then you need will not make your muscles any larger but it might add to your abdominal area in a way you wish it didn't. So figure out how much protein you need and eliminate the excess calories that can potentially just turn into fat storage.
Protein Calculation Formula:
The secret to figuring out how much protein you need is not by just taking some number you found like 30g and apply it to yourself. If everybody had the same needs we would all be the same. And we both know that just isn't true. Each person is slightly different.
Let me explain. We've all heard that a person can only digest 25-30g of protein in one sitting. B.S.!
Just think about it. Does an IFBB professional bodybuilder intake the same amount of protein as the guy who's 135 lbs just starting out? Even if there is a 200 lb weight difference?
The answer might shock you. NO
Needless to say, so many people just take some number, multiply that by their body weight and that's what they think they need a day. Tell me, if a person is 35% body fat, should they use their weight or their lean weight to figure out how much protein they need?
Simple. Lean weight. Your daily protein requirements are based on your lean body weight. And how do you figure out your lean body weight?
Use the skin fold caliper home test. Go back to Question #2.
Step 1:
Take your body weight in pounds
Example: 194 lbs
Step 2:
Find your body fat % using one of the methods in Question #2
Example: 15.7% (which is .157 for the step below)
Step 3:
Take your body weight in pounds and subtract the % body fat
Example: 194 lbs - (194 x .157 = 30.45 lbs of fat) = 163.54 lbs of lean body weight
Step 4:
Take your lean body weight and multiply by 1.14
Example: 163.54 lbs x 1.14 = 186.4g of protein a day
Step 5:
Divide your daily protein requirements by 5-6 meals and that is what your protein target is for each meal.
Example: 186.4/6 meals = 31.07g of protein per meal
As you will see, a person who is 286 lbs of lean body weight will require a lot more protein. And a person who is 286 lbs should not be consuming the same amount of protein if their percentage of body fat is 35%.
But why use 1.14 for protein requirements?
The RDA recommends .75g of protein. But that's been shown to be too low for active athletes.
Some sites will recommend 2.0g of protein. But that seems a bit high and your body will have trouble absorbing that not to mention you will probably have a lot of excess calories which can lead to fat gains.
1.14-1.5 is the most efficient range for most active, healthy adults. This range will help build muscle but not lead you into a high protein diet. Feel free to adjust within that range if you feel you need more protein.
Myth Busted!
Excess protein might not be bad for you but it's still excess calories and it doesn't just go away. It gets stored. So if you've ever heard that protein can't be stored as fat, that's simply not true.
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01-15-2007, 08:25 PM #20
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01-15-2007, 08:35 PM #21
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01-15-2007, 08:40 PM #22
Protien is broken down into peptides. Then is broken down into amino acids. The amino acids are absorbed through the small intestine's lining and enter the blood stream. The amino acids build the body's protein stores(including muscles). Excess amino acids are converted to fats and sugars.
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01-15-2007, 08:58 PM #23
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01-16-2007, 05:20 AM #26
The body uses fast release carbs like sugar and glucose first as an energy supply
Then slow release carbs like pasta,and bread and stuff second
Then it uses fat as an energy supply
then it uses protein,or breaks down muscle for energy
So it would be the last thing to turn into fat...but its all calories...if its not used it will go to fat
Its better to have 100 cals of protein than 100 cals of fat
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01-16-2007, 05:24 AM #27
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01-16-2007, 05:32 AM #28
I JUST took a nutrition class, got an A- in it, and the teacher stressed several times that all 3 energy nutrients can be converted to fat. Carbs to fat. Fat to fat. Protein to fat. It's just that the % of what is converted varies. A small amount of protein is converted to fat, some is excreted. A large % of dietary fat is converted to stored fat. A fair % of un-used carbs are converted to fat.
Of course the structures of protein are different from fat. But when it goes through your body, it gets broken down and absorbed in various areas. There's a reason your pee turns a certain color when you have excess unused protein. There's also a reason protein can be degraded into various forms of sugar molecules. The same reason why excess carb molecules are converted to fat stores; because the body hangs on to them for long-term use.
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01-16-2007, 09:51 AM #29
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01-17-2007, 03:19 PM #30
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