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07-23-2008, 07:16 AM
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Not to exceed 1 hour limit?
My whole body training sessions (2-3 times a week) usually last one and half hour, never less. Lately I was noticing the feeling that I'm drained - something that experts tell us to avoid. If I divide my sessions to daily segments of Day 1: Chest and back, Day 2: Lower body, Day 3: Arms and shoulders each one of them'll last just 30-35 minutes.
What's your experience? How long are your sessions? Do they exceed that 1 hour limit?
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07-23-2008, 07:45 AM
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I don't know how you can do your whole body in 1 hour! That's not cardio too, is it? My sessions are ALWAYS around 2 hrs and I dont do a full body workout. That is including about 20 min of cardio and a 10 min warmup. But if your feeling drained it could be something else.
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07-23-2008, 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by valpo2518
I don't know how you can do your whole body in 1 hour! That's not cardio too, is it? My sessions are ALWAYS around 2 hrs and I dont do a full body workout. That is including about 20 min of cardio and a 10 min warmup. But if your feeling drained it could be something else.
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He's not doing his whole body in an hour he breaks his bp's up during the week so technically he's not doing a whole or full body workout but a split.
He's got the terminology wrong.
That's being said my split lasts about an hour but when I was doing a FULL BODY work out as in all bp's in one session and this was four times a week it took about an hour and half.
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07-23-2008, 08:17 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by valpo2518
I don't know how you can do your whole body in 1 hour! That's not cardio too, is it? My sessions are ALWAYS around 2 hrs and I dont do a full body workout. That is including about 20 min of cardio and a 10 min warmup. But if your feeling drained it could be something else.
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That's what I do. Probably I'm applying the term FBW incorrectly. Just don't know.
I use a pair of 48-pound dumbbells
Standing Dumbbell Straight-Arm Front Raise (I hold a dumbbell vertically with both arms)
1 - 15
1 - 15
1 - 20
1 - 20
Dumbbell shoulder press (seated)
1 - 10
1 - 10
1 - 15
1 - 15
Dumbbell bicep curl (seated)
1 - 10
1 - 10
1 - 10
1 - 10
Dumbbell flyes
1 - 15
1 - 20
1 - 25
1 - 30
Abdomen bench crunches
1 - 15
1 - 15
1 - 20
1 - 20
Dumbbell side bend
1 - 15
1 - 15
1 - 15
1 - 15
Just recently I've added squats - weighted by one dumbbell.
1 - 20
1 - 20
1 - 20
1 - 20
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07-23-2008, 08:34 AM
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deracate chinese frower
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Like I said you are doing a split routine because you are breaking your body parts up and working them over three days.
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07-23-2008, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Mindi911
Like I said you are doing a split routine because you are breaking your body parts up and working them over three days.
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What three days?  All of the above I do in one session. The same routine 3 times a week.
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07-23-2008, 09:01 AM
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deracate chinese frower
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Ok now you have me confused are you doing the three day split like you mentioned in your first post
Day 1
Day 2
Day 3
or are you doing your routine that you just wrote out?
If you are doing the routine you just wrote out that's nearly a full body workout
I see biceps but no triceps
you don't have back or hamstrings in there
it's a half of a messed up routine (sorry)
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07-23-2008, 09:18 AM
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Sorry mate, but that workout is a mess....
It's not even remotely a full body workout. You've got 2 shoulder movements, 1 biceps movement, 1 secondary chest movement, 2 ab movements and you've just added a quad movement. The order is wrong, there is no logic to the lifts you're doing, you're missing back, hamstrings and triceps (and chest, to be honest).
If you want to find a full-body workout, I'd recommend Chad Waterbury's High Frequency Training Handbook (on T-Nation, the article is HFT Handbook).
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Originally Posted by Arpats
That's what I do. Probably I'm applying the term FBW incorrectly. Just don't know.
I use a pair of 48-pound dumbbells
Standing Dumbbell Straight-Arm Front Raise (I hold a dumbbell vertically with both arms)
1 - 15
1 - 15
1 - 20
1 - 20
Dumbbell shoulder press (seated)
1 - 10
1 - 10
1 - 15
1 - 15
Dumbbell bicep curl (seated)
1 - 10
1 - 10
1 - 10
1 - 10
Dumbbell flyes
1 - 15
1 - 20
1 - 25
1 - 30
Abdomen bench crunches
1 - 15
1 - 15
1 - 20
1 - 20
Dumbbell side bend
1 - 15
1 - 15
1 - 15
1 - 15
Just recently I've added squats - weighted by one dumbbell.
1 - 20
1 - 20
1 - 20
1 - 20
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07-23-2008, 09:23 AM
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deracate chinese frower
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Originally Posted by Twerp
Sorry mate, but that workout is a mess....
It's not even remotely a full body workout. You've got 2 shoulder movements, 1 biceps movement, 1 secondary chest movement, 2 ab movements and you've just added a quad movement. The order is wrong, there is no logic to the lifts you're doing, you're missing back, hamstrings and triceps (and chest, to be honest).
If you want to find a full-body workout, I'd recommend Chad Waterbury's High Frequency Training Handbook (on T-Nation, the article is HFT Handbook).
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that's exactly what I was thinking only you said it better
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07-24-2008, 02:35 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Twerp
Sorry mate, but that workout is a mess....
It's not even remotely a full body workout. You've got 2 shoulder movements, 1 biceps movement, 1 secondary chest movement, 2 ab movements and you've just added a quad movement. The order is wrong, there is no logic to the lifts you're doing, you're missing back, hamstrings and triceps (and chest, to be honest).
If you want to find a full-body workout, I'd recommend Chad Waterbury's High Frequency Training Handbook (on T-Nation, the article is HFT Handbook).
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I'm sure you are right. I've put together that workout plan myself, without a real knowledge of anything. For the first year and a half the fact that I'm finally able to excercise consistently was more than enough - previously all my forays into bodybuilding had lasted not longer than a couple month.
Now I have no doubts I'm in all that stuff for the rest of my life so am looking for the traininng routine(s) not as haphazard as the one I stick to for almost 3 years.
Thank you for the advise - I'll try to find that HFT Handbook.
By the way, when I posted my routine at the Testosterone site asking for advise how to redesign and improve it got no replies, total zero.
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07-24-2008, 02:38 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mindi911
Ok now you have me confused are you doing the three day split like you mentioned in your first post
Day 1
Day 2
Day 3
or are you doing your routine that you just wrote out?
If you are doing the routine you just wrote out that's nearly a full body workout
I see biceps but no triceps
you don't have back or hamstrings in there
it's a half of a messed up routine (sorry)
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The splits are something I plan to start doing.
I'm sure you are right. I've put together the current workout plan myself, without a real knowledge of anything. For the first year and a half the fact that I'm finally able to excercise consistently was more than enough - previously all my forays into bodybuilding had lasted not longer than a couple month.
Now I have no doubts I'm in all that stuff for the rest of my life so am looking for the traininng routine(s) not as haphazard as the one I stick to almost for 3 years.
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07-24-2008, 06:53 AM
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No worries, there's an elitist attitude on a lot of the T-Nation forums. I love the articles, and avoid the forums.
Good luck.
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