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    Anderson vs Fedor

    No poll in here because they are always manipulated.

    After seeing Silva manhandle a good sized LHW, is it so farfetched to think that he could defeat Fedor? He was 220lbs 1 week before he weighed in, so weight issues are mute and should not be discussed.

    I think it would be a sick matchup and a very hard fight to pick. A. Silva would be as quick or quicker then Fedor, whcih would negate one of Fedor's major strengths. Anderson has top notch BJJ and submissions, which would counter Fedor on the ground. Striking is an advantage to Anderson if you ask me.

    Just discuss and dont hate, celebrate.
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    Originally Posted by hfce354 View Post
    No poll in here because they are always manipulated.

    After seeing Silva manhandle a good sized LHW, is it so farfetched to think that he could defeat Fedor? He was 220lbs 1 week before he weighed in, so weight issues are mute and should not be discussed.

    I think it would be a sick matchup and a very hard fight to pick. A. Silva would be as quick or quicker then Fedor, whcih would negate one of Fedor's major strengths. Anderson has top notch BJJ and submissions, which would counter Fedor on the ground. Striking is an advantage to Anderson if you ask me.

    Just discuss and dont hate, celebrate.
    I'd have to see a few fights against some of the bigger and stronger 205s (Forrest, Rampage, etc) before I can say he'd have a decent shot against Fedor.
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    Fedor by adult-stage abortion.

    Anderson beat a middle-tier 205 pounder. And if anything, Anderson Silva is a natural 205 pounder who is able to make weight at 185. Have Anderson beat some of the best at 205 first then he can move on to some of the best at the HW division. And if he's still left standing, then people can start talking about Fedor vs. Silva.

    Anderson Silva is a great fighter. But he is nowhere near the best.

    Fedor is the best fighter on the planet.
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    Fedor would destroy Anderson.. would be a fun fight to watch tho..
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    Originally Posted by Z49 View Post
    Fedor by adult-stage abortion.

    Anderson beat a middle-tier 205 pounder. And if anything, Anderson Silva is a natural 205 pounder who is able to make weight at 185. Have Anderson beat some of the best at 205 first then he can move on to some of the best at the HW division. And if he's still left standing, then people can start talking about Fedor vs. Silva.

    Anderson Silva is a great fighter. But he is nowhere near the best.

    Fedor is the best fighter on the planet.
    Ok, if Anderson is nowhere near the best then i need to know your TOP 5 or 10. Please. Your credibility is an issue here.

    Ill show you mine

    1. Anderson
    2. Fedor *moved up one*
    3. Torres *moved down one*
    4. GSP
    5. Penn
    6. Aoki
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    9. Faber
    10. Filho

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    I loled anderson wouldnt last as long a tim did.
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    Originally Posted by hfce354 View Post
    Ok, if Anderson is nowhere near the best then i need to know your TOP 5 or 10. Please. Your credibility is an issue here.
    1. Fedor
    2. Nog
    3. Barnett
    4. Mirko
    5. Couture/Arlovski/Sylvia...

    All these people I would put above Anderson Silva in a fight.

    Like I said, Anderson has to still prove himself if he wants to be called the best fighter on the planet. There are 205 pounders that Anderson Silva probably can't get past much less HWs.
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    Is Silva's striking better than Cro-Cops in his prime? Is Silva's BJJ better that Big Nog's BJJ?
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    Originally Posted by Z49 View Post
    1. Fedor
    2. Nog
    3. Barnett
    4. Mirko
    5. Couture/Arlovski/Sylvia...

    All these people I would put above Anderson Silva in a fight.

    Like I said, Anderson has to still prove himself if he wants to be called the best fighter on the planet. There are 205 pounders that Anderson Silva probably can't get past much less HWs.

    Do you only watch the HW division? What the hell is wrong with you? LOL.
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    Originally Posted by Irezumi View Post
    Is Silva's striking better than Cro-Cops in his prime? Is Silva's BJJ better that Big Nog's BJJ?
    Striking better then Crocop and not as good as Nog, but who is?
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    Originally Posted by hfce354 View Post
    Do you only watch the HW division? What the hell is wrong with you? LOL.
    No, but I'm realistic. And is that your only reponse?
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    Originally Posted by Z49 View Post
    No, but I'm realistic. And is that your only reponse?
    I asked you a question. Do you only watch HW's? There are 7 other divisions. How could your top 5 include only HW's?
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    Originally Posted by hfce354 View Post
    Do you only watch the HW division? What the hell is wrong with you? LOL.
    Weight matters. I'd bet on most of those people against Silva until he proves himself against some high quality bigger fighters. I'm assuming we're not judging them pound for pound in this thread and just on who would win.

    Nogueira I might actually take Silva... I don't see how Nog's gonna get him to the ground and Silva would eventually mess him up on the feet. Mirko's a tossup. Someone's gonna get KO'd for sure. Ditto for Arlovski. But Fedor, Barnett, Couture, and Sylvia I think would all beat Mirko just based on size.
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    Originally Posted by hfce354 View Post
    I asked you a question. Do you only watch HW's? There are 7 other divisions. How could your top 5 include only HW's?
    I answered your question. And so what if there are other divisions? Doesn't mean there's a qouta to put some of them in the top 5/10 just because. Like I said, I'm being realistic. If there was a GP and fighters of any weight divisions fought, I'm willing to bet, it's going to be mostly HWs left standing.
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    Originally Posted by hfce354 View Post
    No poll in here because they are always manipulated.

    After seeing Silva manhandle a good sized LHW, is it so farfetched to think that he could defeat Fedor? He was 220lbs 1 week before he weighed in, so weight issues are mute and should not be discussed.

    I think it would be a sick matchup and a very hard fight to pick. A. Silva would be as quick or quicker then Fedor, whcih would negate one of Fedor's major strengths. Anderson has top notch BJJ and submissions, which would counter Fedor on the ground. Striking is an advantage to Anderson if you ask me.

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    Originally Posted by Z49 View Post
    I answered your question. And so what if there are other divisions? Doesn't mean there's a qouta to put some of them in the top 5/10 just because. Like I said, I'm being realistic. If there was a GP and fighters of any weight divisions fought, I'm willing to bet, it's going to be mostly HWs left standing.
    So, if BJ Penn couldnt defeat Bob Sapp due to the 200lb weight difference, your logic is that Sapp has better fighting skills?
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    Fedor would kill him, no one can beat Fedor.
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    Originally Posted by hfce354 View Post
    So, if BJ Penn couldnt defeat Bob Sapp due to the 200lb weight difference, your logic is that Sapp has better fighting skills?
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    1. Fedor
    2. Nog
    3. Barnett
    4. Mirko
    5. Couture/Arlovski/Sylvia...

    All these people I would put above Anderson Silva in a fight.
    He never called them more skilled. He said he'd put them over Anderson in a fight.
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    Ok, sounds like ALL think Fedor would destroy Anderson. I dont disagree but i bet anderson would open up a cut or two on Fedor.
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    Fedor would kill him, no one can beat Fedor.
    Except chuck norris.

    But don't let those two fight. I'm sure a fight like that would cause another " Big Bang " or something similar.
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    Originally Posted by Greg1983 View Post
    He never called them more skilled. He said he'd put them over Anderson in a fight.
    That was not my original question. I asked for his Top 5-10, not who would win in a fight. Is Z49 your troll account that you are defending? LOL.
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    That was not my original question. I asked for his Top 5-10, not who would win in a fight. Is Z49 your troll account that you are defending? LOL.
    I've never even seen Z49 before today and I wouldn't waste my time racking up 1000 posts on a troll account. If he thinks everyone on that list is more skilled than Anderson and better pound for pound then yeah, he's an idiot. However this thread is about what would happen if Anderson faced Fedor head to head, so obviously weight is going to play an issue if he tried to move up yet another weight class.
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    So, if BJ Penn couldnt defeat Bob Sapp due to the 200lb weight difference, your logic is that Sapp has better fighting skills?
    No, but Bob Sapp would have the W next to his name.
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    Originally Posted by Greg1983 View Post
    I've never even seen Z49 before today and I wouldn't waste my time racking up 1000 posts on a troll account. If he thinks everyone on that list is more skilled than Anderson and better pound for pound then yeah, he's an idiot. However this thread is about what would happen if Anderson faced Fedor head to head, so obviously weight is going to play an issue if he tried to move up yet another weight class.
    I was kidding about the troll account. Yes, this thread was about Fedor-Anderson and the weight is a non-issue. 220 vs 230 is nothing. And of those other HW fighters on his list, id take Anderson over 5 of the 7.
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    No, but Bob Sapp would have the W next to his name.
    Im not entirely convinced that Sapp would have the W. LOL.

    OK, so we know what your top 5 is for winning the fight due to size advantage is. What is your top 5-10 in skill or LB/LB?
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    Originally Posted by hfce354 View Post
    That was not my original question. I asked for his Top 5-10, not who would win in a fight. Is Z49 your troll account that you are defending? LOL.
    Funny how when someone is losing an argument they like to claim that the other guy is a troll.
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    Originally Posted by hfce354 View Post
    No poll in here because they are always manipulated.

    After seeing Silva manhandle a good sized LHW, is it so farfetched to think that he could defeat Fedor? He was 220lbs 1 week before he weighed in, so weight issues are mute and should not be discussed.

    I think it would be a sick matchup and a very hard fight to pick. A. Silva would be as quick or quicker then Fedor, whcih would negate one of Fedor's major strengths. Anderson has top notch BJJ and submissions, which would counter Fedor on the ground. Striking is an advantage to Anderson if you ask me.

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    This has got to be the dumbest thing i have ever heard. This is a joke and a silva nuthugger response.

    IN NO WAY IS SILVA IN THE SAME CLASS AS FEDOR.

    Fedors game planning/ mental focus/ skills are way above anyone elses. Look at the fighters Fedor fought compared to Silva. Fedor has beaten almoste every single top 15 HW in the world. I mean demolished them. Silva has beaten Hendo (only legit person he beat) and Franklin (overated 185 div was weak).

    Fedor doesn't wait and sick back feel out his opponent. He takes it too him. He tries to overwhelm you right from the beginning.

    ITs post like yours that are so irritating in the MMA community.
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    Originally Posted by hfce354 View Post
    Im not entirely convinced that Sapp would have the W. LOL.
    Yeah, but I doubt you would put money on it.
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    Originally Posted by I OuTsiDeR I View Post
    This has got to be the dumbest thing i have ever heard. This is a joke and a silva nuthugger response.

    IN NO WAY IS SILVA IN THE SAME CLASS AS FEDOR.

    Fedors game planning/ mental focus/ skills are way above anyone elses. Look at the fighters Fedor fought compared to Silva. Fedor has beaten almoste every single top 15 HW in the world. I mean demolished them. Silva has beaten Hendo (only legit person he beat) and Franklin (overated 185 div was weak).

    Fedor doesn't wait and sick back feel out his opponent. He takes it too him. He tries to overwhelm you right from the beginning.

    ITs post like yours that are so irritating in the MMA community.
    Agreed
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