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    is corn flakes complex carbs?

    i love cereal and i am looking for a good cereal to eat help?
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    The part that isn't sugar is complex carbs.
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    Originally Posted by Knux View Post
    The part that isn't sugar is complex carbs.
    it only has 2g sugar per serving. so the rest is complex and would make a good breakfast/snack material?
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    Originally Posted by rmcphers View Post
    it only has 2g sugar per serving. so the rest is complex and would make a good breakfast/snack material?
    IMO yes. Others may disagree, but I think it's perfectly fine.
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    Yes it is a complex carb. It has a high GI rating though. Good if you want fast absorbing carbs.
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    Originally Posted by cmamath13 View Post
    Yes it is a complex carb. It has a high GI rating though. Good if you want fast absorbing carbs.
    GI Index means nothing.
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    Originally Posted by -Aaron- View Post
    GI Index means nothing.
    Why do you say that? Every diabetic I know avoids corn flakes and similar products as it spikes their blood sugar hugely. Even I (a non-diabetic) get a blood-sugar rush eating corn flakes.
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    Originally Posted by imccarthy View Post
    Why do you say that? Every diabetic I know avoids corn flakes and similar products as it spikes their blood sugar hugely. Even I (a non-diabetic) get a blood-sugar rush eating corn flakes.
    Correction.

    GI Index isn't useful UNLESS you're a diabetic.
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    Originally Posted by -Aaron- View Post
    Correction.

    GI Index isn't useful UNLESS you're a diabetic.
    Thanks. I figured as much...
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    for some reason i gain fat faster with high GI foods on a bulk compared to low GI.
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    Originally Posted by v4lu3s View Post
    for some reason i gain fat faster with high GI foods on a bulk compared to low GI.
    That because from a bodybuilding and physique transformation it does....I've been in the game competeing for too long, I've seen it all and learned to let those believe what they so chose. It's their choice. And science may say one thing, but trust me, I've trained with some of the best pros in the world, every one of the uses the gi index as an integral role of nutrition.
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    Originally Posted by v4lu3s View Post
    for some reason i gain fat faster with high GI foods on a bulk compared to low GI.
    Bull.
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    What is a GI Indes? Doesn't GI stand for Glycemic Index? So why say Glycemic Index Index?

    Would a bowl of corn flakes with a banana in it be a good breakfast then? I am cutting and though cereal was out of the question.
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    Originally Posted by -Aaron- View Post
    GI Index means nothing.
    Constructive response...

    In my efforts, I am concerned with insulin levels. Food GI influences insulin, which I am trying to manipulate. Thus, I eat high GI foods at specific times of the day. (Nutrient Timing).

    What are your goals and/or understandings of GI related to your diet?

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    Originally Posted by cmamath13 View Post
    Constructive response...

    In my efforts, I am concerned with insulin levels. Food GI influences insulin, which I am trying to manipulate. Thus, I eat high GI foods at specific times of the day. (Nutrient Timing).

    What are your goals and/or understandings of GI related to your diet?

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    Originally Posted by v4lu3s View Post
    for some reason i gain fat faster with high GI foods on a bulk compared to low GI.
    I doubt thats true. Most high GI foods often are more calorie dense low GI foods so you probally were just consuming more calories.
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    not worth arguing bro...we know it works, why argue....most of the people here train as an extracurricular activity, very few compete so it's different....everyday lives gi will really not matter much, but in the sense of competeing a few lbs of fat means the world of difference.
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    Originally Posted by Xhale12 View Post
    I doubt thats true. Most high GI foods often are more calorie dense low GI foods so you probally were just consuming more calories.
    ... How does this not help him gain? high GI = more cals = more weight.

    To the OP:

    I wouldn't be overly concerned with the GI. Just make sure you are getting some protien in with those corn flakes. This sould help dull the importance of GI. Also keep an eye on the serving size. This will also help you lower the impact of a high GI food.
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    Unless you are a competitive bber their is no reason to fear the GI. you need to factor in the overall GL (amount of carbs) as well as rest of your meal, protein, fiber, fat, acid, etc. all these can lower the GI. The score given was at a large dose on an empty stomach with nothing else but the given food. so in the contex of a mixed meal it could be a whole other story.
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    im diabetic and always eat corn flakes
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    Originally Posted by -Aaron- View Post
    Correction.

    GI Index isn't useful UNLESS you're a diabetic.
    gi index is useful as well to people who are cutting. an increase in insulin means an increase in fat storage
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    Originally Posted by -Aaron- View Post
    Bull.
    poeples bodies react to different types of food differently, if he is extremly insulin sensitive that actually makes sense
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    Originally Posted by rmcphers View Post
    gi index is useful as well to people who are cutting. an increase in insulin means an increase in fat storage
    Originally Posted by qdiddy69 View Post
    poeples bodies react to different types of food differently, if he is extremly insulin sensitive that actually makes sense
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    Originally Posted by -Aaron- View Post
    You two can be the ones to tell Alan Aragon, one of the leading nutritionists in the industry as well as valued member of this forum, him and his proven studies are wrong.
    what studies, i am not aware of his work?
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    Originally Posted by -Aaron- View Post
    Bull.
    Originally Posted by Xhale12 View Post
    I doubt thats true. Most high GI foods often are more calorie dense low GI foods so you probally were just consuming more calories.

    On a 1 month cycle of Havoc, consuming ~3800-4000 calories a day, with 2 shakes a day made from ISS Gainer Matrix (replaced real foods) I was able to gain 8 lbs of lean mass and 9-10 lbs of fat mass, as well as 3 inches in the waist. I took the shakes midmorning and mid afternoon during times of the day when i was not active. When I went back to a more conventional (for me) low GI diet fat gains slow considerably. Prior to that I had spent nearly a year on a diet with no sugars, so simple carbs, and no fast digesting complex carbs. Up until 8 weeks ago I could tell you within 100 calories of what I had eaten that day. Right now I am active enough that I have not been eating enough to not lose weight no matter what i eat.

    My experience means much more to me than ANY study. What works for me or does not work for me may not mean anything to another person, but I do not care how anyone else's body reacts, I am not trying to make them lose fat or gain muscle. I work for me and me alone, if I follow studies and conventional wisdom dogmatically then I WILL fail at my goals, be angry and confused since there is plenty of research that creates great contradictions.

    Maybe you guys can get away with replacing all your complex carbs with sugar and not gain fat, but that does not work for me. Never has and never will. Getting into this lifestyle my wife and I actually started eating MORE than we did before. but some how both lost fat and gained muscle, and in her case it was even more surprising since she was already doing spin classes 2 times a week, and other cardio activities 3 times a week. But for some odd reason when she went from 1200-1300 calories with too many high GI carbs to a diet with 1700-1800 calories and low gi carbs she lost fat and gained muscle.
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    Originally Posted by rmcphers View Post
    it only has 2g sugar per serving. so the rest is complex and would make a good breakfast/snack material?
    i eat corn flakes every morning since its low on sugar (used to eat regular shredded wheat with no sugar). I throw in a handful of sliced almonds with my corn flakes for added protein and a half cup of fat free milk.
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    Originally Posted by v4lu3s View Post
    On a 1 month cycle of Havoc, consuming ~3800-4000 calories a day, with 2 shakes a day made from ISS Gainer Matrix (replaced real foods) I was able to gain 8 lbs of lean mass and 9-10 lbs of fat mass, as well as 3 inches in the waist. I took the shakes midmorning and mid afternoon during times of the day when i was not active. When I went back to a more conventional (for me) low GI diet fat gains slow considerably. Prior to that I had spent nearly a year on a diet with no sugars, so simple carbs, and no fast digesting complex carbs. Up until 8 weeks ago I could tell you within 100 calories of what I had eaten that day. Right now I am active enough that I have not been eating enough to not lose weight no matter what i eat.

    My experience means much more to me than ANY study. What works for me or does not work for me may not mean anything to another person, but I do not care how anyone else's body reacts, I am not trying to make them lose fat or gain muscle. I work for me and me alone, if I follow studies and conventional wisdom dogmatically then I WILL fail at my goals, be angry and confused since there is plenty of research that creates great contradictions.

    Maybe you guys can get away with replacing all your complex carbs with sugar and not gain fat, but that does not work for me. Never has and never will. Getting into this lifestyle my wife and I actually started eating MORE than we did before. but some how both lost fat and gained muscle, and in her case it was even more surprising since she was already doing spin classes 2 times a week, and other cardio activities 3 times a week. But for some odd reason when she went from 1200-1300 calories with too many high GI carbs to a diet with 1700-1800 calories and low gi carbs she lost fat and gained muscle.
    Again I say, it's about energy balance, not macronutirents that make you fat. :rolleye:

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    Originally Posted by v4lu3s View Post
    for some reason i gain fat faster with high GI foods on a bulk compared to low GI.
    Originally Posted by v4lu3s View Post
    On a 1 month cycle of Havoc, consuming ~3800-4000 calories a day, with 2 shakes a day made from ISS Gainer Matrix (replaced real foods) I was able to gain 8 lbs of lean mass and 9-10 lbs of fat mass, as well as 3 inches in the waist. I took the shakes midmorning and mid afternoon during times of the day when i was not active. When I went back to a more conventional (for me) low GI diet fat gains slow considerably. Prior to that I had spent nearly a year on a diet with no sugars, so simple carbs, and no fast digesting complex carbs. Up until 8 weeks ago I could tell you within 100 calories of what I had eaten that day. Right now I am active enough that I have not been eating enough to not lose weight no matter what i eat.

    My experience means much more to me than ANY study. What works for me or does not work for me may not mean anything to another person, but I do not care how anyone else's body reacts, I am not trying to make them lose fat or gain muscle. I work for me and me alone, if I follow studies and conventional wisdom dogmatically then I WILL fail at my goals, be angry and confused since there is plenty of research that creates great contradictions.

    Maybe you guys can get away with replacing all your complex carbs with sugar and not gain fat, but that does not work for me. Never has and never will. Getting into this lifestyle my wife and I actually started eating MORE than we did before. but some how both lost fat and gained muscle, and in her case it was even more surprising since she was already doing spin classes 2 times a week, and other cardio activities 3 times a week. But for some odd reason when she went from 1200-1300 calories with too many high GI carbs to a diet with 1700-1800 calories and low gi carbs she lost fat and gained muscle.
    you're both doing it wrong
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    Originally Posted by -Aaron- View Post
    You two can be the ones to tell Alan Aragon, one of the leading nutritionists in the industry as well as valued member of this forum, him and his proven studies are wrong.
    more studies lol
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