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Old 07-14-2008, 07:05 PM   #1
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check out the difference...

juss wanted to see what everyone thought of the difference in my abs...
The Red posing trunk ones are from 2005,
The black and white one are from 2007
And the Blue posing trunks are from 2008...
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Old 07-14-2008, 07:07 PM   #2
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You've definetely added some nice definition! great job
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Old 07-14-2008, 08:09 PM   #3
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so, ummm.. You turned black in 2008? crazy change in skin color of the couple or years you posted. It's confusing me so i'm currious as to how you got that dark?

but the abs are freaking awesome.
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Old 07-15-2008, 12:28 AM   #4
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hahaha Its called Dreamtan, I was in a competition:P
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Old 07-15-2008, 05:39 AM   #5
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Wow great definition

What kind of diet did you follow on the cut?
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Old 07-15-2008, 07:00 AM   #6
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nice change....look very good!
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Wow great definition

What kind of diet did you follow on the cut?
basiclly this diet with some odd changes here and there..

Meal 1:
8-9 egg whites
2 cups of oatmeal

Meal 2:

6oz. chicken
8oz. of potatoes

Meal 3:

8oz. steak
8oz. of potatoes

Meal 4:

6oz. chicken
8oz. of potatoes

Meal 5:

2 cans of tuna
5 rice cakes

Meal 6:

6oz. chicken
8oz. of potatoes
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You should try some meat and potatoes next time you cut..

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damn, so symmetrical, I wish mine weren't uneven!

Thats quite a diet, I think I'd get sick of potatoes though.

Do you precook everything?
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damn, so symmetrical, I wish mine weren't uneven!

Thats quite a diet, I think I'd get sick of potatoes though.

Do you precook everything?
yea i always doin, either the night before or in the mornings
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basiclly this diet with some odd changes here and there..

Meal 1:
8-9 egg whites
2 cups of oatmeal

Meal 2:

6oz. chicken
8oz. of potatoes

Meal 3:

8oz. steak
8oz. of potatoes

Meal 4:

6oz. chicken
8oz. of potatoes

Meal 5:

2 cans of tuna
5 rice cakes

Meal 6:

6oz. chicken
8oz. of potatoes
1st off awesome job on what you've accomplished so far! Your whole physique looks great, and proprtions and symmetry are really good.


Now, here's my question:

Did you honestly eat that diet every day leading up to your competition?

Here's why I ask:

The above diet is 2783 Calories - with no additives such as cooking oils, marinades, butter, sugar, etc.

Total Calories according to Fitday.com = 2783

370g P / 195g C / 49g F

56% P / 27% C / 17% F


*When I did the math (4 x 370 + 195 x 4 + 49 x 9) I got 2701 Calories


Regardless, 2701 Calories or 2783 Calories is A LOT of Calories to be eating to lose weight at such a light body weight.

Let's say you ate just 2700 Calories per day. That would mean your maintenance Calories must be at least 3200 Calories per day.


Now I understand that your metabolism is more efficient than mine (genetics and you're much younger), but I am still confused about this diet you posted that you say you followed to cut up.

Did you start out using this diet... as in, is this the diet you ate when you 1st started to cut? Did you ever have to reduce the Calories to keep losing fat or did you keep adding cardio in to burn more Calories (i.e. keep body in a Caloric defecit)?

How long were you on the posted diet and how much weight were you losing per week on the posted diet?

I'm just curious... that's all.

I'm not calling you a liar or anything. I am amazed that you were able to lose weight while eating this diet, and am curious to know a little bit more about how you managed to get so lean with out never reducing your Calories. <-- By the way, physically speaking it makes no sense... b/c as one loses body weight/fat their energy requirements get lower. So, in order for one to lose weight they must keep decreasing Calories to make sure the body is in a Caloric defecit - if weight loss is the goal. Otherwise the body eventually hits a plateau since Calories In = Calories Out.

Last, I am only interested in this... I am an Exercise Science major w/ a Nutrition Minor, so these subjects are an interest of mine. Please don't take offense... I'm just questioning you b/c I think it's interesting you ate so much and got so lean.
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1st off awesome job on what you've accomplished so far! Your whole physique looks great, and proprtions and symmetry are really good.


Now, here's my question:

Did you honestly eat that diet every day leading up to your competition?

Here's why I ask:

The above diet is 2783 Calories - with no additives such as cooking oils, marinades, butter, sugar, etc.

Total Calories according to Fitday.com = 2783

370g P / 195g C / 49g F

56% P / 27% C / 17% F


*When I did the math (4 x 370 + 195 x 4 + 49 x 9) I got 2701 Calories


Regardless, 2701 Calories or 2783 Calories is A LOT of Calories to be eating to lose weight at such a light body weight.

Let's say you ate just 2700 Calories per day. That would mean your maintenance Calories must be at least 3200 Calories per day.


Now I understand that your metabolism is more efficient than mine (genetics and you're much younger), but I am still confused about this diet you posted that you say you followed to cut up.

Did you start out using this diet... as in, is this the diet you ate when you 1st started to cut? Did you ever have to reduce the Calories to keep losing fat or did you keep adding cardio in to burn more Calories (i.e. keep body in a Caloric defecit)?

How long were you on the posted diet and how much weight were you losing per week on the posted diet?

I'm just curious... that's all.

I'm not calling you a liar or anything. I am amazed that you were able to lose weight while eating this diet, and am curious to know a little bit more about how you managed to get so lean with out never reducing your Calories. <-- By the way, physically speaking it makes no sense... b/c as one loses body weight/fat their energy requirements get lower. So, in order for one to lose weight they must keep decreasing Calories to make sure the body is in a Caloric defecit - if weight loss is the goal. Otherwise the body eventually hits a plateau since Calories In = Calories Out.

Last, I am only interested in this... I am an Exercise Science major w/ a Nutrition Minor, so these subjects are an interest of mine. Please don't take offense... I'm just questioning you b/c I think it's interesting you ate so much and got so lean.

Yea i know it seems weird but it worked, everyones body is different. I did about an hour of cardio a day, the only time my diet change is when I did my fat load for the show..
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Yea i know it seems weird but it worked, everyones body is different. I did about an hour of cardio a day, the only time my diet change is when I did my fat load for the show..
Thanks for the reply...

Cool.

So, how long were you dieting?

Did you start out doing an hour of cardio at the beginning of your cut or did you add it in later?

Did you increase cardio intensity over time?
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Thanks for the reply...

Cool.

So, how long were you dieting?

Did you start out doing an hour of cardio at the beginning of your cut or did you add it in later?

Did you increase cardio intensity over time?
I was on the diet for 12 weeks,
Cardio stay the same throughout..
Hour a day, either stairmaster, treadmill, or bike. Low intensity.
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I was on the diet for 12 weeks,
Cardio stay the same throughout..
Hour a day, either stairmaster, treadmill, or bike. Low intensity.
Sounds good .

So, did you lose 12 lbs or did you lose more?
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Sounds good .

So, did you lose 12 lbs or did you lose more?
Lost about 15 to 20 lbs
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Lost about 15 to 20 lbs
Nice. That's an average of 1.6 lbs lost per week...


Hahaha now I am even more baffeled at your results... it just doesn't make any sense, but whatever...

Good luck with your next show, man!
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