Naught33's Neogenix GT Stack (Bodyforge and Cryoshock) Log

**naught33** · 07-13-2008, 05:43 PM

Hey all, I will be running Neogenix GT Stack (Bodyforge and Cryoshock) beginning tomorrow, July 14th, and i'll be logging my impressions/results for all to follow and chime in on. I'll post a couple "before" pics in the thread for comparison sake at the end of the cycle.

A little info on myself, I was always the skinny kid growing up, played a lot of sports and had trouble putting on weight, used to eat everything in site and drink weight gainers but I guess because I was so active my metabolism too fast. I didn't start working out with weights until the end of my college days (I'll be 32 in september), prior to that I mostly got my exercise from sports, mostly tennis and basketball. I put on a good bit of weight over a few years, at my highest I was weighing in at about 165 lbs, which I know doesn't sound like a lot, but it took a lot for me to get to that level. I wasn't fat by any means, but decided I wanted to lean up and get ripped so I started changing my diet, eating more cleanly, and adding more cardio to my workouts, not to mention I managed to separate my shoulder and herniate 2 disks in my back and decided no longer was it necessary for me to be benching 250 lbs. That brings me to the present.

My workouts generally are very aerobic, I lift 4 days a week, warming up with 30-45 min of cardio before my workouts (i know most ppl prefer it post workout but I end up blowing it off and like breaking that sweat and feeling really warm and loose prior to lifting, for some reason i seem stronger that way, prob a mental thing). The days I lift, I do high rep supersets for the most part, monday and thurs is chest/back/bis, and tues/fri is shoulders/tris and I work abs at the end of those days. I know I need to incorporate legs back into my routine, that would probably be on wednesdays. The days I do not lift, I do intense cardio, 99 minutes on the stair stepper usually, and then 45 min of weighted ab work.

Diet wise I eat mostly egg whites, oatmeal, whole wheat toast, fruits (mostly bananas and berries), veggies (salads and greens with an occasional sweet potato here and there), cottege cheese, yogurt, low fat cheese, and lean meats (chicken, salmon, tuna, ground beef and ground turkey), skim milk, water, and whey. I know it's pretty boring, but it seems effective for me.

Current Supplements:
Multi-vitamin
Glucosamine
Green Tea Extract
Whey-throughout day (low carb isopure, beverly international muscle provider, and allmax isoflex)
Casein (optimum nutrition 100% supreme choc)
Scivation Xtend

possibly plasmajet (was on it and cycled off it for a month might go back on it, not sure yet)

will be adding Neogenix Bodyforge and Cryoshock starting tomorrow!

I apologize for the book chapter, just thought it would be appropriate to give some info on myself before I began the log, looking fwd to doing this and seeing what results I can achieve. My goals would be to add some lean muscle mass and strength while maintaining definition. Any questions anyone has feel free to ask and I'll respond as soon as I can.

Pics of the products and of myself below:

**MBSowards** · 07-13-2008, 05:47 PM

I am pumped for your log. Thanks for doing this man. I made the pics bigger to make them easier for people to see without going through links.

Can't wait for your initial feedback. PM me if you need anything at all. Log looks great, btw!

**naught33** · 07-13-2008, 06:01 PM

thanks man..appreciate the help and the kind words...looking fwd to my workout tomorrow and kicking ass in the gym!

**XCriticalBenchX** · 07-13-2008, 06:26 PM

Im in! Work ya ass off

Mike

**donoh** · 07-13-2008, 06:59 PM

Very nice man. You got all the bases covered here. Looking forward to some feedback on these as I'm highly interested.

**NeoRudyx** · 07-13-2008, 07:22 PM

In for the Awesomeness of the log!!

**naught33** · 07-13-2008, 09:20 PM

glad all of you were here to help w the log and keep me motivated...but im only about 6-8 hrs away from my 1st serving of BF OHHHHHHHH YEAAAAAAAAAH lol

**user98511001541** · 07-13-2008, 10:02 PM

great log so far!

i'd recommend stating your goals (strength, speed, bulk, cut, endurance) so we can shape that workout regimine... thats A LOT of cardio and the training split is different

let me know, i like to get more into the personal training aspect on the forums so lets optimize the training to meet your fitness goals

**DinoT1985** · 07-14-2008, 04:36 AM

Nice to see youve started a log Naught

**naught33** · 07-14-2008, 09:48 AM

ok...sorry this took me so long to get up on here havent had time to get to the computer to type this out until now.

took my 1st serving of bodyforge this morning before breakfast, I ate about 30 min after taking it, probably need to allow a little bit more time in between my serving and a meal, I can play around w that tomorrow....here are my initial thoughts...

MIXABILITY: 10/10...this stuff doesn't clump, everything mixes nice and easily in water, I used about 12 oz. I just used a shaker cup and a spoon to stir it and it dissolved into the water almost instantly leaving me with a lemonade/water mixture to drink.

TASTE: 9/10...I was a little worried because you never know how a supplement is gonna taste when you try it, especially 1st thing in the morning, sometimes that can be rough. However, this was a pleasant surprise. Usually the lemon flavors are fairly strong and overpowering, but the BF was a nice subtle taste, not too strong and very easy to get down. I mixed it with 12 oz of water and let it sit and settle for a few minutes, as was recommended by MBSowards. The 12 oz is on the high side according to the label, but I figure the extra water is probably good for me, if you like the supplement stronger you could always do less water for a stronger lemon flavor, or if you need less, can always add a little more water.

All in all, great tasting and easily mixable supplement. Very pleased from that aspect. It's about 1 pm now and I'll be hitting the gym tonight and taking my Cryoshock preworkout and will be back to post tonight about how that goes, looking FWD to it!

little side note to ACONRAD00...dont think im ignoring your post, ill def post tonight for you about my goals and what im trying to do, just time limited right now, but ill def get into that when I get back on here and post about my workout tonight

**MBSowards** · 07-14-2008, 10:34 AM

Originally Posted by naught33

ok...sorry this took me so long to get up on here havent had time to get to the computer to type this out until now.

took my 1st serving of bodyforge this morning before breakfast, I ate about 30 min after taking it, probably need to allow a little bit more time in between my serving and a meal, I can play around w that tomorrow....here are my initial thoughts...

MIXABILITY: 10/10...this stuff doesn't clump, everything mixes nice and easily in water, I used about 12 oz. I just used a shaker cup and a spoon to stir it and it dissolved into the water almost instantly leaving me with a lemonade/water mixture to drink.

TASTE: 9/10
All in all, great tasting and easily mixable supplement.

Great to hear you liked it. First impressions, check.

**XCriticalBenchX** · 07-14-2008, 01:29 PM

Glad to hear you liked bodyforge! I prefer that over cryoshock, taste wise

**MBSowards** · 07-14-2008, 06:54 PM

Checked in to see how the workout/cryoshock went...

Excited to see those first impressions.

**naught33** · 07-14-2008, 07:16 PM

ok guys just got in from the gym a little while ago....took the cryoshock, let me say, WOW...had amazing energy in the gym, focus was unbelieveable, seemed like I was the only person in the gym and I wasn't paying attention to anyone or anything around me, just me and the weights, plus I had great strength...so far so good!!

for the cryoshock:

MIXABILITY: 10/10...Just like the Bodyforge, this stuff mixes really easy and really quick. I put 2 scoops in a poland spring bottle, filled it up, shook it up a few times and by the time I got to the gym it was all dissolved just leaving me with the red berry liquid, no clumps, no particles of powder left in the bottle.

TASTE: 6/10...Maybe it is because the Bodyforge was such a subtle taste and very mild that I expected the same from the Cryoshock, but Cyroshock definately has a very distinct taste and is rather strong. The taste isn't bad at all by any means, it probably is an acquired taste, definately have had much worse tasting supplements by far, but have also had better tasting ones. Like I said, I probably expected a similar potency taste wise as the Bodyforge and this is significantly a much stronger flavor.

Now on to the workout. Mixed my Cryoshock before I left the house, and drank it when I got to the gym. About 30 min after drinking it I began my cardio.

Did 50 minutes of cardio on the step mill, burned about 580 calories give or take, sweated my ass off...and didn't feel the least bit tired.

Today's workout was Chest/Back/Biceps superset. I do preacher curls before I begin my rotation.

Here is how I did:

Preacher Curls (gets me a good pump going in my arms and has me ready to do serious work!)

Set 1: 75 lbs * 12 reps
Set 2: 85 lbs * 12 reps
Set 3: 95 lbs * 10 reps
Set 4: 105 lbs * 6 reps
Set 5: 105 lbs * 3 reps
Set 6: 95 lbs * 9 reps
Set 7: 85 lbs * 12 reps
Set 8: 75 lbs * 25 reps

OK, on to the supersets...Each superset consists of a chest/back/bicep exercise, doing 3 sets for 3 different combinations of 3 exercises. Within each SET, a chest/back/bicep exercise is done as a superset with no rest, then a short rest before repeating each combo 2 more times...I hope this makes sense.

SET 1:

Decline Barbell Bench Press: 165 lbs * 12 reps
T-Bar Row: 115 lbs * 12 reps
Hammer Curls: 40 lbs * 9 reps, 37.5 lbs * 3 reps

Decline Barbell Bench Press: 165 lbs * 12 reps
T-Bar Row: 125 lbs * 12 reps
Hammer Curls: 40 lbs * 9 reps, 37.5 lbs * 3 reps

Decline Barbell Bench Press: 165 lbs * 12 reps
T-Bar Row: 125 lbs * 12 reps
Hammer Curls: 40 lbs * 9 reps, 37.5 lbs * 3 reps

SET 2:

Incline Dumbbell Bench Press: 75 lbs * 12 reps
Seated Row: 100 lbs * 12 reps
Straight Barbell Curls: 75 lbs * 8 reps, 65 lbs * 4 reps

Incline Dumbbell Bench Press: 75 lbs * 9 reps, 70 lbs * 3 reps
Seated Row: 100 lbs * 12 reps
Straight Barbell Curls: 75 lbs * 9 reps, 70 lbs * 3 reps

Incline Dumbell Bench Press: 75 lbs * 12 reps
Seated Row: 110 lbs * 6 reps, 100 lbs * 3 reps, 90 lbs * 3 reps
Straight Barbell Curls: 75 lbs * 6 reps, 65 lbs * 6 reps

SET 3:

Pec Deck: 180 lbs * 12 reps
Lat Pulldown: 90 lbs * 12 reps (then standing lat pressdown 40 lbs * 12 reps)
Seated Single Arm Preacher (cybex machine): 60 lbs * 12 reps each arm

Pec Deck: 185 lbs * 12 reps
Lat Pulldown: 100 lbs * 7 reps, 90 lbs * 5 reps (standing lat pressdown 50 lbs * 6 reps, 40 lbs * 6 reps)
Seated Single Arm Preacher (cybex machine): 65 lbs * 12 reps each arm

Pec Deck: 190 lbs * 12 reps
Lat Pulldown: 100 lbs * 6 reps, 90 lbs * 6 reps (standing lat pressdown 50 lbs * 4 reps, 40 lbs * 8 reps)
Seated Single Arm Preacher (cybex machine): 70 lbs * 8 reps, 65 lbs * 6 reps.

that completes the superset workout, I plowed thru it today and was strong. Was stronger on almost every exercise and hit more reps at higher weight then I normally do. Had crazy energy, but not over the top where I felt jittery or anything, just felt really focused and had good stamina thru each rep.

After I was done I usually add single arm pec deck and do some more bicep work.

Single Arm Pec Deck: 105 lbs * 12 reps for 3 sets

Incline Dumbbell Curls:
set 1: 40 lbs * 10 reps, then drop set to 30 lbs * 10 reps
set 2: 40 lbs * 8 reps, then drop set to 30 lbs * 8 reps
set 3: 40 lbs * 8 reps, then drop set to 30 lbs * 8 reps

Cable Concentration Curls:
set 1: 60 lbs * 10 reps
set 2: 70 lbs * 6 reps
set 3: 60 lbs * 8 reps
set 4: 50 lbs * 8 reps

Dumbbell Hammer/Concentration Curl (kind of a mix between the 2):
set 1: 32.5 lbs * 7 reps each arm
set 2: 32.5 lbs *8 reps each arm
set 3: 32.5 lbs * 8 reps each arm
set 3: 32.5 lbs * 7 reps each arm

was running a little late so didn't have a ton of time to work abs tonight but did:

oblique crunches on exercise ball: 3 sets of 40 reps each side with body weight, and 3 sets of 30 reps on each side with a 10 lb plate.

regular crunches on exercise ball: 4 sets using 35 lb plate for a minute non stop, and then body weight for 2 minutes each set.

All in all, great workout today, very happy with it, definately had enough juice to get thru my workout without tiring and pleased I was able to lift heavier and get more reps at the higher weights!

In response to ACONRAD00 in a previous post asking about my goals....my main thing these days is to stay in great shape. I've worked hard to get my endurance up and I'm trying to keep it that way, while maintaining lean mass, and maybe adding a few lbs. I have given up on trying to lift ultra heavy, can't really do that anymore because of the separated shoulder injury and hernaited disks, and most of the time I lift I'm without a spotter. Thus I tend to do the supersets to give me high rep, high intensity workouts and have had good results from doing so. Adding about 5-10 lbs, staying lean, and being shredded would be my ultimate goal but I know its almost impossible to do both at once

**XCriticalBenchX** · 07-14-2008, 07:31 PM

I dont see how you are going to keep this log up!! It is damn detailed!!! You must have no life! Even if you do your updates half as good as this one, they will still be amazing

.

Mike

**MBSowards** · 07-14-2008, 08:00 PM

Originally Posted by XCriticalBenchX

I dont see how you are going to keep this log up!! It is damn detailed!!! You must have no life! Even if you do your updates half as good as this one, they will still be amazing

.

Mike

Insult the logger Mike, great idea.

Great update man. I agree about the taste. It is fairly strong but you will get used to it...Make sure to let it sit for a few minutes to make sure the flavors settles a little bit (important imo) Some of the ingredients aren't the easiest to flavor, but I think we've done an alright job.

Amazing update btw, I am very impressed and looking forward to see your results as you move forward.

**naught33** · 07-14-2008, 09:37 PM

hey guys just doin what I can...doesn't take me long to type this all out, i type fast

tomorrow will be shoulders/triceps..

i'll def let the CS sit a few minutes before drinking it, usually sits on my way from house to gym, about a 10 min ride...im sure its an acquired taste like i said, but i was able to drink it, so its not horrible or anything, just has a strong distinct flavor...see ya guys tomorrow!

**DinoT1985** · 07-15-2008, 02:12 AM

Nice to see first impressions hold up to its reputation

How was sleep the night? You were slightly worried over it's stimulant asffects I remember reading from the PM's.

**naught33** · 07-15-2008, 04:37 AM

Originally Posted by DinoT1985

Nice to see first impressions hold up to its reputation

How was sleep the night? You were slightly worried over it's stimulant asffects I remember reading from the PM's.

DinoT1985....no issues with sleep, went to bed my normal time, and got the same amount of sleep, so no effect there...all is well so far. Woke up a little while ago and had my dose of Bodyforge. With the workout I had yesterday I wish I could go workout now lol, but it'll have to wait till later on today!

**XCriticalBenchX** · 07-15-2008, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by MBSowards

Insult the logger Mike, great idea.

Great update man. I agree about the taste. It is fairly strong but you will get used to it...Make sure to let it sit for a few minutes to make sure the flavors settles a little bit (important imo) Some of the ingredients aren't the easiest to flavor, but I think we've done an alright job.

Amazing update btw, I am very impressed and looking forward to see your results as you move forward.

Sorry!

I agree with the flavor as well.. BodyForge is superior in taste at least for my tongue buds

Mike

**NeoRudyx** · 07-15-2008, 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by XCriticalBenchX

I dont see how you are going to keep this log up!! It is damn detailed!!! You must have no life! Even if you do your updates half as good as this one, they will still be amazing

.

Mike

Mike,

Hadn't we gone over the rules for being a GOOD rep??

Naught33, great log!!!

**naught33** · 07-15-2008, 06:36 PM

Originally Posted by NeoRudyx

Mike,

Hadn't we gone over the rules for being a GOOD rep??

Naught33, great log!!!

thanks man! i just got in a little while ago, gonna make some dinner, settle in and watch the MLB all star game and will type out my log for today later on tonight...short version tho, AWESOME f'n workout!

**MBSowards** · 07-15-2008, 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by naught33

thanks man! i just got in a little while ago, gonna make some dinner, settle in and watch the MLB all star game and will type out my log for today later on tonight...short version tho, AWESOME f'n workout!

Sweet, I am very happy you're enjoying your results so far.

**naught33** · 07-15-2008, 10:02 PM

Today I started out with cardio on the step mill, dod 50 minutes burned about 60 calories, sweated my ass off...and didn't feel the least bit tired.

Today's workout was Shoulders/Triceps.

Here is how I did:

OK, on to the supersets...Each superset consists of a shoulder/tricep exercise, doing 3 sets for 3 different combinations of 3 exercises. Within each SET, a shoulder/tricep exercise is done as a superset with no rest, then a short rest before repeating each combo 2 more times...I hope this makes sense.

SET 1:

Military Front Shoulder Press (on smith machine): 180 lbs * 12 reps
Dips with weighted dip belt: bodyweight+70 lbd * 12 reps

Military Front Shoulder Press (on smith machine): 180 lbs * 12 reps
Dips with weighted dip belt: bodyweight+70 lbd * 12 reps

Military Front Shoulder Press (on smith machine): 185 lbs *6 reps, 175 lbs *6 reps.
Dips with weighted dip belt: bodyweight + 70 lbs * 12 reps

SET 2:

Dumbbell Arnold Presses: 50 lbs * 10 reps (finished last 2 reps doing regular shouder presses)
Rope pulldown extension: 70 lbs * 12 reps

Dumbbell Arnold Presses: 50 lbs * 7 reps (finished last 5 reps doing regular shoulder presses)
Rope pulldown extension: 70 lbs *7 reps, 60 lbs * 5 reps

Dumbbell Arnold Presses: 50 lbs * 8 reps (finished last 4 reps doing regular shoulder presses)
Rope pulldown extension: 70 lbs * 7 reps, 60 * 5 reps

SET 3:

Front/Lat raise combo: 22.5 lbs * 12 reps each for front and lateral
Skull Crushers and closed grip bench: 85 lbs * 12 reps for both.

Front/Lat raise combo: 22.5 lbs * 12 reps
Skull Crushers and closed grip bench: 85 lbs * 12 reps for both

Front/Lat raise combo: 25 lbs * 4 reps, 22.5 * 4 reps, 20 lbs * 4 reps
Skull Crushers and closed grip bench: 75 lbs * 12 reps for both.

SET 4:

Rear Delts on pec deck: 105 lbs * 12 reps
Single arm cable reverse pulldown: 40 lbs * 12 reps for each arm

Rear Delts on pec deck: 105 lbs * 12 reps
Single arm cable reverse pulldown: 40 lbs * 9 reps, 30 lbs * 3 reps each arm

Rear Delts on pec deck: 105 lbs * 12 reps
Single arm cable reverse pulldown: 40 lbs *9 reps, 30 lbs * 3 reps each arm

SET 5: Shrugs (front and rear)

sets of rear shrugs were (245 lbs * 12 reps, 255 lbs * 12 reps, 255 lbs * 12 reps)

sets of front shrugs were (245 lbs * 12 reps for all 3 sets)

this was the end of the supset shoulder/tricep workout...impressions, once that cryoshock hits you, it puts you in the zone, the focus is tremendous...just makes you feel like its you vs the machine or the weights youre trying to move. nothing else seems to exist in the gym. I was very please, heavier lifts on my military by a bit, and on my weighted dips, havent tried that weight in a while, would have done body weight +55 lbs, i was doing bodyweight + 70 lbs today and easily!

added on

3 sets of dumbbell lateral raises of 25 lbs * 10 reps
3 sets of front raises of 25 lbs * 10 reps
Front Cable Pressdowns/Reverse cable pulldowns:
set 1: 70 lbs*8 reps/ 60 lbs * 8 reps
set 2: 70 lbs * 7 reps/ 70 lbs *7 reps
set 3: 60 lbs * 10 reps/ 60 lbs * 6 reps, 50 lbs * 4 reps

ABS:
did 6 sets of 30 reps each of leg raises on the roman chair.

oblique crunches on exercise ball: 3 sets of 40 reps each side with body weight, and 3 sets of 30 reps on each side with a 10 lb plate.

regular crunches on exercise ball: 4 sets using 35 lb plate for a minute non stop, and then 10 lb weight for 2 minutes each set, and then 2 sets of just bodyweight crunches on the exercise ball for 3 min non stop.

I definately feel more amp'd in the gym, do not feel the slighest bit of fatigue and that I could keep going for hours. Def great focus, energy and intensity in the gym, and so far added strength...great stuff you guys!

sorry the log was written late ive been caught up in this all star game lol..

tomorrow is just an intense cardio day, 99 min cardio and prob a heavy hardcore ab session...still debating whether im best off taking BF twice, or the BF i nthe morn and the CS preworkout?

!

**naught33** · 07-16-2008, 10:02 AM

hey everyone, sorry for a few typos in my thread last night, got caught up watchin that all star game and posted pretty late.

so far, nothing but positive things to say about BF and CS, my workouts have been great, very good focus and energy, endurance has been good and i've been strong.

today is just a massive cardio day, 99 min of cardio for me, might do more if i feel up to it, and then an ab workout.

unsure if im going to take the BF preworkout since its technically a non-lifting day, or go w the CS since it still is a long workout, any opinions by the reps would be great! i'll keep you posted!

**DinoT1985** · 07-16-2008, 12:29 PM

I'd just do the BF as I dont usually need increased focus for cardio, though the energy might be good. If you decide to take CS before it youd end up wanting to before every cardio and then youl run out faster. The Citrulline Malate should work well for it. Id suggest to have a coffee and the BF.

**user98511001541** · 07-16-2008, 12:48 PM

Originally Posted by naught33

hey everyone, sorry for a few typos in my thread last night, got caught up drinking way too many beers and watching the all-star game

fixed!

I'd stick with BF on off days, altho I know people who will take a scoop of cryoshock throughout the day for a little pick-me-up

**naught33** · 07-16-2008, 08:09 PM

Originally Posted by AConrad00

fixed!

I'd stick with BF on off days, altho I know people who will take a scoop of cryoshock throughout the day for a little pick-me-up

haha thanks for the correction in my thread, much appreciated!

wish i had checked ur post and Dino's before I hit the gym, i ended up having the BF in the AM and then taking CS preworkout...my next long cardio day isn't until saturday, maybe i'll try doing BF in the AM and preworkout and skipping the CS that day to see how my body reacts, and see if there is a difference...I'm a little weary of that just because I'm used to taking an NO before my cardio, was using no xplode or white flood, so wondering if taking the BF if ill have less energy to get thru it, or break less of a sweat since I sweat my ass off usually when I take those or the CS and do cardio? any thoughts? Saw the suggestion about coffee, i don't really drink those, I only have a latte once a week, sunday mornings usually.

NOW, onto the good stuff...the workout

Today was an offday from lifting, but will be back at the grind tomorrow, that being said just because it was an offday doesn't mean I didn't DO WORK!

Did 99 minutes on the step mill, burning 1215 calories. Most of the time on the cardio I had it on level 12, although I ranged from level 11-15.

Had great energy during the cardio session, I didn't feel tired at all, I felt like I could have stayed on the machine for another 20-30 minutes. The CS seems to really give me great endurance and energy and put me in a zen like state where I'm almost oblivious to everything else around me except for the task at hand. Oh yeah, and forgot to mention I sweat my ASS off...I was totally drenched by the time I was done, great feeling!

After my cardio, I did abs...this is what I did.

6 sets of 40 reps each of leg lifts on roman chair resting about 30-45 seconds in between sets.

3 sets of oblique crunches on exercise ball, 40 reps each side per set, minimal rest in between each set

3 sets of oblique crunches on exercise ball using a 10 lb weight, 30 reps each side per set, minimal rest in between each set

3 sets of regular crunches on exercise ball using a 10 lb weight...4 minutes worth of crunches each set, resting about a minute in between sets

3 sets of regular crunches on exercise ball...3-4 minutes worth of crunches each set, resting about 30 sec in between sets.

3 sets of regular crunches on exercise ball using a 35 lb weight for 1 min, followed by 2 min without weight, minimal rest

2 sets of regular crunches on exercise ball using 25 lb weight for 2 min each.

By the end of the workout, abs were friend, felt great and were popping out and definately burning. Good "light" workout today, light in the sense because I didn't lift, but definately had good energy and focus and strength to get thru the heavy cardio and ab routine without a problem!

Tomorrow is back to work with chest/back/bi's again

**DinoT1985** · 07-17-2008, 04:28 AM

You should still sweat a bit but as you've said, I dont think id be as much as if taken a stimulant. 99 minutes cardio, how did you not get bored? lol. I try but unless im on the bike reading a book, the TV in the cardio room or music just bores me.

**naught33** · 07-17-2008, 06:00 AM

Originally Posted by DinoT1985

You should still sweat a bit but as you've said, I dont think id be as much as if taken a stimulant. 99 minutes cardio, how did you not get bored? lol. I try but unless im on the bike reading a book, the TV in the cardio room or music just bores me.

yeah man, it definately does get boring! thats why i do long cardio days on weekends for the most part bc I can usually find a ball game or something to watch, so that way i only have to really suffer thru it once during the week. it takes a lot of discipline for me to stay on there that long, believe me, sometimes i get lucky and some poor soul gets on there next to me to talk to me, while im dripping all over the machine lol.

do you think i should take some kind of stim then on the cardio days if im not gonna take the CS or w BF be enough?

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