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    China/russia... help Iran?

    I am not up to date on my world order so I have a question. If we bomb iran wont China and Russia take their side? If we went to war with thise 3 I would be very scared living here in NJ (right in the middle of Dc and NYC. Thoughts?
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    Originally Posted by lacerate View Post
    I am not up to date on my world order so I have a question. If we bomb iran wont China and Russia take their side? If we went to war with thise 3 I would be very scared living here in NJ (right in the middle of Dc and NYC. Thoughts?
    Yes they support Iran. But no country on earth would dare attack the US because they know they would be off the map in a matter of hours . They may complain and mumble about how the US is so big and bad but they won't do a thing about it.
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    Originally Posted by spol8910 View Post
    Yes they support Iran. But no country on earth would dare attack the US because they know they would be off the map in a matter of hours . They may complain and mumble about how the US is so big and bad but they won't do a thing about it.
    If the US launched nukes at another country, the US would get nuked back. It's like a chain reaction where the whole world loses.
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    Originally Posted by Silent Sniper View Post
    If the US launched nukes at another country, the US would get nuked back. It's like a chain reaction where the whole world loses.
    The US has the air power to decimate most countries infrastructure. China has <50 nukes that can hit us, Russia's are falling apart and may not even launch according to a recent article by a top ranking Russian general.


    I'm not saying the US would launch a nuclear attack if attacked with conventional weapons by Russia/China. However we would bomb them back a few decades. This they know, hence why they would not attack us.
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    Originally Posted by spol8910 View Post
    The US has the air power to decimate most countries infrastructure. China has <50 nukes that can hit us, Russia's are falling apart and may not even launch according to a recent article by a top ranking Russian general.


    I'm not saying the US would launch a nuclear attack if attacked with conventional weapons by Russia/China. However we would bomb them back a few decades. This they know, hence why they would not attack us.
    Falling apart? No.
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    Originally Posted by Volodya_Putin View Post
    Falling apart? No.
    Falling apart, yes Even with all Putin's military dreams he was unable to maintain Russia's nuclear missles like the US was. The US actually pays Russia to take apart their nukes.
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    Originally Posted by spol8910 View Post
    Falling apart, yes Even with all Putin's military dreams he was unable to maintain Russia's nuclear missles like the US was. The US actually pays Russia to take apart their nukes.
    Well, where's your "report" from a "top ranking general."

    Last I read an American top ranking general said America will have to be in Iraq for the 150 years.
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    Originally Posted by spol8910 View Post
    The US has the air power to decimate most countries infrastructure. China has <50 nukes that can hit us, Russia's are falling apart and may not even launch according to a recent article by a top ranking Russian general.
    If you think so, I do know that the said countries (China, US, Russia) all have secret programs. If we went by your definition, the US would've taken out China and Russia by now.

    And I'd like to see this report by the top ranking Russian general.

    I'm not saying the US would launch a nuclear attack if attacked with conventional weapons by Russia/China. However we would bomb them back a few decades. This they know, hence why they would not attack us.
    I disagree. No country wants to go to war no matter who it is. Even for USA, that means a couple of decades backward in economy and that goes a long way if not militarily. Last I checked the US military raised their max age (you can join at the age of 42 now). They are also offering positions for foreigners.
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    Originally Posted by Volodya_Putin View Post
    Well, where's your "report" from a "top ranking general."

    Last I read an American top ranking general said America will have to be in Iraq for the 150 years.
    t was in a News Week article, I'll find it.

    Yes America will stay in Iraq until the job is done hopefully. Do you have a problem with that?
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    Originally Posted by swirl View Post
    If you think so, I do know that the said countries (China, US, Russia) all have secret programs. If we went by your definition, the US would've taken out China and Russia by now.

    And I'd like to see this report by the top ranking Russian general.



    I disagree. No country wants to go to war no matter who it is. Even for USA, that means a couple of decades backward in economy and that goes a long way if not militarily. Last I checked the US military raised their max age (you can join at the age of 42 now). They are also offering positions for foreigners.
    Why would the US have taken out China by now? I was posting that to a response to a poster than said China would attack the US if the US attacked Iran. China posses no threat to the US, so why would the US attack her unless she attacks first?
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    Originally Posted by spol8910 View Post
    The US has the air power to decimate most countries infrastructure. China has <50 nukes that can hit us, Russia's are falling apart and may not even launch according to a recent article by a top ranking Russian general.


    I'm not saying the US would launch a nuclear attack if attacked with conventional weapons by Russia/China. However we would bomb them back a few decades. This they know, hence why they would not attack us.
    Uh... if you think the we can prevent Chinese or Russian nukes from hitting us, you are very sadly mistaken. For our most recent missile test, didnt we haev like a 50% chance of knocking out ONE missile?

    And even if lets say, 5 nukes hit us destroying NYC, WDC, SF, LA, Detroit... what the hell do you think would happen to our nation?
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    Originally Posted by k4y View Post
    Uh... if you think the we can prevent Chinese or Russian nukes from hitting us, you are very sadly mistaken. For our most recent missile test, didnt we haev like a 50% chance of knocking out ONE missile?

    And even if lets say, 5 nukes hit us destroying NYC, WDC, SF, LA, Detroit... what the hell do you think would happen to our nation?
    um no. The last 5 missile shoot down tests have been a success. I don't know what biased source you get your info from.
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    Originally Posted by spol8910 View Post
    Why would the US have taken out China by now? I was posting that to a response to a poster than said China would attack the US if the US attacked Iran. China posses no threat to the US, so why would the US attack her unless she attacks first?
    Apparently a lot of people and a lot of source disagree with you.

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1427667/posts - China's Looming Threat
    http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0628/dailyUpdate.html - China a security threat to US?

    There are more. Russia as well poses a threat to US but perhaps not on such a large scale that China poses.

    Originally Posted by spol8910 View Post
    um no. The last 5 missile shoot down tests have been a success. I don't know what biased source you get your info from.

    I'd like to see source on this as well. It seems like you live in a world where US is doing "just fine" while everyone is worried about how US is doing (economically, militarily, etc).
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    Originally Posted by spol8910 View Post
    um no. The last 5 missile shoot down tests have been a success. I don't know what biased source you get your info from.
    You seriously believe we can stop every single nuke from either China or Russia? lmao.
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    Originally Posted by k4y View Post
    You seriously believe we can stop every single nuke from either China or Russia? lmao.
    Apparently there are lots of people like him that believes America is nearly invulnerable.
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    1 nuke can up to 5 detachable warheads correct? So therefore we would have to have 5 successful hits to air-disarm a nuke. And even at that point if it is close enough the radiation above us is still a threat, right? Well get your warplans ready with family members, like where to meet up, because if it is a emp you can kiss contact goodbye.
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    every thread on this forum turns into who would win in a war ? or ?, or religion vs athiest. lol
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    Yes. Verbally, Russia and China stand behind Iran. Physically, they wont risk their own economy for Iran's sake, however, they will help Iran rebuild, due to their oil trade.

    The only way China and Russia would help Iran in war is if any of those countries are hit.
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    Originally Posted by spol8910 View Post
    t was in a News Week article, I'll find it.

    Yes America will stay in Iraq until the job is done hopefully. Do you have a problem with that?
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    Originally Posted by spol8910 View Post
    The US has the air power to decimate most countries infrastructure. China has <50 nukes that can hit us, Russia's are falling apart and may not even launch according to a recent article by a top ranking Russian general.


    I'm not saying the US would launch a nuclear attack if attacked with conventional weapons by Russia/China. However we would bomb them back a few decades. This they know, hence why they would not attack us.
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    Originally Posted by spol8910 View Post
    t was in a News Week article, I'll find it.

    Yes America will stay in Iraq until the job is done hopefully. Do you have a problem with that?
    Im glad it will be the US only hopefully.
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    With gas being around $10/gal and our weak economy getting even weaker if Iran is attacked, all China and Russia have to do is sit back and watch us implode.
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    Originally Posted by lacerate View Post
    I am not up to date on my world order so I have a question. If we bomb iran wont China and Russia take their side? If we went to war with thise 3 I would be very scared living here in NJ (right in the middle of Dc and NYC. Thoughts?
    No they won't enter on the side of Iran but yes they will help
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    Originally Posted by spol8910 View Post
    The US has the air power to decimate most countries infrastructure. China has <50 nukes that can hit us, Russia's are falling apart and may not even launch according to a recent article by a top ranking Russian general.


    I'm not saying the US would launch a nuclear attack if attacked with conventional weapons by Russia/China. However we would bomb them back a few decades. This they know, hence why they would not attack us.
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    LOL @ 'Russia's nukes falling apart'.

    What a load of crap. They have thousands that can still hit the US.
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    Originally Posted by lacerate View Post
    I am not up to date on my world order so I have a question. If we bomb iran wont China and Russia take their side? If we went to war with thise 3 I would be very scared living here in NJ (right in the middle of Dc and NYC. Thoughts?
    Apparently some people believe that neither country would help their bread basket... well their source of oil/money (Iran). So no... they wouldn't. LOL
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    Would you start a war with the US over Iran when you know the US will be weaker in five years for having invaded Iran?
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    Originally Posted by EDC View Post
    Would you start a war with the US over Iran when you know the US will be weaker in five years for having invaded Iran?
    in the world of politics... yes, if it's for my best interests. and I would say that if anything China and Russia would join in "defense" of Iran... not to start a war right off.
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