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    Whey protein giving cramps

    I recently purchased Whey Protein from a company called Body Fortress. It mixes well and tastes pretty good, but it seems to give me intestinal cramps when I take it. Acutally very soon after taking it. I'm still doing some testing to make sure it is the whey, but I'm pretty well convinced at this point. Has anybody had similar experiences with any Body Fortress products?
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    OK, it may just be your body adapting to a new whey product. Try cutting back on the amount and gradually ease it up to where you want it. This should help.
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    Yes, I had the exact same problem with them. I think it's because of their whey protein concentrate mixed in with the whey protein isolate. I switched to Designer Whey and Goatein on alternating days, and the cramping stopped.

    Body Fortress has an outstanding product that is whey protein isolate-only (no concentrate in there) that they sell in test tube-shaped containers that I use to get a shot of WPI after lifting that has produced no cramping. That's another reason I think it's the concentrate that's at issue here. No concentrate, no cramps.
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    Originally Posted by dbx View Post
    Have you been wearing Compression shorts?
    LOL, the gift that keeps on giving! Kinda reminds me of Capt_Lou's burning balls problem!

    To the OP, get PMS much?
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    Originally Posted by SP1966 View Post
    LOL, the gift that keeps on giving! Kinda reminds me of Capt_Lou's burning balls problem!

    To the OP, get PMS much?
    Do I look like I get pms much?
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    Guff, does that whey have lactase in it? If not (and many don't), that could be an issue as well.
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    Originally Posted by Marius_Ursus View Post
    Yes, I had the exact same problem with them. I think it's because of their whey protein concentrate mixed in with the whey protein isolate. I switched to Designer Whey and Goatein on alternating days, and the cramping stopped.

    Body Fortress has an outstanding product that is whey protein isolate-only (no concentrate in there) that they sell in test tube-shaped containers that I use to get a shot of WPI after lifting that has produced no cramping. That's another reason I think it's the concentrate that's at issue here. No concentrate, no cramps.

    You kind of lost me with all of that, I guess I have not read much on the differences or effects from one or the other. I just checked the ingredients and it reads
    Whey Protein Blend (Whey Concentrate, Whey Protein Isolate).

    Why the cramps with concentrate?
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    P.S. Guff, let us know if your cramps go away when you go off Body Fortress powder. I was never positive that's what was causing mine, but like I said, the cramps went away when I went over to the other two brands I mentioned.
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    Originally Posted by dbx View Post
    Guff, does that whey have lactase in it? If not (and many don't), that could be an issue as well.
    No lactase listed in the ingredients.
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    Originally Posted by Guff View Post
    You kind of lost me with all of that, I guess I have not read much on the differences or effects from one or the other. I just checked the ingredients and it reads
    Whey Protein Blend (Whey Concentrate, Whey Protein Isolate).

    Why the cramps with concentrate?
    I don't really know. I think I'm just sensitive to it. I've been using Designer Protein for years, but when I saw Body Fortress in the regular ol' grovery store for such a low price, I thought I'd give it a chance. I went through two cans of the stuff before I narrowed my pain down to the protein powder and decided to try going to a different brand for a while.

    I was talking to a buddy in Oz on the phone and asked him if he'd ever heard of protein causing cramps, and the first thing he asked me was, "Is it isolate?"
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    Originally Posted by Guff View Post
    Do I look like I get pms much?
    Was kidding!
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    It's official, Body Fortress Whey is(was) the culprit of the cramps. I tried one scoop and I still cramped, albeit not as severe. I purchased a new tub of ON vanilla and NO CRAMPS at all. I still have some Body Fortress however so I tried 2 scoop and uggg...cramps and poo.

    Lesson learned, don't buy the cheapo stuff you find in Krogers.
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    Originally Posted by Guff View Post
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    It's official, Body Fortress Whey is(was) the culprit of the cramps. I tried one scoop and I still cramped, albeit not as severe. I purchased a new tub of ON vanilla and NO CRAMPS at all. I still have some Body Fortress however so I tried 2 scoop and uggg...cramps and poo.

    Lesson learned, don't buy the cheapo stuff you find in Krogers.
    Guess that rules out PMS!
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    that sux man... I love the body fortress whey...
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    Originally Posted by Guff View Post
    I recently purchased Whey Protein from a company called Body Fortress. It mixes well and tastes pretty good, but it seems to give me intestinal cramps when I take it. Acutally very soon after taking it. I'm still doing some testing to make sure it is the whey, but I'm pretty well convinced at this point. Has anybody had similar experiences with any Body Fortress products?
    Sorry I didn't see this thread earlier.. been using this stuff , I like it a lot
    no cramps or any intestinal issues whatsoever... I used to work at a gym
    I was running the Juice bar/restaurant & cafe
    I served and tasted a lot of whey powders we had an exclusive deal with EAS
    and to me bodyfortress is 100% better in taste..
    the chocolate one however taste like **** it's just not easy to replicate chocolate , I wish they'd use real cocoa defatted ..
    Anyway, the culprit is most likely sucralose ..body fortress contains sucralose
    If I recall correctly EAS does too, some people are sensitive to it and it causes stomach cramps and diarrhea so that could be it,
    I have seen one guy working out and run for the toilet and literally crapping in his pants before he got to it LOL he didn't come back to the gym for months ....
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    Originally Posted by Marius_Ursus View Post
    I don't really know. I think I'm just sensitive to it. I've been using Designer Protein for years, but when I saw Body Fortress in the regular ol' grovery store for such a low price, I thought I'd give it a chance. I went through two cans of the stuff before I narrowed my pain down to the protein powder and decided to try going to a different brand for a while.

    I was talking to a buddy in Oz on the phone and asked him if he'd ever heard of protein causing cramps, and the first thing he asked me was, "Is it isolate?"
    So does your whey have sucralose ?? I don't know about the difference of isolate vs non isolate but the sucralose is well known to cause intestinal cramps..
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    Originally Posted by Guff View Post
    I recently purchased Whey Protein from a company called Body Fortress. It mixes well and tastes pretty good, but it seems to give me intestinal cramps when I take it. Acutally very soon after taking it. I'm still doing some testing to make sure it is the whey, but I'm pretty well convinced at this point. Has anybody had similar experiences with any Body Fortress products?
    Guff, My husband and I have used Body Fortress before and It only made us bloated. I believe ON Whey is the best..Stay away from the WalMart store Whey..........
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    Originally Posted by MalibuDebi1972 View Post
    Guff, My husband and I have used Body Fortress before and It only made us bloated. I believe ON Whey is the best..Stay away from the WalMart store Whey..........
    Could it be that it's because BF has creatine in it ??
    BF is not a wallmart brand
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    Originally Posted by BrotherWolf View Post
    Could it be that it's because BF has creatine in it ??
    BF is not a wallmart brand
    I never said it was made by Walmart..I only have had bad protein bought by there.
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    Originally Posted by MalibuDebi1972 View Post
    I never said it was made by Walmart..I only have had bad protein bought by there.
    I though you though... :-)
    They do sell other brands but I think it depends on locations
    Muscle milk, EAS, Body fortress ..plus the ready made shakes Myoplex
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    Originally Posted by BrotherWolf View Post
    I though you though... :-)
    They do sell other brands but I think it depends on locations
    Muscle milk, EAS, Body fortress ..plus the ready made shakes Myoplex
    I just haven't had good things from there, that's all...We take a lot of supplements, whey, NO explode. My husband just won a contest in MD and they shipped him out some stuff, that he is just using..His article will be in the Septembers issue
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    Originally Posted by MalibuDebi1972 View Post
    I just haven't had good things from there, that's all...We take a lot of supplements, whey, NO explode. My husband just won a contest in MD and they shipped him out some stuff, that he is just using..His article will be in the Septembers issue
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    Originally Posted by Guff View Post
    I recently purchased Whey Protein from a company called Body Fortress. It mixes well and tastes pretty good, but it seems to give me intestinal cramps when I take it. Acutally very soon after taking it. I'm still doing some testing to make sure it is the whey, but I'm pretty well convinced at this point. Has anybody had similar experiences with any Body Fortress products?
    Whey Protein usually has a dosage of fiber per scoop as well.

    I never get cramps, but I have a lot of movement in my southern extremities.
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    Weird question - but do you get cramps from oats or bread too?

    I've got celiacs and I know many wheys that use wheat products and I have to stay far far away from.

    If this sounds like you - there's a blood test you can get to confirm it - KimberlyRN knows the US name for it.
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    Here's a few fact I found out about whey concentrate, and that may also be one of the reasons it makes some people cramp and poop... whey protein concentrate contains lactose..

    Whey Protein Concentrate vs Whey Protein Isolate

    There are two types of whey protein: concentrate and isolate. whey protein concentrate is about 80% protein. It?s the most common form of protein found in protein powder supplements. Whey isolate is about 90% protein, making it even lower in fat, carbs and lactose.

    When you are choosing whey supplements, be sure to read the labels carefully to find the product that works for you. The law requires ingredients to be listed in order of predominance. The first ingredient amount is greater than the second. The second ingredient amount is greater than the third, and so forth.

    Next, check the nutrition facts box on the protein product label to see how many grams are in a serving size and how many grams of protein are in a serving. For example, if a serving of whey protein A is 29 grams and each serving has 21 grams of protein, and a serving of whey protein B is 42 grams with 14 grams of protein, whey protein A is more concentrated. That doesn?t mean that one is ?better? than the other; they are just different and you can choose the type of whey protein that suits your needs.

    In general, the recommended daily protein intake for healthy adults is 0.4 grams per pound of body weight. So if you weigh 150 pounds, you need about 60 grams of protein, and if you are a frequent exerciser, you may need more.

    Any type of whey protein supplement will provide health benefits for almost anyone.

    Serious athletes appreciate the rapid absorption of whey protein, which promotes faster muscle recovery from exercise. But whey protein also can help type 2 diabetes patients manage their glucose and their weight because it provides high-quality protein without the high fat and cholesterol found in other protein sources. And moms-to-be, take note: Whey protein can be a healthy, low-fat protein option for pregnant women, whose protein needs may increase by nearly one third during pregnancy.


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    Originally Posted by Tishalicious View Post
    Weird question - but do you get cramps from oats or bread too?

    I've got celiacs and I know many wheys that use wheat products and I have to stay far far away from.

    If this sounds like you - there's a blood test you can get to confirm it - KimberlyRN knows the US name for it.
    I do not. Typically I have a cast iron stomach, meaning not much bothers me.
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    Good stuff Wolf. It was mentioned above about isolate and concentrate. Maybe there's something to it.
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    I have no lactose issues.

    I have never had sucralose issues.

    I use BodyFortress Whey Protein isolate recovery shooters with no problem.

    I've also used whey protein concentrate in other brands, but I prefer (and now use exclusively whey protein isolate. All other things being equal, there have to be issues with the whey protein concentrate formula from Body Fortress, especially if their whey protein isolate shooter gives me no issues.
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    Originally Posted by Marius_Ursus View Post
    I have no lactose issues.

    I have never had sucralose issues.

    I use BodyFortress Whey Protein isolate recovery shooters with no problem.

    I've also used whey protein concentrate in other brands, but I prefer (and now use exclusively whey protein isolate. All other things being equal, there have to be issues with the whey protein concentrate formula from Body Fortress, especially if their whey protein isolate shooter gives me no issues.
    Odd indeed... could it be that BF also has a bunch of other supplements in their mix? maybe you're sensitive to one of those
    here's another interesting web site
    http://www.wheyoflife.org/faq.cfm#3

    I could not find any posts from people having those same symptoms,
    unless they where also allergic or sensitive to dairy products,
    however some people complained of cramping when taking creatine.. now BF has creatine in it and I always wondered if the container is not shaken regularly the heavier coarser creatine will separate from the whey powder, therefore you are never sure how much creatine you're taking in, easy to "overdose" personally, too much and it gives me nausea..
    does this make sense at all ???


    the whey powder they use in the mix must be mostly isolate as they have one of the highest protein content per serving "52g", if it where the opposite you would have a different ratio per serving..

    and I am not defending BF or anything like that I am just curious
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    Originally Posted by BrotherWolf View Post
    Odd indeed... could it be that BF also has a bunch of other supplements in their mix? maybe you're sensitive to one of those
    here's another interesting web site
    http://www.wheyoflife.org/faq.cfm#3

    I could not find any posts from people having those same symptoms,
    unless they where also allergic or sensitive to dairy products,
    however some people complained of cramping when taking creatine.. now BF has creatine in it and I always wondered if the container is not shaken regularly the heavier coarser creatine will separate from the whey powder, therefore you are never sure how much creatine you're taking in, easy to "overdose" personally, too much and it gives me nausea..
    does this make sense at all ???


    the whey powder they use in the mix must be mostly isolate as they have one of the highest protein content per serving "52g", if it where the opposite you would have a different ratio per serving..

    and I am not defending BF or anything like that I am just curious
    Your idea makes sense, but I take Creatine on a regular basis now, and I wasnt taking Creatine at the time I was using BF.

    Weird.
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