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    A trainer told me:

    that in order to lose fat, I must do 60 min of cardio a day.

    He said that I can do:

    treadmill -> 20 min
    bike -> 20 min
    eleptical -> 20 min

    and THEN move onto my hour or so of strength training..

    Is that too much for a days work? I'm worried that I'll be too fatigued after the 60 min to even start my lifting..

    yay or nay?
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    That sounds ridiculous to me, personally. I know that I wouldnt be able to even touch weights after an hour of cardio honestly. I've also read things that doing cardio before strength training reduces its effectiveness, which I assume is why Ive always seen people lifting first, running second.
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    Wink Not necessarily true

    This is not all true because it is not about the length of your cardio sessions, fat burning is about your efforts during your workouts. You can do a 30 minute high intensity cardio session followed by a 15 minute medium to low intensity "cool down" session and burn more calories than you would doing a straight 60 minute session on various machines. Also light weights high reps routines contribute to a significant amount of fat burning for the body. Burning fat is not only in the form of long winded cardio sessions. If you keep your heart rate elevated 20 percent past its normal rate you will begin the fat burning process no matter what form of exercises you choose to do. Good Luck.
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    Originally Posted by hattrickinc View Post
    that in order to lose fat, I must do 60 min of cardio a day.

    He said that I can do:

    treadmill -> 20 min
    bike -> 20 min
    eleptical -> 20 min

    and THEN move onto my hour or so of strength training..

    Is that too much for a days work? I'm worried that I'll be too fatigued after the 60 min to even start my lifting..

    yay or nay?
    It depends. If you do 60 mins cardio in the morning and weight training in the evening, its acceptable. (maybe your trainer wanted you to do this way).

    If you do 60 mins cardio and hit weight training right after that, its probably too much.
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    Most trainers are shake-n-bake trainers who received a certificate for an 8 hour class or something equally stupid. You have to consider the source when it comes to things like that. Will cardio work? Of course. However, resistance training is paramount to body composition and should always be your first priority.

    Many here don't even do cardio. Personally I do cardio 6-7 days a week because I enjoy it, but it's hardly essential to fat loss.

    1. Diet
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    Originally Posted by hattrickinc View Post
    that in order to lose fat, I must do 60 min of cardio a day.

    He said that I can do:

    treadmill -> 20 min
    bike -> 20 min
    eleptical -> 20 min

    and THEN move onto my hour or so of strength training..

    Is that too much for a days work? I'm worried that I'll be too fatigued after the 60 min to even start my lifting..

    yay or nay?
    What he/she told you isn't nessisarliy bad advice and it's also kind of hard for me or ANYONE here to tell you one way or another with out knowing your goals and body composition. The "general rule of thumb" for burning fat is to have your pulse rate with in it's ATZ for atleast 30-45min.
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    My goal is fat loss, and to reply to one of the responses: he told me to do it everyday, right before my weightlifting.
    He's not my trainer, but a local " bodybuilder / trainer"..

    I laugh when people who look horrible try giving u advice, but he looks pretty muscular, which is why I even entertained the thought...
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    There are many ways to lose fat. The best way is a proper diet. You can accelerate the fat loss with exercise. The best way to exercise will always be debated. My advise is try a way record progress and try a different way and compare what gave you the best results or what you enjoyed doing more. If you dont stick with it or enjoy it is not very effective. For me personally HIIT cardio in the morning for 20 min 3x a week did a pretty good job with a reduced cal diet.
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    Turn your body into a fat furnace, aka raise your RMB. 2 of the most straightforward ways to achieve this:

    1) Weight/resistance training, and not just 3 sets of 10 each. Lift hard, intense & as heavy as you can control in good form. Try to PR every workout. Compound body movements and supersetting them will add to it.

    2) HIIT cardio. 20 minutes of hell 2-3x week will reap huge benefits metabolically & your cardio will get a LOT better. But it should be down right almost beyond one's comprehension of what your body can do. Intense is an understatement.

    If you add a healthy diet plan to that you should melt fat big time.
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    Did this "trainer" ask what your nutrition was like before handing out this little nugget of training advice?

    Just about any training method will work but it still comes down to the nutrition. Either set a training goal and allow that to drive nutrition, or set a nutrition goal and allow that to determine what type of training optimizes it.
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    Originally Posted by hattrickinc View Post
    that in order to lose fat, I must do 60 min of cardio a day.

    He said that I can do:

    treadmill -> 20 min
    bike -> 20 min
    eleptical -> 20 min

    and THEN move onto my hour or so of strength training..

    Is that too much for a days work? I'm worried that I'll be too fatigued after the 60 min to even start my lifting..

    yay or nay?
    nay. can it be done like that? sure. but its not optimum.

    weights first.
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    Originally Posted by luv2dnce View Post
    This is not all true because it is not about the length of your cardio sessions, fat burning is about your efforts during your workouts. You can do a 30 minute high intensity cardio session followed by a 15 minute medium to low intensity "cool down" session and burn more calories than you would doing a straight 60 minute session on various machines. Also light weights high reps routines contribute to a significant amount of fat burning for the body. Burning fat is not only in the form of long winded cardio sessions. If you keep your heart rate elevated 20 percent past its normal rate you will begin the fat burning process no matter what form of exercises you choose to do. Good Luck.
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    Originally Posted by Scott~ View Post
    Most trainers are shake-n-bake trainers who received a certificate for an 8 hour class or something equally stupid. You have to consider the source when it comes to things like that. Will cardio work? Of course. However, resistance training is paramount to body composition and should always be your first priority.

    Many here don't even do cardio. Personally I do cardio 6-7 days a week because I enjoy it, but it's hardly essential to fat loss.

    1. Diet
    2. Resistance training
    3. Recovery
    4. Cardio
    i disagree
    my diet and cardio are my main priorities during a cut cycle much more so than lifting ,vice versa for a bulk cycle, and ive had satisfying and consistent results
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    Originally Posted by luv2dnce View Post
    This is not all true because it is not about the length of your cardio sessions, fat burning is about your efforts during your workouts. You can do a 30 minute high intensity cardio session followed by a 15 minute medium to low intensity "cool down" session and burn more calories than you would doing a straight 60 minute session on various machines. Also light weights high reps routines contribute to a significant amount of fat burning for the body. Burning fat is not only in the form of long winded cardio sessions. If you keep your heart rate elevated 20 percent past its normal rate you will begin the fat burning process no matter what form of exercises you choose to do. Good Luck.
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    You'll have no energy left after an hour of cardio
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    Thumbs up Totally agree

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    You'll have no energy left after an hour of cardio
    I can't agree more here. I've found that I can sustain most of my muscle without pushing my resistance training to the limit. For me, I will wake up, eat breakfast, go workout, and then sometime after lunch I will do my cardio. Most might say this is backwards, but it seems to work for me. You really need to just figure out what your body will respond to in a positive way.
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    Originally Posted by hattrickinc View Post
    that in order to lose fat, I must do 60 min of cardio a day.

    He said that I can do:

    treadmill -> 20 min
    bike -> 20 min
    eleptical -> 20 min

    and THEN move onto my hour or so of strength training..

    Is that too much for a days work? I'm worried that I'll be too fatigued after the 60 min to even start my lifting..

    yay or nay?
    Surprised he didn't try selling you snakeskin oil, I mean, fat burning supplements too.

    60 minutes of cardio before even starting strength training screams "i'm not a certified trainer"
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    haha

    Man I had a trainer tell me to do no more then 15 minutes of cardio at 24 hour Fit. just hit the weights and got othe gym 6 days a week.

    Tried that did not work out so good. I was 34 35% bf I did put on some muscle but only droped a few pounds in months.
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    Originally Posted by NorthernMist View Post
    Man I had a trainer tell me to do no more then 15 minutes of cardio at 24 hour Fit. just hit the weights and got othe gym 6 days a week.

    Tried that did not work out so good. I was 34 35% bf I did put on some muscle but only droped a few pounds in months.
    You must've been missing something then. Like a clean diet, not lifting correctly, waiting too long in between sets, etc. Also, it takes time to see results when you're at that level of body fat. Americans are obsessed with getting instant gratification.
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    haha

    Originally Posted by Flair4TheGold View Post
    You must've been missing something then. Like a clean diet, not lifting correctly, waiting too long in between sets, etc. Also, it takes time to see results when you're at that level of body fat. Americans are obsessed with getting instant gratification.
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    haha actually your right my diet was not in check, not sure about lifting right probably did that wrong too. Instant gratification hell yeah I am all about that. It actually took 3 months before I started to drop the weight.
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    Originally Posted by hattrickinc View Post
    that in order to lose fat, I must do 60 min of cardio a day.

    He said that I can do:

    treadmill -> 20 min
    bike -> 20 min
    eleptical -> 20 min

    and THEN move onto my hour or so of strength training..

    Is that too much for a days work? I'm worried that I'll be too fatigued after the 60 min to even start my lifting..

    yay or nay?
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    Originally Posted by Flair4TheGold View Post
    You must've been missing something then. Like a clean diet, not lifting correctly, waiting too long in between sets, etc. Also, it takes time to see results when you're at that level of body fat. Americans are obsessed with getting instant gratification.
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    Originally Posted by hattrickinc View Post
    that in order to lose fat, I must do 60 min of cardio a day.
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