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Old 06-29-2008, 06:35 PM   #1
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Why All The Hate For Metalcore?

Honestly why do all of the metalheads feel the need to talk **** on metalcore?

For the record, my favorite metalcore bands are Parkway Drive, It Dies Today, IKTPQ, As I Lay Dying, War of Ages, and August Burns Red
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I don't see why anybody has to hate on anybody else's musical tastes PERIOD. Any band with a record deal doesn't suck, simple as that. You may not like them, sure, but they have talent or else they wouldn't be making records.
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Cuz black matal is gr1m and deaf metulz is br000tal.

Try to ignore the elitist mentality in regards to the 'core' genres, tentative ***gotry is a given in any genre, it's just spewed forth in larger numbers in metal.

Anything that arouses the slightest bit of attention from the mass media is shunned as 'sell-out', because most popular music that is even vaguely related to metal would be Metalcore and it's sister and brother genres (Post Hardcore, Deathcore etc), Metalcore tends to become a spawning ground for haterade.

I'll agree that it is a cookie-cutter genre with not a wide array of qualities to offer, but the bands that do stand out (Parkway Drive, ABR, Misery Signals, Darkest Hour and a whole lot more) deserve every bit of the attention they get and should be commended for revitalising an already stale and derivative genre.

When someone says that Metalcore is 'ghey' or something vulgarly idiotic as so, they'll either refer to the absue of 'breakdowns' (which i will then lol indecisively at them for immense ignorance) or refer to the 'scene' following/culture.

If anyone judges a music genre as a whole in correlation to the mass of the fans, then truly, stupidity is the opium of the common man.
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I like deathcore like All Shall Perish, the Aborted etc. but band like August Burns Red is WAYYY to emo-y for my taste.
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I like deathcore like All Shall Perish, the Aborted etc. but band like August Burns Red is WAYYY to emo-y for my taste.
Aborted is Death metal.
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Aborted is Death metal.
not really, have you listened to them? They are definetly not straight death they are deathcore/gorecore.
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not really, have you listened to them? They are definetly not straight death they are deathcore/gorecore.
Huge fan actually, they started out as Brutal Death but have recently gone alot more melodic via the lesser emphasis on brutality.

Listen to their Goremageddon album and tell me that's deathcore.

I don't even know wth Gorecore is.
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Old Aborted is Death Metal. Newer stuff is kinda Deathcore sounding but I still enjoy it.
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yea I have their new one and thats the only one ive listened to. Also, you ever Play Rainbow Six 2? my gamertag is BIGBEN2236 if you wanna play sometime.
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Maybe it's because of the use of hardcore and hardcore to some is like nu metal doesn't belong in the same breath as metal much less mixed in with metal.
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Honestly why do all of the metalheads feel the need to talk **** on metalcore?

For the record, my favorite metalcore bands are Parkway Drive, It Dies Today, IKTPQ, As I Lay Dying, War of Ages, and August Burns Red
i just saw august burns red today good band
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I like deathcore like All Shall Perish, the Aborted etc. but band like August Burns Red is WAYYY to emo-y for my taste.
ABR is emo? LAWLZ. Back to Green Day and Linkin Park for you.
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I don't see why anybody has to hate on anybody else's musical tastes PERIOD. Any band with a record deal doesn't suck, simple as that. You may not like them, sure, but they have talent or else they wouldn't be making records.
ROFL. a band with a record deal CAN suck. the only reason they have that record deal is because it pertains to the company's interest.
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ROFL. a band with a record deal CAN suck. the only reason they have that record deal is because it pertains to the company's interest.
Like..errrmm Souljah Boy, Mims, Hurricane Chris...they are all great artists.






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No, they can't. In your opinion, they might not be talented, but it takes talent, regardless of opinion, to get a record deal. End of story.

Souljah Boy and whoever the fuk else that guy mentioned after you, I personally don't find much urban music very good, but like it or not, the guys have talent.
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metalcore is fucking terrible

artistically worthless, shallow, repetitive and oh yea the absolute worst vocals in the entire genre of rock/metal

that's why people hate on metalcore. It's nothing more than a slightly advanced version of nu metal. Slightly advanced utter garbage is still utter garbage
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No, they can't. In your opinion, they might not be talented, but it takes talent, regardless of opinion, to get a record deal. End of story.

Souljah Boy and whoever the fuk else that guy mentioned after you, I personally don't find much urban music very good, but like it or not, the guys have talent.
I'm a huge 'Urban' music fan but you were way out of line for saying soulja boy has talent.
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Old 06-30-2008, 10:12 AM   #20
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No, they can't. In your opinion, they might not be talented, but it takes talent, regardless of opinion, to get a record deal. End of story.

Souljah Boy and whoever the fuk else that guy mentioned after you, I personally don't find much urban music very good, but like it or not, the guys have talent.
No, just because someone has a record deal does not mean they're good or talented, again, it's all what the record company WANTS. why do you think so many bands change their style? not because they want to thats for sure. lawls.
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No, they can't. In your opinion, they might not be talented, but it takes talent, regardless of opinion, to get a record deal. End of story.

Souljah Boy and whoever the fuk else that guy mentioned after you, I personally don't find much urban music very good, but like it or not, the guys have talent.
You're out of your mind if you condsider people like that talented and as such shouldn't be allowed to comment on music.
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No, they can't. In your opinion, they might not be talented, but it takes talent, regardless of opinion, to get a record deal. End of story.

Souljah Boy and whoever the fuk else that guy mentioned after you, I personally don't find much urban music very good, but like it or not, the guys have talent.
Most talented band out there

LOL GTFO
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Old 06-30-2008, 02:56 PM   #23
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I don't see why anybody has to hate on anybody else's musical tastes PERIOD. Any band with a record deal doesn't suck, simple as that. You may not like them, sure, but they have talent or else they wouldn't be making records.
I disagree.

Fall Out Boy
My Chemical Romance
Spice Girls
Backstreet Boys

I could go on and on.

A record deal doesn't mean ****.

All it means is that some executive saw something that they could make money from. Nothing to do with actual musical talent.
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Old 06-30-2008, 06:15 PM   #25
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Because it's filled with mediocre bands which are playing almost identical music.
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Because it's filled with mediocre bands which are playing almost identical music.
Not sure if I can take that as a compliment or a insult because most other genres are full of **** artists with a few gems.
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Because it's filled with mediocre bands which are playing almost identical music.
You can say this about any genre of music, the true innovators and trailblazers are few and far between.

I just love all the "true" metal fans that call metalcore gay, boring, or unoriginal, lol

give me a good breakdown, over an atonal guitar solo, or a "technical" dm riff any day.
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give me a good breakdown, over an atonal guitar solo, or a "technical" dm riff any day.
technical skill has nothing to do with anything goddamn it. Metalcore blows because it's try hard, shallow, boring, repetitive nonsense
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i rly dont care, i just hate it when ppl call metalcore deathmetl. like "as i lay dying is my favorite deathmetal" etc
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technical skill has nothing to do with anything goddamn it. Metalcore blows because it's try hard, shallow, boring, repetitive nonsense
how is metalcore any more repetitive than death metal?

your sweeping generalizations are a joke, there are metalcore bands, that sound completely different than one another. They don't ALL sound the same, if you're gonna take the time to put down a subgenre of music, at least listen to the band's music first before proclaiming them to be "shallow" or "repetitive nonsense." I kind of doubt that you've given any metalcore bands enough playtime to even give an insightful opinion.
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