Almost out of Flax seed, what's your opinion...

Gorilladf · 06-27-2008, 02:05 PM

I'm just about out of my cold rolled Flax seed. I've been eating it in oatmeal, yogurt, and sometimes salad. My question is, should I get another bag of it, or get the liquid kind? What do you do with liquid kind?

Crookshanks · 06-27-2008, 02:11 PM

I get it in capsule form. Now Brand is what I take.

Marius_Ursus · 06-27-2008, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Gorilladf

I'm just about out of my cold rolled Flax seed. I've been eating it in oatmeal, yogurt, and sometimes salad. My question is, should I get another bag of it, or get the liquid kind? What do you do with liquid kind?

I don't like the fatty acid profile of flax oil as much as other oils (fish, coconut), but for the one-two punch of lignans and fiber, go for milled or whole seeds!

Hey-Iwas51 · 06-27-2008, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Marius_Ursus

I don't like the fatty acid profile of flax oil as much as other oils (fish, coconut), but for the one-two punch of lignans and fiber, go for milled or whole seeds!

So do you figure flax oil has many of the good things fish oil does? I am thinking of anti-inflamatory, joint fixing stuff?

Just wondering because I ran out of fish oil last week, and my wife has this big bottle of flax oil she never uses, I have been substituting... seems like lot of my tendonitis wants to come back...

Dan

Do_Somethin · 06-27-2008, 02:29 PM

What does flax seed do?

ectoBgone · 06-27-2008, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Gorilladf

What do you do with liquid kind?

Nothing anymore. I used to get the liquid and just swig back a tablespoon once per day. It was tolerable at first, but unlike other foods where I got an acquired taste for it, it just became more and more obnoxious to me. I had a hard time figuring out what it could be combined with. I switched to Animal Omega, which has a pretty fancy EFA profile, but I'm thinking it's more expensive than what it's worth. My next plan is just to take plain ole' fish and flax oil capsules.

snoack · 06-27-2008, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Do_Somethin

What does flax seed do?

promotes CV health, for one thing. I take 2000mg a day in capsule form.

Gorilladf · 06-27-2008, 02:51 PM

Yeah I take the fish oil capsules as well. Maybe the flax seed is overkill if I'm doing that?

My joints feel fine.

Meh, its cheap and mixes well with oatmeal. Guess I'll pick up another bag.

dbx · 06-27-2008, 02:58 PM

A quality flax oil (in bottle) is said to be superior to any other form. Having said that, I switched to fish oil about 2yrs ago. Don't ask me to find it

, but when researching flax oil back then, I found some studies that suggested that flax oil might cause problems in men who already have prostate issues. To be clear, this was not substantiated, only suggested as possible at the time. Additionally, my own research brought me to the conclusion that fish oil had a slight edge in benefits (more bang for your buck, so to speak). So again, this was a personal choice based on my own research comparing flax vs fish.

Crookshanks · 06-27-2008, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by dbx

A quality flax oil (in bottle) is said to be superior to any other form. Having said that, I switched to fish oil about 2yrs ago. Don't ask me to find it

, but when researching flax oil back then, I found some studies that suggested that flax oil might cause problems in men who already have prostate issues. To be clear, this was not substantiated, only suggested as possible at the time. Additionally, my own research brought me to the conclusion that fish oil had a slight edge in benefits (more bang for your buck, so to speak). So again, this was a personal choice based on my own research comparing flax vs fish.

OH NO,You just had to bring up the prostate. I can't figure out if I have a problem or not and I've been reluctant to bring it up with my doc.

OutOfStep · 06-27-2008, 03:23 PM

I like hemp seed oil, it has a nice efa profile. I also use coconut oil and fish oil for my fat sources. I grind up flax seeds and use a tablespoon in my oats in the morning.

dbx · 06-27-2008, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Crookshanks

OH NO,You just had to bring up the prostate. I can't figure out if I have a problem or not and I've been reluctant to bring it up with my doc.

Well, if it makes you feel any better, lol, I know I have issues with it...and I haven't done anything either. But I also know that NO products contribute to it, and it's one of those....I know what to do, but don't want to stop using it. But yes, I take responsibility for my own action (or lack of).

Jules Verne · 06-27-2008, 03:36 PM

Flax and fish oils are completely different. Best to take both, or just fish oil and better (for general health) to eat ground flax seeds than just the oil.

m1k3g0rd · 06-27-2008, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by dbx

A quality flax oil (in bottle) is said to be superior to any other form. Having said that, I switched to fish oil about 2yrs ago. Don't ask me to find it

, but when researching flax oil back then, I found some studies that suggested that flax oil might cause problems in men who already have prostate issues. To be clear, this was not substantiated, only suggested as possible at the time. Additionally, my own research brought me to the conclusion that fish oil had a slight edge in benefits (more bang for your buck, so to speak). So again, this was a personal choice based on my own research comparing flax vs fish.

I read something to this effect just recently, although I don't remember where. I think it might have been that Dr Weil guy. The article definitely mentioned that the seeds are better for men due to the indications of prostate problem aggravated by the oil. I've been using the ground up seeds on my oatmeal for several years.

illriginalized · 06-27-2008, 05:42 PM

I take liquid form... and always use flax with fish oil

Karl_Hungus · 06-27-2008, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by dbx

A quality flax oil (in bottle) is said to be superior to any other form. Having said that, I switched to fish oil about 2yrs ago. Don't ask me to find it

, but when researching flax oil back then, I found some studies that suggested that flax oil might cause problems in men who already have prostate issues. To be clear, this was not substantiated, only suggested as possible at the time. Additionally, my own research brought me to the conclusion that fish oil had a slight edge in benefits (more bang for your buck, so to speak). So again, this was a personal choice based on my own research comparing flax vs fish.

This is true -- There is a positive correlation between the amount of alpha-linolenic acid consumed and prostate cancer.

http://jn.nutrition.org/cgi/content/full/134/4/919

Secondly, the body is pretty inefficient at converting ALA to EPA/DHA, so it is better to simply get it from the fish oils which are already very high in EPA/DHA.

illriginalized · 06-27-2008, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Karl_Hungus

This is true -- There is a positive correlation between the amount of alpha-linolenic acid consumed and prostate cancer.

http://jn.nutrition.org/cgi/content/full/134/4/919

Secondly, the body is pretty inefficient at converting ALA to EPA/DHA, so it is better to simply get it from the fish oils which are already very high in EPA/DHA.

damn... my friend told me about it two nights ago and I never bothered to look it up. =\

Karl_Hungus · 06-27-2008, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by tropszzz

Well if you read the study carefully and read other studies as well as use statistics you will find that taking Flax has positives that far outweighs the negatives

Heart Disease deaths in USA last year 652,091

Prostate Cancer Deaths in USA last year 28,905

Higher levels of ALA has been proven to "significantly lower incidence of fatal coronary heart disease"

And high levels of ALA in the blood "showed a slightly increased risk or prostate Cancer."

True, but so does fish oil. So with fish oil, I can derive the heart healthy benefits without the added risk of prostate cancer.

Marius_Ursus · 06-27-2008, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Hey-Iwas51

So do you figure flax oil has many of the good things fish oil does? I am thinking of anti-inflamatory, joint fixing stuff?

Just wondering because I ran out of fish oil last week, and my wife has this big bottle of flax oil she never uses, I have been substituting... seems like lot of my tendonitis wants to come back...

Dan

EPA and DHA are way higher in fish oil. That's what you want for inflammation reduction.

Whole flax seeds give you the oil plus the fiber for regularity and CV health plus the lignans that act as an Aromatase inhibitor. That means lower conversion of pre hormones to estrogen which in turns means more T! Hooray!

Karl_Hungus · 06-27-2008, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by tropszzz

Not the same....do more in depth research and you will see that you are talking apples and oranges...

Well, according to the article, the probable mechanism by which ALA exerts its protective effects is by reducing cardiac arrhythmias (and hence sudden deaths)....which is also one of the big benefits of fish oil.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18541600

Another article suggesting similar functions...

http://eurheartjsupp.oxfordjournals..../3/suppl_D/D26

Interesting article from the American Heart Association:

http://www.americanheart.org/present...dentifier=4632

And then there is this:

http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/abstract/74/4/457

I'm always interested in learning about the effects of different nutrients etc., so if there is something know about ALA that gives it protective effects above and beyond those from fish oil, please feel free to post it. I'll certainly revise my views on ALA if you are correct.

Karl_Hungus · 06-27-2008, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Marius_Ursus

EPA and DHA are way higher in fish oil. That's what you want for inflammation reduction.

Whole flax seeds give you the oil plus the fiber for regularity and CV health plus the lignans that act as an Aromatase inhibitor. That means lower conversion of pre hormones to estrogen which in turns means more T! Hooray!

Yeah, I agree -- Everything I've read suggests that actually eating the seeds is much better than just taking the oil.

Darrett · 06-28-2008, 01:25 PM

okay I am still learning and apparently I guess I made a good call for different reasons LOL.

I put in 2 table spoons of ground up flax seed and 1 cup of plain yogurt in my morning shake. Usually.

The reason I did it, was the research I rad (I was reseearching fat loss and building muscle etc.) basically said that flax seed and ygourt both have things in it to help the body metabolize and process fat or something like that.

*Question: I am taking pill that has Omega-3,6, and 9's in it, is it bad good, no difference? Is there too much, especially since I am taking flax seed too?

Its 1200 mg of Fish, Flax, Safflower & Borage Oil, called Your Life Natural Super Omega

10 Calories, 1 gram of fat
Omega 3's = 375mg (EPA = 180mg, DHA = 120mg, ALA = 75mg)
Omega 6's = 187mg (CLA = 140mg, GLA =11mg, LA = 36mg)
Omega 9's = 43mg (OA = 43mg)

Ingredients: Fish OIl (Anchovy, Bonito,, Clupea, Salmon, Sardine and Sprat) Gelatin, Safflower Oil, Glycerin, FLaxseed Oil, Borage Seed Oil, d-Alpha Tocopherol (soy).

Gorilladf · 06-30-2008, 07:52 AM

Dang... I'm glad I asked the question. I'll stick with my fish oil and crushed flax seed. Seems like the best combo.

btalk · 06-30-2008, 08:23 AM

I used flax seeds for a while, but have now switched over to chia seeds. In my opinion, they are a much better alternative.

Hey-Iwas51 · 06-30-2008, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Marius_Ursus

EPA and DHA are way higher in fish oil. That's what you want for inflammation reduction.

Whole flax seeds give you the oil plus the fiber for regularity and CV health plus the lignans that act as an Aromatase inhibitor. That means lower conversion of pre hormones to estrogen which in turns means more T! Hooray!

Very cool info... I can use the T, but don't want to antangonize the prostate, it is already slightly enlarged... so, maybe the compromise is to go back to fish oil, and throw in a little flax along with it, just not as much as the fish O.

Thanks.
Dan

eldawg · 06-30-2008, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by btalk

I used flax seeds for a while, but have now switched over to chia seeds. In my opinion, they are a much better alternative.

Cool...much better deal than the Salba stuff at my supermarket. From what I read, chia is good stuff!

5krunner · 06-30-2008, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by dbx

A quality flax oil (in bottle) is said to be superior to any other form. Having said that, I switched to fish oil about 2yrs ago. Don't ask me to find it

, but when researching flax oil back then, I found some studies that suggested that flax oil might cause problems in men who already have prostate issues. To be clear, this was not substantiated, only suggested as possible at the time. Additionally, my own research brought me to the conclusion that fish oil had a slight edge in benefits (more bang for your buck, so to speak). So again, this was a personal choice based on my own research comparing flax vs fish.

I agree, and only take fish oil now too. Taking both would be overkill IMO.