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    Why does bread cause water retention?

    Over the last few months ive basically cut all types of bread out of my diet, in favour of sweet potatoes, oatmeal etc. as i heard bread causes water retention?

    Is this true? and are there any other hidden foods that cause water retention? cottage cheese? :S

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    Originally Posted by Thehawk01 View Post
    Over the last few months ive basically cut all types of bread out of my diet, in favour of sweet potatoes, oatmeal etc. as i heard bread causes water retention?

    Is this true? and are there any other hidden foods that cause water retention? cottage cheese? :S

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    people hold very little water btw, bread shouldnt be a issues here!
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    Originally Posted by Thehawk01 View Post
    Over the last few months ive basically cut all types of bread out of my diet, in favour of sweet potatoes, oatmeal etc. as i heard bread causes water retention?

    Is this true? and are there any other hidden foods that cause water retention? cottage cheese? :S

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    Of course. Simple carbs spike insulin, which in turn causes water retention.
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    Originally Posted by Npeart View Post
    Of course. Simple carbs spike insulin, which in turn causes water retention.
    Since when is whole grain bread a simple carb?

    I bet it's the fiber + the fact that bread is (usually) made of wheat, which is harder for some people to digest (not allergy-related).

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    Originally Posted by Spottydog View Post
    Since when is whole grain bread a simple carb?

    I bet it's the fiber + the fact that bread is (usually) made of wheat, which is harder for some people to digest (not allergy-related).

    Why you worried so much about it anyway? Strutting round shirtless much?
    Where in his post does he say "whole grain?" He just said, "bread."

    Whole grain bread would be a complex carb.
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    Originally Posted by Npeart View Post
    Of course. Simple carbs spike insulin, which in turn causes water retention.
    How exactly does an insulin spike cause water retention?
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    Originally Posted by Npeart View Post
    Of course. Simple carbs spike insulin, which in turn causes water retention.
    I am on the anabolic diet and because of this weekly my glycogen stores are replenished with a higher carbohydrate intake, if the OP's water retention is like that of what I have just mentioned (a result of glycogen stores being replenished):

    Carbohydrates from whole grain or sugar would have the same effect, both cause this water retention because both contribute to glycogen store replenishment.
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    Originally Posted by iceypain View Post
    How exactly does an insulin spike cause water retention?
    Well, an insulin spike is required for creatine transport, right? So, how watery do you get on creatine? Also, ever hear of "spilling over?" It's when you ingest too many carbs and the next day you look watery, puffy and soft. I cannot give you the scientific explanation, but I do know simple carbs spike insulin and that can cause the body to hold water, which is why bb'ers have to drop water precontest during their carb up.
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    Talking water retention and carbs as it was explained to me.

    First of all to the guy that posted this, you avatar picture looks great. Moving on though, the water retention was explained to me this way. When we eat anything, oats, potatoes bannanas, pizza, anything with carbs. The digestion process starts and as the food is broken down these carbs (or sugars if you will) enter our blood stream. Causing a rise in blood sugar, when blood sugar goes up the body responds by releasing insulin to facilitate the transport of these sugars into the cells to replenish the glycogen stores. However, in order to get into your tissues and replenish glycogen these sugars need a carrier. water! That's right, water! Your body uses water as a vehicle to shuttle the carbohydrates into the cells to replenish your glycogen stores. Basically every carbohydrate molecule that crosses your cell membranes needs to take a few water molecules with it or else it couldn't cross the cross the membrane. There's no way around this really, it's just how our bodies chemistry works. You could dehydrate yourself after carbing up I would imagine; but this water retention mechanism is also what gives your muscles that nice full look when you've been eating good. Any how, I can't remember the exact mechanism but that is basically how it works I found this explanation in "Serious Strength Training" by Tudor O. Bompa. Hope it helped
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    Originally Posted by DaBurg3r View Post
    First of all to the guy that posted this, you avatar picture looks great. Moving on though, the water retention was explained to me this way. When we eat anything, oats, potatoes bannanas, pizza, anything with carbs. The digestion process starts and as the food is broken down these carbs (or sugars if you will) enter our blood stream. Causing a rise in blood sugar, when blood sugar goes up the body responds by releasing insulin to facilitate the transport of these sugars into the cells to replenish the glycogen stores. However, in order to get into your tissues and replenish glycogen these sugars need a carrier. water! That's right, water! Your body uses water as a vehicle to shuttle the carbohydrates into the cells to replenish your glycogen stores. Basically every carbohydrate molecule that crosses your cell membranes needs to take a few water molecules with it or else it couldn't cross the cross the membrane. There's no way around this really, it's just how our bodies chemistry works. You could dehydrate yourself after carbing up I would imagine; but this water retention mechanism is also what gives your muscles that nice full look when you've been eating good. Any how, I can't remember the exact mechanism but that is basically how it works I found this explanation in "Serious Strength Training" by Tudor O. Bompa. Hope it helped
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    p.s. the body strives to break all carbohydrates down into glucose. Complex carbs have to be more fully digested before being broken down into glucose. The reason controlling blood sugar is important is because if the body has more sugar circulating in the blood than it's tissues can absorb and use, these excess sugars are metabolized by the liver and stored as fatty tissue. Simple sugars like sucrose and dextrose easily overwhelm the bodies insulin response, leading to fat storage. Complex carbs are broken down into glucose at a slower and steady rate which the body is better able to use. Thanks, any comments would be welcome.
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    every gram of carb has some amount of water in it right? as you store carbs you store water.
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    Every food has water in it, yes. But the real source of the water retention is fluid intake that occurs with diet. For example, the body won't put on a pound from simply eating 100 grams of dry oatmeal and nothing else. But if a person eats 100 grams of oatmeal and drinks a half liter of water it's guaranteed that the body will hold a significant amount of that ingested water. Hoping this makes sense.
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    yeah sorry should of said i meant wholegrain bread not white, i hear ezekiel bread is a good alternative though, shame its so hard 2 find in the UK...
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    I wouldn't worry about water retention, assuming you aren't 2 weeks out from a competition.
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    im pretty sure it has a lot do with glycogen!!!!!!
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    Originally Posted by Npeart View Post
    Where in his post does he say "whole grain?" He just said, "bread."

    Whole grain bread would be a complex carb.
    As is white bread.
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    Originally Posted by DaBurg3r View Post
    First of all to the guy that posted this, you avatar picture looks great. Moving on though, the water retention was explained to me this way. When we eat anything, oats, potatoes bannanas, pizza, anything with carbs. The digestion process starts and as the food is broken down these carbs (or sugars if you will) enter our blood stream. Causing a rise in blood sugar, when blood sugar goes up the body responds by releasing insulin to facilitate the transport of these sugars into the cells to replenish the glycogen stores. However, in order to get into your tissues and replenish glycogen these sugars need a carrier. water! That's right, water! Your body uses water as a vehicle to shuttle the carbohydrates into the cells to replenish your glycogen stores. Basically every carbohydrate molecule that crosses your cell membranes needs to take a few water molecules with it or else it couldn't cross the cross the membrane. There's no way around this really, it's just how our bodies chemistry works. You could dehydrate yourself after carbing up I would imagine; but this water retention mechanism is also what gives your muscles that nice full look when you've been eating good. Any how, I can't remember the exact mechanism but that is basically how it works I found this explanation in "Serious Strength Training" by Tudor O. Bompa. Hope it helped
    wow, that was very well put. kinda felt like i was taking a journey on the magic school bus

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    As is white bread.
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    Glycogen in general causes water retention
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    This thread demeans this board and makes as us all a bit dumber.
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    maybe there is big quantity of sodium
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    Are we talking about glycogen retetion here or water retention underneath the skin? Everybody is different when it comes to water retention underneath the skin. It could be caused from things like carb sensitivity, or allergies. Bread isn't any worse when it comes to water retention than any other carb. It just depends on how your body handles it.
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