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    abs i have tried for a long time to get a 6pack to prove my father wrong but more and more it seems he is right i cant get on

    i have all but the lower which i have no clue why

    i mean i went from 200 to 140 in a month in a half from mono does that have any affect ?

    any one got anything that would help?


    also forgot to say i got hyper thryiod
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    Originally Posted by downsetgo33 View Post
    abs i have tried for a long time to get a 6pack to prove my father wrong but more and more it seems he is right i cant get on

    i have all but the lower which i have no clue why

    i mean i went from 200 to 140 in a month in a half from mono does that have any affect ?

    any one got anything that would help?
    try some serious diet and low cardio, 100% guarante
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    Originally Posted by downsetgo33 View Post

    i mean i went from 200 to 140 in a month in a half from mono does that have any affect ?



    If this is true, you had to have lost a ton of muscle.
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    whats mono and wtf did u do to lose 60lbs in one month, 15lbs a week wtf? thats over 2lbs a day? did u eat ne thing?
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    "mono" is short for mononucleosis...a viral disease similar to Epstein Barr syndrome......


    here is a link:

    http://www.healthline.com/adamconten...andriskfactors



    This OP has to get himself healthy first before worrying about abs....despite the reputation of mono as a "kissing" disease ( as it is spread by saliva), it is more a condition of being run down....
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    6'1 at 162lbs. That would lead me to believe the OP would have abs showing, since generally that would be low bodyfat. However after a 60lb crash, I could see losing a ton of muscle mass. Which now leads me to believe the OP is skinny fat.

    So.....op, I suggest start lifting heavy in the gym. Not ab work, doing real exercises, the primary heavy compounds. Bench press, bentover row, pull up, shoulder press, deadlift, and squat. Build up your overall muscle mass, and it will indirectly work the hell out of your abs, which should get them to some decent form.

    After you've been doing the basics for awhile, then you can toss in some heavy ab work if you want, to try to grow the muscles and get your coveted six pack if it isn't showing by this point (and I'd be amazed if it wasn't).
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    Originally Posted by downsetgo33 View Post
    abs i have tried for a long time to get a 6pack to prove my father wrong but more and more it seems he is right i cant get on

    i have all but the lower which i have no clue why

    i mean i went from 200 to 140 in a month in a half from mono does that have any affect ?

    any one got anything that would help?
    I also hope you weren't lifting with mono. While the spleen is severly swollen, it could easily rupture from heavy lifting and over exertion.
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    Originally Posted by Randeep.Singh View Post
    whats mono and wtf did u do to lose 60lbs in one month, 15lbs a week wtf? thats over 2lbs a day? did u eat ne thing?
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    haha thanks all and wtf is op?


    but ya i got mono like my sof to junior year in highschool

    and right now im not bad in fat just in the lower part of my abs you cant tell but .... it doesnt turn into muscle i have tryed alot of stuff

    like boulder meth and halocore which i took last jan to get around 10 lbs in a month that i have kept on and now im on another cycle of it

    as for diet what should i be eating right now when i wake up i have a protien bar take my pills and noexploide and hit the gym up when i get home i eat some oatmeal and another protien bar when heading to work then for lunch get a subway wrap from there i go lift again head home and noramly eat 1/2 lb of turkey which is like 93/7

    what should i be doing differntly and what do you mean by low cardio i normaly jump rope
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    op means original poster,
    gettin definition in abs is for the most part about ur diet watch wat u eat, to bring them out try leg raises, also fat doesnt turn into muscle
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    ya i try to i mean i dont eat crap i dont drink crap lol i drink coffee unsweet tea and water as for sweets i hardly ever eat them


    idk but im about to start up Electricity on monday with some cardo to see if it helps http://www.atpelpaso.com/p_ephedra.html
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    Dieting is more then sweets and sugary beverages. Consider taking a trip into the nutrition section on this forum.
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    Originally Posted by downsetgo33 View Post
    haha thanks all and wtf is op?


    but ya i got mono like my sof to junior year in highschool

    and right now im not bad in fat just in the lower part of my abs you cant tell but .... it doesnt turn into muscle i have tryed alot of stuff

    like boulder meth and halocore which i took last jan to get around 10 lbs in a month that i have kept on and now im on another cycle of it

    as for diet what should i be eating right now when i wake up i have a protien bar take my pills and noexploide and hit the gym up when i get home i eat some oatmeal and another protien bar when heading to work then for lunch get a subway wrap from there i go lift again head home and noramly eat 1/2 lb of turkey which is like 93/7

    what should i be doing differntly and what do you mean by low cardio i normaly jump rope
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    I'm not familiar with them, but it sounds like halocore and boulder meth are pro hormones? If so, what spurred you to try one at 18 and younger?

    You are relying too much on protein bars. Those are probably the worst way to get your protein. I mean if you are in a bind, by all means, it is better than hitting up the vending machines at work for a bag of cheetos. But you are at home, make some food.

    Diet should consist of a meal every 2-3 hours. Protein at every meal, get fibrous veggies with as many meals as possible (corn and potatoes do not count, they are starches). When you get carbs, make sure they are whole grains. Eat healthy fats throughout the day.

    Just to let you know, subway is a decent option if you have to eat out, but you are probably better off making your own wraps at home and taking them with you.


    Low cardio = little cardio. Do just a minimum to keep your CVS (cardiovascular system) well, and that is it. you need to put on some muscle mass.
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    also...

    if lifting 2 times a day to much?

    normally i go for around 30 before i got to work and 30 when i get home from work

    basically the same if not a little different work out
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    Originally Posted by downsetgo33 View Post
    also...

    if lifting 2 times a day to much?

    normally i go for around 30 before i got to work and 30 when i get home from work

    basically the same if not a little different work out
    generally 2 a days would be too much (over a long period of time) but you are only doing 30 minutes, so that shouldn't be bad.

    The biggest thing for you to gain weight, is you need to eat more. I have always been the skinny kid. I didn't break 100lbs until 9th grade. Then as high school went on, and poor eating + partying took it's toll I was skinny fat. Then I got into working out some, and slowly learning more and fixing diet, I became pretty much just skinny again. Still no where I wanted to be. I finally started lifting heavy and learned how to manage a solid diet, and went on some bulks. I now hover around 165-170, and if I'm on a good bulk, I've neared 185 twice.

    As long as you are lifting pretty heavy, start eating more, and you'll gain mass. Then worry about a cut again to get those abs to show.
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    during my 30 mins workout i normally dont stop unless to get a quick sip of water and or change weights which is why they are so short i cant seem to make a work out go any longer than that ...

    is that bad?
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    eat protien + fat and substitute all your carbs for green veggies and fruits. I guarantee you in 30 days your 6pack will be showing.
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    Originally Posted by downsetgo33 View Post
    during my 30 mins workout i normally dont stop unless to get a quick sip of water and or change weights which is why they are so short i cant seem to make a work out go any longer than that ...

    is that bad?
    what is your current routine like?

    exercises, sets, reps, etc.
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    I say cut another 40 pounds and maybe they will show.
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    Originally Posted by chazzy1864 View Post
    what is your current routine like?

    exercises, sets, reps, etc.
    monday- traps shoulders abs

    taps shrugs with dumbells about 5 sets of 10
    shoulders dont know the name of it and over head press total around 10 sets
    abs random

    tuesday- bi's back

    bi's curls with dumbels 3 sets of 7 then preacher curls then cool down with half curls
    back some machine they have up at my gym and rows

    wed- legs abs

    legs squat and lunges till i cant stand
    abs random

    thursday- chest tri's

    chest iso lifts noramlly 3 sets on each one which is 4
    tris pull downs and dont know the name

    friday- traps shoulders abs

    same as monday
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    You probably lack the overall muscle mass for definition.

    Throw a good 20 pounds of muscle on your frame then cut back again and you'll have some abs.

    6'1 160 is skinny as all hell.
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    i was thinking that but the thing is i cant gain any weight to save my life no matter how much i work out i will get stronger ya but mass not so much

    this cycle tho i have seen a bit of difference in my size ill get pics as soon as i can

    i was hoping to get 175 but idk if that will happen
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    why do you have a trap shoulder abs day, twice a week? Seems excessive to me.


    Seeing as what your goals are, I want to suggest a full body split (although I am a bit of an advocate for it).

    You could do it M/W/F and cardio on Tuesday/Thursday. Then rest Sat/Sun. While eating in a caloric surplus, you should have no problem putting on some mass.

    However, if nothing else, perhaps a push day, a pull day, and a leg day or something?

    Another split I like is Back/Chest day and Shoulders/legs day (pretty much horizontal and vertical), you do it on a schedule something like Back/chest on Monday, shoulder/legs on Tuesday, rest wednesday, Back/Chest on Thursday, and Shoulders/legs on Friday, rest sat/sun.
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    Originally Posted by chazzy1864 View Post
    why do you have a trap shoulder abs day, twice a week? Seems excessive to me.


    Seeing as what your goals are, I want to suggest a full body split (although I am a bit of an advocate for it).

    You could do it M/W/F and cardio on Tuesday/Thursday. Then rest Sat/Sun. While eating in a caloric surplus, you should have no problem putting on some mass.

    However, if nothing else, perhaps a push day, a pull day, and a leg day or something?

    Another split I like is Back/Chest day and Shoulders/legs day (pretty much horizontal and vertical), you do it on a schedule something like Back/chest on Monday, shoulder/legs on Tuesday, rest wednesday, Back/Chest on Thursday, and Shoulders/legs on Friday, rest sat/sun.
    one of the guys i started lifting with was a trainer for a bit and thats what he told me to do lol ><

    also when would you hit up arms?
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    Originally Posted by downsetgo33 View Post
    one of the guys i started lifting with was a trainer for a bit and thats what he told me to do lol ><

    also when would you hit up arms?
    With which routine?

    With my full body, I focus on the compounds, where arms are indirectly hit with the compounds for back and chest and shoulders, and at the end I'll do a few sets of isos, for biceps and triceps.

    Same thing pretty much for the others. Focus primarily on compounds, and toss some isos in at the end.
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    Originally Posted by Dave P View Post
    You probably lack the overall muscle mass for definition.

    Throw a good 20 pounds of muscle on your frame then cut back again and you'll have some abs.

    6'1 160 is skinny as all hell.

    hah whats the best way to get 20 lbs of muscle every thing i try no matter how much i eat i dont gain **** unless i take my pills
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    Dude thats a **** load of weight to loose in a month. Your strength must of plummeted on your bb.com charts... lol

    Have to tried to start lifting heavy again to gain muscle and just doing cardio along with it to burn the little bit of fat you have? (running, rowing, swimming...)
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