incline or oh press

tryn2getstrong · 06-24-2008, 04:19 PM

Had to take a week off cause I tweaked my back. So I'm going to take the opportunity to do the Bill Starr advanced 5x5. But which exercise would be better for overall strength, OH press or incline bench.

UhhWhatever · 06-24-2008, 05:45 PM

Whichever one needs more work.

t-butyl · 06-24-2008, 06:55 PM

was it your lower back I am guessing?

Kiknskreem · 06-24-2008, 06:57 PM

From a strength training perspective, if you are doing flat bench and overhead presses then there's really no need to do inclines.

Farley1324 · 06-24-2008, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiknskreem

From a strength training perspective, if you are doing flat bench and overhead presses then there's really no need to do inclines.

Just what I was thinking.

I'm still a Rippetoe nuthanger who thinks flat bench and OH Press in a 1:1 ratio is the way to go. (no homo)

Kiknskreem · 06-24-2008, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Farley1324

Just what I was thinking.

I'm still a Rippetoe nuthanger who thinks flat bench and OH Press in a 1:1 ratio is the way to go. (no homo)

Well even Rip will tell you that it depends on your training goals. 1:1 is a general recommendattion for strength and conditioning purposes.... if say you are a powerlifter or strongman, the ratio's will change in accordance with the required level of specialization.

Farley1324 · 06-24-2008, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiknskreem

Well even Rip will tell you that it depends on your training goals. 1:1 is a general recommendattion for strength and conditioning purposes.... if say you are a powerlifter or strongman, the ratio's will change in accordance with the required level of specialization.

Yes, but I've always wondered about the fact that one of hte main reasons for the 1:1 is rotator cuff health and how that impacts training with a need for specialization.

Kiknskreem · 06-24-2008, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Farley1324

Yes, but I've always wondered about the fact that one of hte main reasons for the 1:1 is rotator cuff health and how that impacts training with a need for specialization.

Its one of the trade-offs of being the best you can be in a particular sport.

ruga buga · 06-24-2008, 10:26 PM

personal preference- OH press... anyday

Rawngus · 06-24-2008, 10:58 PM

for overall strength OH press
for raising your bench Incline

i find little use for either in my training but some swear by it so whatever works for you man

swolegantor · 06-24-2008, 11:08 PM

am I the only person who thinks Oh pressing is (just a lil tincy bit) over-rated?

personally saying "overall" strength is a bit of a confusing statement. Over your ENTIRE body? over your upper? If scientests hooked all your muscles up to a machine ran electricity through them and measured the torque? what?

do them both, ever since the war they have been more leniant with this style of training.

Clayman · 06-25-2008, 07:32 AM

My first word of advice: don't start this program until your back is fully "un-tweaked" - the first 5 weeks of high volume are pure hell.

On a side note, I stuck to doing incline on my main 5x5 days (MWF) but still did some overhead work on saturdays.

Farley1324 · 06-25-2008, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by swolegantor

am I the only person who thinks Oh pressing is (just a lil tincy bit) over-rated?

personally saying "overall" strength is a bit of a confusing statement. Over your ENTIRE body? over your upper? If scientests hooked all your muscles up to a machine ran electricity through them and measured the torque? what?

do them both, ever since the war they have been more leniant with this style of training.

Yes, over your entire body. Think of it as an excercise with a very short kinetic chain...simply from where your back contacts the bench to your hands/the bar vs an excercise where the kinetic chain starts where your feet meet the floor and goes all the way up to your hands/the bar.

Excercises like squats, deadlift, OH Press are benefitial in that you use your entire body one way or the other.

tryn2getstrong · 06-25-2008, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by outpt

was it your lower back I am guessing?

yeah, I got twisted(for lack of a better word) on sld. I did the M workout yesterday and nothing hurt during the workout. Now I'm got some discomfort, but nothing that I'd consider pain. If it gets worse I'll drop everything where my back isn't full supported for a while. But I honestly think the "discomfort" isn't an injury issue.