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    Yesterday's Bodybuilders Opinion on Today's

    Bodybuilding has changed a great deal over the years. The pre-steroid era, the 'Glory Days' of the 70s, and when it morphed into the bulky look with Dorian Yates, who I suppose started that trend in a way.

    It has gone to another level with Ronnie Coleman and Jay Cutler. The champions from the other eras dislike the 'oversized' look of the recent Mr Olympia champions, and every time that I have interviewed one of them, it has come up. Lee Haney, Frank Zane and Robby Robinson all were consistent with that, and a 'blown out stomach' was specifically mentioned.

    Personally, I would rather see a more symmetrical look, especially on the person who takes the Sandow. The judges have changed as much as the contenders, so I suppose that we will have to wait for the next 'wave' to find out what is next.
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    Originally Posted by MuscleSportMag View Post
    The pre-steroid era, the 'Glory Days' of the 70s
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    Originally Posted by rocco421 View Post
    whats the point of arguing over ronnie and yates distention? theyre both nasty and should have been punished in the scoring. and its obvious cutler doesnt have a good taper but i give him props for having so much mass and having very little distension, few others have pulled that off.
    I concur. For all the grief that jay gets. He is the ONLY mass monster I've seen who seems to have eliminated his distension problem. Everyone else just got worse and worse over time.
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    Originally Posted by DiamondDelts View Post
    I concur. For all the grief that jay gets. He is the ONLY mass monster I've seen who seems to have eliminated his distension problem. Everyone else just got worse and worse over time.
    Is that a compliment for Cutler. Is the world about to end? (crouches in fear)lol
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    Originally Posted by DiamondDelts View Post
    I concur. For all the grief that jay gets. He is the ONLY mass monster I've seen who seems to have eliminated his distension problem. Everyone else just got worse and worse over time.
    its a toss up... whats worse destention (which seems to be able to deminish or cut back on) or a fridge taper?
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    Originally Posted by Newbtime View Post
    its a toss up... whats worse destention (which seems to be able to deminish or cut back on) or a fridge taper?
    Surely you'd choose big obliques being a muscle that can easily shrink over a big GH gut?
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    Originally Posted by Wilde View Post
    Surely you'd choose big obliques being a muscle that can easily shrink over a big GH gut?
    rons gut was putrid in 2004 - a year later in 2005 it was much smaller.....


    jays waist started to resemble a maytag in 04, has it gotten smaller? no.

    so what is your logic in saying that? jay waist has only gotten bigger and bigger... ronnies got big then he did something(what ever that something was) and got it much smaller.
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    Originally Posted by Newbtime View Post
    its a toss up... whats worse destention (which seems to be able to deminish or cut back on) or a fridge taper?
    Easy choice I'd rather have jays flat/wide midsection anyday over latter year ronnies distended/narrower midsection. The muscled potbelly look is truly disgusting and something I could never get used to and overlook.
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    Originally Posted by Guardian View Post
    These were both taken one year before retirement, you people tell me who had the worse midsection...




    Im not going to post anymore in this thread, the above is all the evidence and reasonable person needs, which isnt most people on this board.
    I just hope that someday you finally get to live out your dream of shoving your tongue up Dorian's ass.

    You know, like you metaphorically do all the time in this forum. Maybe someday you'll literally get to do it.

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    Originally Posted by Newbtime View Post
    rons gut was putrid in 2004 - a year later in 2005 it was much smaller.....


    jays waist started to resemble a maytag in 04, has it gotten smaller? no.

    so what is your logic in saying that? jay waist has only gotten bigger and bigger... ronnies got big then he did something(what ever that something was) and got it much smaller.
    pics of said smaller waist. Show comparisons
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    Originally Posted by freudslip View Post
    do you want me to post all the pictures of yates and his distention?
    Yes I would love it if you did. All distended guts belong in this thread!!!
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    Originally Posted by DiamondDelts View Post
    Easy choice I'd rather have jays flat/wide midsection anyday over latter year ronnies distended/narrower midsection. The muscled potbelly look is truly disgusting and something I could never get used to and overlook.
    I would much rather have distention then a fridge taper... for a couple of reasons


    Distention can be delt with (i.e ronnie 2004-2005)

    Jay also has distention he just controlls it much much better then ron.
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    Originally Posted by Newbtime View Post
    I would much rather have distention then a fridge taper... for a couple of reasons


    Distention can be delt with (i.e ronnie 2004-2005)

    Jay also has distention he just controlls it much much better then ron.
    pics of said smaller waist. Show comparisons
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    Originally Posted by caleb56 View Post
    pics of said smaller waist. Show comparisons
    teh sites with olympia pictures are going slow as hell for me, find them yourself

    http://www.bodybuildbid.com/articles...-pictures.html
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    Will an HGH gut even shrink back to normal? i dont see how your organs can shrink, but maybe.
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    Originally Posted by Newbtime View Post
    teh sites with olympia pictures are going slow as hell for me, find them yourself

    http://www.bodybuildbid.com/articles...-pictures.html
    I looked didnt look like it got smaller but it definetly didnt get worse.
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    Originally Posted by elyk View Post
    Will an HGH gut even shrink back to normal? i dont see how your organs can shrink, but maybe.
    Luckily for several competitors it does appear that your internal organs shrink down after discontinuing certain substances.
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    Originally Posted by Newbtime View Post
    I would much rather have distention then a fridge taper... for a couple of reasons


    Distention can be delt with (i.e ronnie 2004-2005)

    Jay also has distention he just controlls it much much better then ron.
    youre making it seem like ronnie had a good waistline in 2004-2005 which is definitely not the case. sure it was "better" but it was still bad by any standard
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    Originally Posted by leonidas300 View Post
    Luckily for several competitors it does appear that your internal organs shrink down after discontinuing certain substances.
    i think there is more to the guts of today then drugs....
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    Originally Posted by Newbtime View Post
    i think there is more to the guts of today then drugs....
    Like what?
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    Originally Posted by caleb56 View Post
    Like what?
    food consumption in large meals, water... etc.
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    Originally Posted by Newbtime View Post
    food consumption in large meals, water... etc.
    The bodybuilders of old ate just as much if not more.
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    Originally Posted by caleb56 View Post
    The bodybuilders of old ate just as much if not more.
    lol.... have u watched pumping iron? not even close.
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    I'd say 75% of those pictures of Dorian's Gut are on the Olympia stage.
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    The GH Gut is why most bodybuilders won't go main stream. I don't care if they have the "AA" look or not. Society as a whole consider a small waistline with hard abs to be the ideal look. No matter how blonde and blue eyed Jay is that waistline of his is NOT marketable.
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    Originally Posted by Newbtime View Post
    lol.... have u watched pumping iron? not even close.
    Havent seen pumping iron but I've seen one of Ronnie's DVDs and he doesnt really eat monstrous amounts of food where you'd go "oh that must play a role in his distention". It's something in the drugs and the drugs alone.
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    Originally Posted by MuscleSportMag View Post
    Bodybuilding has changed a great deal over the years. The pre-steroid era, the 'Glory Days' of the 70s, and when it morphed into the bulky look with Dorian Yates, who I suppose started that trend in a way.

    It has gone to another level with Ronnie Coleman and Jay Cutler. The champions from the other eras dislike the 'oversized' look of the recent Mr Olympia champions, and every time that I have interviewed one of them, it has come up. Lee Haney, Frank Zane and Robby Robinson all were consistent with that, and a 'blown out stomach' was specifically mentioned.

    Personally, I would rather see a more symmetrical look, especially on the person who takes the Sandow. The judges have changed as much as the contenders, so I suppose that we will have to wait for the next 'wave' to find out what is next.
    lol pre-steroid era?

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    **** these threads are so pointless, get to thier size and tell me how big your stomach gets.
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    Originally Posted by Guardian View Post
    These were both taken one year before retirement, you people tell me who had the worse midsection...




    Im not going to post anymore in this thread, the above is all the evidence and reasonable person needs, which isnt most people on this board.
    Evidence for what?

    They both had rotten distended midsections and Ronnie's was bigger. I don't think anyone's disputing that.
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    Originally Posted by Duckenheimer View Post
    Evidence for what?

    They both had rotten distended midsections and Ronnie's was bigger. I don't think anyone's disputing that.
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