how long can u run t3 for? dose 100-125???

[Eliiias]

how long can u rung t3 at this dose?
thx

[1bebigger]

been said its good to take a break around 6 weeks.

[Emmortal]

Originally Posted by Eliiias

how long can u rung t3 at this dose?
thx

I know guys who run it year round just so they can eat whatever they want.

[MAXMUSCLE86]

Originally Posted by Emmortal

I know guys who run it year round just so they can eat whatever they want.

Amazing...T3 is one of the few bodybuilding substances I have seen first hand to perm. **** people up. I know 3 different people with lifelong thyroid problems from t3. I am suprised by how lightly people take thryroid hormones on these boards.

[Vadim Beliaev]

you must have an unique gift in seeing things that no one else does
damn

[cockmcocks]

Originally Posted by Eliiias

how long can u rung t3 at this dose?
thx

25-50mcg /wk.

got the best results when i bump my dose to 50mcg.

[Emmortal]

Originally Posted by Vadim Beliaev

you must have an unique gift in seeing things that no one else does
damn

Yea, I've never, and I mean never, heard of anyone who's had permanent thyroid issues with t3...

[MAXMUSCLE86]

The gym I work at is a local bodybuilding gym...two are local NPC bodybuilders and one is a female pro. I know guys who won't even touch the stuff.

[bongd]

Quick question, just how "safe" is T3? If someone runs a moderate dosage is there much of a chance of fukcing up your thyroid?

Mine is where it should be right now, but I don't want to try T3, get blood work and find out that I'm perma-fukced. Is this all just fear mongering like the dangers of DNP? Sorry for the semi-hijack.

[1bebigger]

Originally Posted by Vadim Beliaev

you must have an unique gift in seeing things that no one else does
damn

yea.. u should tell them to post there blood work and build a website so there is some livin walking proof of some t3 ****ups. after could countless hours of research on t3, I couldn't find one valid, decent documented study of t3 ****ing someone up for good.

[Vadim Beliaev]

there have been legitimate clinical studies done on people who were wrongly prescribed thyroid meds for HRT, those people were taking synthetic T3 and T4 for decades.
After stopping those meds their thyroid recovered just the same as a group who took T3/T4 for a few weeks.

It is a simple negative feedback loop, controlled by TSH release by the brain.
Thyroid also recovers much faster compared to HPTA shutdown by AAS, simply because thyroid insufficiency can lead to death. In this way it is pretty robust.

Only way that i see your thyroid being somehow affected by synthetic meds is having a thyroid problem to begin with.
If you have a normal healthy thyroid, there is no way you can **** it up with synthetic T3 administration.
NO WAy

[icetrauma]

6 weeks at the longest but you must pyramid up to that dose and pyramid down.

[Vadim Beliaev]

yea lets blatantly ignore everything i just said

[1bebigger]

Originally Posted by Vadim Beliaev

yea lets blatantly ignore everything i just said

must be his rep power. . been wanting u to chime in on t3 for sometime now. I have a supply of cytomix (60mcg t3 20mcg t4) im a basic test/dbol stack and weight 194 @15%bf. what's your thoughts on half a tab a day on a 4 day work out 2 day cardio with a 3500-4000 calorie diet? vadim- please, your expertise would be greatly appreciated. Ellias.. sorry for the semi hijack but vadim's input is always a wealth of good professional advice that is beneficial for this entire section

[Vadim Beliaev]

hmm
its a weird mix you have there, most mixes have higher T4 and lower T3

you can treat it like regular T3 though for all intents and purposes because 20 mcg of T4 is basically nothing.

IMO, go for it, i used low dose T3 (25 mcg) for a very long time before (4-5 months), and it did help me stay leaner than usual. No problems at all when discontinued, either.

[Manyforms]

Originally Posted by Vadim Beliaev

hmm
its a weird mix you have there, most mixes have higher T4 and lower T3

you can treat it like regular T3 though for all intents and purposes because 20 mcg of T4 is basically nothing.

IMO, go for it, i used low dose T3 (25 mcg) for a very long time before (4-5 months), and it did help me stay leaner than usual. No problems at all when discontinued, either.

Thanks for the response. I am curious, in your experience do you think a lower long term dose is better for maintaining LBM while running t3 than short bursts of 75 mcg to 150 mcg.

[1bebigger]

good.. so don't be disappointed when the scales stop moving and im startin to lean out? do u see ay problem with running this with letro or adex? research chems of course. and did u take your t3 n the morning on a empty stomach or with first meal which is usually first thing. any sides to mention at this low dose, and did u incorporate much cardio? could dropping 4% bf on a decent diet be unreal with this low dose?

[Lunk]

Originally Posted by Vadim Beliaev

there have been legitimate clinical studies done on people who were wrongly prescribed thyroid meds for HRT, those people were taking synthetic T3 and T4 for decades.
After stopping those meds their thyroid recovered just the same as a group who took T3/T4 for a few weeks.

It is a simple negative feedback loop, controlled by TSH release by the brain.
Thyroid also recovers much faster compared to HPTA shutdown by AAS, simply because thyroid insufficiency can lead to death. In this way it is pretty robust.

Only way that i see your thyroid being somehow affected by synthetic meds is having a thyroid problem to begin with.
If you have a normal healthy thyroid, there is no way you can **** it up with synthetic T3 administration.
NO WAy

x2

[whitegato1488]

Originally Posted by Vadim Beliaev

hmm
its a weird mix you have there, most mixes have higher T4 and lower T3

you can treat it like regular T3 though for all intents and purposes because 20 mcg of T4 is basically nothing.

IMO, go for it, i used low dose T3 (25 mcg) for a very long time before (4-5 months), and it did help me stay leaner than usual. No problems at all when discontinued, either.

ive been trying to try that but every time i try it it lowers my cortisol to low and my knee's start feeling real dry and it makes it hard to do leg wprk outs.

[gaberox]

Originally Posted by Eliiias

how long can u rung t3 at this dose?
thx

I wouldnt stay on that high a dose for very long(100-125mcg).Everyone is worried about messing up their thyroid but its you heart health thats a bigger concern.40% of the extra cals burned from increased ATP production while on T3 is from work done by the heart.Remember you are self inducing hyperthyroidism which is a serious medical condition.Ive been on 25-37.5 for quite a while now and find it works perfectly for maintaining a very lean physique with no health problems.

[drolfreak]

Originally Posted by Vadim Beliaev

IMO, go for it, i used low dose T3 (25 mcg) for a very long time before (4-5 months), and it did help me stay leaner than usual. No problems at all when discontinued, either.

I've been considering something like this, any chance of PMing me more info, like what you ran alongside it, diet, etc. Thanks Vadim!

[MAXMUSCLE86]

Big Cat Article, bb.com:

Both hyper-and hypothyroidism can have severe consequences on an individual, such as goiters and other nasty stuff, so messing with your thyroid is not something I would advise to beginners. As with insulin, misuse of this compound can leave you dependent on exogenous T3 for the rest of your life (remember Frank Zane?). So some caution and research is required before putting Cytomel in your body.


http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/catcytomel.htm

[WOT]

Originally Posted by Vadim Beliaev

you must have an unique gift in seeing things that no one else does
damn

lol ....

there are so many articles on how little REAL impact has on actual thryroid function , even at high dosages. Its catabolic affect on muscle and protein mass IMO is a much bigger point for concern...

WOT

[Vadim Beliaev]

Originally Posted by MAXMUSCLE86

Big Cat Article, bb.com:

Both hyper-and hypothyroidism can have severe consequences on an individual, such as goiters and other nasty stuff, so messing with your thyroid is not something I would advise to beginners. As with insulin, misuse of this compound can leave you dependent on exogenous T3 for the rest of your life (remember Frank Zane?). So some caution and research is required before putting Cytomel in your body.


http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/catcytomel.htm

outdated and wrong

[1bebigger]

franks one of the guys at his gym.

[brook011]

Do you have to be on some sort of AAS to use T3 or can you simply keep your caloric and protein intake up?

[gymrat76]

Hi. I have a question, if any T3 experts can help me out.

Basically, I have been taking T3 for I believe 2.5 months. Started at 25mcg per day. I slowly upped the dose every 4-5 days. Stayed at 4x25mcg per day for a short 10 days period Then pyramid'ed down again the same way. Now is the end of cycle. Maybe it is not super necessary, but I am actually even breaking a 12.5mcg (half) pill into two and taking in morn and even...just so that it will be as smooth of a possible transition, from t3 to natural...Basically, cycle came to an end now.

Now..is my natural thyroid hormone halted, will it stay stopped for a few weeks...

or...question to ask is...how do I know now, if my thyroid hormone went back to its natural course as in before cycle??

[macdaddy69]

thats not real smart seems how you naturally produce about 25mcg

[ProWrestleFan]

Hmm, I never read about T3 and didn't know what it was... I guess now I wont even research it... Seems pointless unless your making money at this and about to step on a big stage.

[MarkVI]

Originally Posted by ProWrestleFan

Hmm, I never read about T3 and didn't know what it was... I guess now I wont even research it... Seems pointless unless your making money at this and about to step on a big stage.

not when we're all worried about aesthetics