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Any need to take Creatine on non-training days?
I was thinking about beginning a creatine supplement. The product Labrada CreaLean2 suggests taking it on training days. Is there any need to take them on non-training days. Thanks in advance.
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06-20-2008, 08:13 AM
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I've read that some people take greenMag (creatine) on their off days too. I don't but was wondering the same thing.
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06-20-2008, 08:18 AM
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from my understanding when i was taking creatine about 7 years ago, it's not something you just take before your workouts. in fact, taking it before your workout will do nothing cuz it's not that fast acting. you're supposed to take it every day to let the creatine levels in your muscles gradually build up more and more. then again that was a long time ago, maybe they've come out with some kind of new, faster-absorbing creatine that you take right before a workout, i dunno
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06-20-2008, 08:22 AM
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Mine says take immediately following a workout. I take 5g (aka 1 heaping teaspoon) everyday about lunch time. Did I mention I started taking it last week?
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06-20-2008, 08:33 AM
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Creatine just makes you bloated. It's something 24 Hour Fitness tries to shill despite you telling them you want to get lean, not bulky.
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06-20-2008, 08:39 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flair4TheGold
Creatine just makes you bloated. It's something 24 Hour Fitness tries to shill despite you telling them you want to get lean, not bulky.
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Creatine is by far one of the best suppliments out there for building muscle. And it's not really being bloated, your muscles just swell a bit. I'd listen to them a little more.....but buy from here. It's a lot cheaper.
~you can still be lean while taking creatine.
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06-20-2008, 08:39 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flair4TheGold
Creatine just makes you bloated. It's something 24 Hour Fitness tries to shill despite you telling them you want to get lean, not bulky.
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Not true. Creatine does not make you bloated.
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06-20-2008, 08:40 AM
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Take creatine everyday, very effective for either cutting or bulking. It doesn't just make you bloated.
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06-20-2008, 08:43 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flair4TheGold
Creatine just makes you bloated. It's something 24 Hour Fitness tries to shill despite you telling them you want to get lean, not bulky.
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Not tru as well, so many different types out these days, back in 1998 maybe, with the good ole MONO stuff. Not today son!!! More pure concentrated stuff out on the market these days.
Also the body has to have some time in order to absorb and get full affects of the strength gains in creatine, it's okay to take during off days below 200lbs 2.5 grams and above 200lbs 5 grams.
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06-20-2008, 08:43 AM
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I find it funny that the guys that are saying creatine doesn't work are not cut. The two guys that are saying it works great are ripped like a mother.
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06-20-2008, 08:45 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ski23man
Not tru as well, so many different types out these days, back in 1998 maybe, with the good ole MONO stuff. Not today son!!! More pure concentrated stuff out on the market these days.
Also the body has to have some time in order to absorb and get full affects of the strength gains in creatine, it's okay to take during off days below 200lbs 2.5 grams and above 200lbs 5 grams.
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Thanks dude, you rock!
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06-20-2008, 08:45 AM
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The common recommendations that I see from people in the know for creatine are. I've followed this protocol for a while now and am happy with it.
-take a good, pure German Monohydrate (no need for any of these fancy creatine supplements).
-the loading phase is not needed.
-5g a day take it post workout on training days, timing on non-training days is less important. I've heard taking it with breakfast recommended though.
-no need to spike your insulin or pair it up with some transport mechanism
-no need to cycle it.
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06-20-2008, 08:48 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fattrucker
I find it funny that the guys that are saying creatine doesn't work are not cut. The two guys that are saying it works great are ripped like a mother.
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That's the nature of these forums. They guys that are ripped and speaking from experience usually have people at high BF% arguing with them about stuff like this. Experience vs BB cliche's is the norm around these parts.
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06-20-2008, 08:50 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jimsmith9999
The common recommendations that I see from people in the know for creatine are. I've followed this protocol for a while now and am happy with it.
-take a good, pure German Monohydrate (no need for any of these fancy creatine supplements).
-the loading phase is not needed.
-5g a day take it post workout on training days, timing on non-training days is less important. I've heard taking it with breakfast recommended though.
-no need to spike your insulin or pair it up with some transport mechanism
-no need to cycle it.
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Yup, thats right on point with what I do, except on non-training days I take it before breakfast. Stick with good old mono, no need to get caught up with fancy blends. Mono--> cheap, effective, proven
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06-20-2008, 08:52 AM
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Quote:
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Thanks dude, you rock!
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Thanks buddy!
Here's what I've taken this year without bloating Pure Micronized stuff (also may I add CHEAP as HELL, LOL)
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/hp/creatine.html
ReAsOns:
Micronized creatine's smaller particle size means quicker digestion and faster utilization.
More Efficient
20 times more total surface area for greater uptake into the bloodstream.
Greater Purity
Micronizing creatine produces a more pure creatine. By increasing the total processing steps and purification procedures, Micronized creatine yields a finished product substantially more pure.
[ Top 5 Sellers ]
1. Higher Power Micronized Creatine
2. AST Micronized Creatine
3. Dymatize Micronized Creatine
4. ABB Crea-Force
5. Supplement Direct Micronized Creatine Monohydrate
Mixes Easier and Better
Micronized creatine has 20 times more surface area. Greater service area means easier, faster and more complete mixing.
No Stomach Upset
Regular creatine monohydrate sits in the gut longer. This causes discomfort to many users. Micronized creatine goes into solution better and leaves the gut quicker causing no stomach upset.
Better Results
Micronized creatine offers 2000% more particle surface area for better utilization, better uptake, and faster results.
Degree of micronization.
Some companies have a micrconized to a 200 mesh. (Supplement Directs)
For those that do not know a higher number means a finner/fluffier powder.
P.S. Just switched to Green Mag from Controlled Labs http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/clabs/mag.html (not that much $$$ either) because I was blown away with their Purple Wrath (BCAA's, maintain my muscle will on cut), White Flood (Energy while on low carb diet)
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06-20-2008, 08:52 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OfficerCartman
Yup, thats right on point with what I do, except on non-training days I take it before breakfast. Stick with good old mono, no need to get caught up with fancy blends. Mono--> cheap, effective, proven
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What's the reason for pre-breakfast on non-training days - quicker uptake on an empty stomach?
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06-20-2008, 09:00 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ski23man
Thanks buddy!
Here's what I've taken this year without bloating Pure Micronized stuff (also may I add CHEAP as HELL, LOL)
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/hp/creatine.html
ReAsOns:
Micronized creatine's smaller particle size means quicker digestion and faster utilization.
More Efficient
20 times more total surface area for greater uptake into the bloodstream.
Greater Purity
Micronizing creatine produces a more pure creatine. By increasing the total processing steps and purification procedures, Micronized creatine yields a finished product substantially more pure.
[ Top 5 Sellers ]
1. Higher Power Micronized Creatine
2. AST Micronized Creatine
3. Dymatize Micronized Creatine
4. ABB Crea-Force
5. Supplement Direct Micronized Creatine Monohydrate
Mixes Easier and Better
Micronized creatine has 20 times more surface area. Greater service area means easier, faster and more complete mixing.
No Stomach Upset
Regular creatine monohydrate sits in the gut longer. This causes discomfort to many users. Micronized creatine goes into solution better and leaves the gut quicker causing no stomach upset.
Better Results
Micronized creatine offers 2000% more particle surface area for better utilization, better uptake, and faster results.
Degree of micronization.
Some companies have a micrconized to a 200 mesh. (Supplement Directs)
For those that do not know a higher number means a finner/fluffier powder.
P.S. Just switched to Green Mag from Controlled Labs http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/clabs/mag.html (not that much $$$ either) because I was blown away with their Purple Wrath (BCAA's, maintain my muscle will on cut), White Flood (Energy while on low carb diet)
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Thanks for the info, if I had rep to give on this post, I'd give it...I owe ya one.
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06-20-2008, 09:04 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jimsmith9999
What's the reason for pre-breakfast on non-training days - quicker uptake on an empty stomach?
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In the past, I've heard for non-training days to just down it before a meal, preferably breakfast for better absorption. I just continue that since it's worked fine for me. Plus, I just think its more convenient that way. On training days, I just toss it into my pwo shake, but since I don't include that shake on non-training days, I don't have to worry about taking my creatine later on since I get it out of the way first thing in the morning
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06-20-2008, 09:05 AM
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Thanks for the info, if I had rep to give on this post, I'd give it...I owe ya one.
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No probs bro!
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06-20-2008, 09:14 AM
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I've used mono in the past but I thought I'd try out the GreenMag creatine for a change. It says to use pre-workout. Why?
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06-20-2008, 09:14 AM
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I find it funny that the guys that are saying creatine doesn't work are not cut. The two guys that are saying it works great are ripped like a mother.
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Not cut? Really, are you in any position to be criticizing anyone? I'm merely going on what it did for me, which is nothing. The time I took that picture, I had been lifting but not eating the right way like I am now.
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theoretically, would creatine work on a cut to increase strength? right now im trying to increase strength whie trying to lose fat/inches...
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I am new to Creatine products.
I currently take SizeOn so far no weight gain or bloating but my muscles feel fuller and I could lift more just after a few dose. I am Cutting and Lifting but definitely not trying to bulk. I like my weight and my size just trying to burn fat.
Now when you guys say 5G is that all you suppose to take?
Because SizeOn is 43g for one scoop ... are you not suppose to take that much on a workout date?
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The point is, I'm sure creatine works for some people. But the original poster is 5'11" and 334 pounds. Creatine is the last thing he needs to be thinking about. A clean diet and establishing a normal exercise routine is more important than worrying about supplements.
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06-20-2008, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by gixxer0.6g
I've used mono in the past but I thought I'd try out the GreenMag creatine for a change. It says to use pre-workout. Why?
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Basically because their formula has Magnesium Creatine Chelate (fast absorption) in it, so u can choose to take it before workout and notice a strength gain or pump, what have you. Works either way to sit dormant or on the go... Dynamic creatine is a way to think about it.
I normally take 2.5 in dispersements three times daily, morning, lunch, pre-workout.
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Originally Posted by wesley101
I am new to Creatine products.
I currently take SizeOn so far no weight gain or bloating but my muscles feel fuller and I could lift more just after a few dose. I am Cutting and Lifting but definitely not trying to bulk. I like my weight and my size just trying to burn fat.
Now when you guys say 5G is that all you suppose to take?
Because SizeOn is 43g for one scoop ... are you not suppose to take that much on a workout date?
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5g is the standard maintenance dose. But that's for an average sized person
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06-20-2008, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Flair4TheGold
The point is, I'm sure creatine works for some people. But the original poster is 5'11" and 334 pounds. Creatine is the last thing he needs to be thinking about. A clean diet and establishing a normal exercise routine is more important than worrying about supplements.
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Maybe you should read a little more....in the last 9 months I have eaten clean and lost 75 lbs. I'm not eating chinese or mexican food.
I have been eating and working out clean. So yeah, the comments were not about me. They were in regards to others who were ripped and you who are not.
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Maybe you should read a little more....in the last 9 months I have eaten clean and lost 75 lbs. I'm not eating chinese or mexican food.
I have been eating and working out clean. So yeah, the comments were not about me. They were in regards to others who were ripped and you who are not.
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I'll take my "not omg ripped and cut" over your body type anyday. Again, you fail to realize that the body those gentlemen in this thread have were gotten by hard work and determination over several months. I'm only 6 weeks into my clean diet and workout. Please refrain from making such broad statements again.
You also have to realize it will take more than Creatine to help.
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Originally Posted by Flair4TheGold
I'll take my "not omg ripped and cut" over your body type anyday. Again, you fail to realize that the body those gentlemen in this thread have were gotten by hard work and determination over several months. I'm only 6 weeks into my clean diet and workout. Please refrain from making such broad statements again.
You also have to realize it will take more than Creatine to help.
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You are not even worth my time...yeah, I''m fat, you win a prize, Captain Obvious!
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Originally Posted by Flair4TheGold
The point is, I'm sure creatine works for some people. But the original poster is 5'11" and 334 pounds. Creatine is the last thing he needs to be thinking about. A clean diet and establishing a normal exercise routine is more important than worrying about supplements.
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WRONG! building muscle is very important to losing fat, in so many ways. more muscles increase metabolism, lifting burns calories and continues burning them for hours after the workout, and it allows you to build muscle instead of losing it like you would with only diet and cardio. any supplement that helps him build more muscle is also going to help him lose more fat.
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