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06-19-2008, 01:39 AM
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Bush pardons himself from any possible warcrimes?
What the hell. We should all look at this and be sick about how the separation of powers is a marble cake of bull****.
Talk about this to anyone who will listen if you are upset. This is our government and things like this should not exist.
http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=31014
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06-19-2008, 01:46 AM
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Unbelievable.
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06-19-2008, 01:55 AM
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LOL WUT
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Milk is for babies! Men drink beer!
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06-19-2008, 02:05 AM
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Has been 'there'...
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Yep, the rest of the world is jealous of America's freedom and justice...
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06-19-2008, 02:13 AM
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all wars are crimes, just sayin
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06-19-2008, 04:05 AM
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We can only hope that oneday, Bush, Cheney, Wolfowitz - and all the rest of them - face justice, and take some comfort in that even if they never do in this life, they will in the next.
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06-19-2008, 06:01 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by -calvus-
What the hell. We should all look at this and be sick about how the separation of powers is a marble cake of bull****.
Talk about this to anyone who will listen if you are upset. This is our government and things like this should not exist.
http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=31014 |
The URL kinda suggests something.
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06-19-2008, 06:06 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by -calvus-
What the hell. We should all look at this and be sick about how the separation of powers is a marble cake of bull****.
Talk about this to anyone who will listen if you are upset. This is our government and things like this should not exist.
http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=31014 |
Can we be linked to another source?
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06-19-2008, 06:15 AM
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Giving yourself a retroactive pardon kind of de-facto admits you comitted war crimes.
I can't see how this would pass and if it did how it could be the least bit constitutional.
Article I, Section 9
"No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed."
Ex post facto
ex post facto adj. Formulated, enacted, or operating retroactively. [Med Lat., from what is done afterwards] Source: AHD
In U.S. Constitutional Law, the definition of what is ex post facto is more limited. The first definition of what exactly constitutes an ex post facto law is found in Calder v Bull (3 US 386 [1798]), in the opinion of Justice Chase:
"1st. Every law that makes an action done before the passing of the law, and which was innocent when done, criminal; and punishes such action. 2d. Every law that aggravates a crime, or makes it greater than it was, when committed. 3d. Every law that changes the punishment, and inflicts a greater punishment, than the law annexed to the crime, when committed. 4th. Every law that alters the legal rules of evidence, and receives less, or different, testimony, than the law required at the time of the commission of the offense, in order to convict the offender."
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06-19-2008, 06:28 AM
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buffalo soldier
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i-am-bored ?
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06-19-2008, 07:23 AM
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It was on youtube a few years ago, I'll look for it.
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06-19-2008, 07:25 AM
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Here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHQ7Prwh7Gc
Personally, I'm skeptical when someone says "cronies" in something that is supposed to be objective journalism.
edit: sorry he doesn't say "cronies" he says "stooges"...
Last edited by Zipsfb; 06-19-2008 at 07:30 AM.
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06-19-2008, 07:26 AM
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I didn't just fart, but in case you smell something, it wasn't me.
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06-19-2008, 07:26 AM
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what a joke, I wish I could pardon myself from all past and future crimes =)
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06-19-2008, 07:29 AM
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Quote:
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what a joke, I wish I could pardon myself from all past and future crimes =)
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not that you committed any
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06-19-2008, 07:32 AM
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Quote:
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not that you committed any
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exactly
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06-19-2008, 07:45 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Adam228
Giving yourself a retroactive pardon kind of de-facto admits you comitted war crimes.
I can't see how this would pass and if it did how it could be the least bit constitutional.
Article I, Section 9
"No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed."
Ex post facto
ex post facto adj. Formulated, enacted, or operating retroactively. [Med Lat., from what is done afterwards] Source: AHD
In U.S. Constitutional Law, the definition of what is ex post facto is more limited. The first definition of what exactly constitutes an ex post facto law is found in Calder v Bull (3 US 386 [1798]), in the opinion of Justice Chase:
"1st. Every law that makes an action done before the passing of the law, and which was innocent when done, criminal; and punishes such action. 2d. Every law that aggravates a crime, or makes it greater than it was, when committed. 3d. Every law that changes the punishment, and inflicts a greater punishment, than the law annexed to the crime, when committed. 4th. Every law that alters the legal rules of evidence, and receives less, or different, testimony, than the law required at the time of the commission of the offense, in order to convict the offender."
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Uh, did you read your own post? How could a pardon be an ex-post-facto law?
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06-20-2008, 12:11 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RIP Quorthon
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The source came from CNN. I-am-bored just hosted.
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