Do shoulders get their due?

[larkinforce]

I tried the techniques that Glass showed in the video this morning. I can truely say they worked the muscles better. The weight I was using had to drop but I can really feel the differance. Thanks for pointing out the video.

[HeavyAssault]

I have always had a weird pain in the right shoulder, even when i was young. It doesn't feel like the rotator cuff, its in the front of the shoulder and just constantly feels like a pulled muscle.

My left is my problem shoulder. I hurt it in a car wreck when I was 19, then
'finished if off' later that year playing football. Shoulder separation that never healed quite right. I'm trying PT now to see if it'll come around, and may go under the knife if it doesn't

[Old-Time-Lifter]

How are the methods in the video linked on the front page working out for those who said they would try them?

Oddly, I'm looking to focus on my shoulders for 3 months or so before trying to push my bench back to my best lift (from 25 or so years ago).

Decided I'd better fortify my shoulders first.

Anyways, how are the methods from the Glass video working?

[Iron Barbarian]

Mine do. I work Shoulders twice a week.

[Skidmarx]

I do shoulders and arms on the same day, in two giant set workouts.

4 x Military press/barbell shrugs/dumbbell side laterals

3 x hammer curls/tricep overhead extensions
2 x bicep curl bar/skull crushers

Takes me about 30 minutes.

[IR45N]

Kind of an old post but since it got bumped, I really look forward to seated barbell presses. A year ago I tried a so so 135# rep but things slipped back. Now, 125# for 5r is tough but doable.

Careful behind the neck presses with the Smith (coming down to the top of the head or just below) feel fine. And patience and persistence has kicked in with single dbell front and lateral raises (somehow I don't care for doing both arms at a time).

Only thing that seems to mess up the whole shoulder mechanism are upright rows, so have finally ditched them.

[Braindrop]

I give shoulders their own day.

[mavrick77]

Just wondering.

You hear leg day, back day, chest day.....rarely shoulders day.

Is there some unwritten rule that shoulders are never trained before chest? I seem to think so; but I'm ready to hear otherwise.

I'm thinking low reps (5 or fewer) and shoulder training don't go hand in hand and that med to high reps (8-15,20) with a lighter weight will be more productive over time.

Shoulder injuries usually caused by something other than shoulder training results in shirking or limiting shoulder training (a vicious circle).

A recent FX '30 days' show clip showed an NFL player (30 days in a wheel chair) using light weight dbells for front raises. Need to keep reminding self; 'if they're good enough for him; good enough for you'.

Since Wed. the gym is usually busy, going to try all shoulders tonight and hit the chest Fri.

Kind of leaves arms to be split in two of the four days unless I'd go back to 5/day training...the old school method.

Just some random thoughts on shoulders; open to any rebuttals, suggestions.

no you should never train your delts before you train your chest if worked on the same day...your delts are a smaller muscle group, and should be trained last, unless you are trying to focus on them....

thats why most people who train one body part a day, will train chest on monday, then give shoulders till thursday, because they are worked secondarily on chest day.

[Old-Time-Lifter]

I'm interested if any one has been using Mr. Glass's techniques and if so how they have worked out for them?

That's why I bumped this one.................

[johnrich69]

I do shoulders on their own day.

My trainer says until my shoulders get up to par, not to do any shrugs. Sloping traps with no shoulders looks like crap.

lol, I completely agree with this. I've been fortunate to have good broad shoulders and as much as I love working my traps, I'm always trying to keep them in proportion because they seem to grow really easy for me. If only I was blessed with a perfect 6 pack!! grrrrrrr lol. Anyway, We have one guy in our gym who proudly proclaims himself "MR. Traps" has sloping shoulders and to me looks a little silly with them being so out of proportion. Today is my shoulders day and I plan on crushing them!! lol. I've given my shoulders a day of their own because they're just that important to me. Good luck brother, keep those shoulders broad!!!!!

[Old-Time-Lifter]

I've always had an easy time growing traps. But, one thing I think about alot of BB's is that their traps are too small........ this likely comes from my roots in powerlifting though.......... lol

[IR45N]

I do shoulders on their own day.

My trainer says until my shoulders get up to par, not to do any shrugs. Sloping traps with no shoulders looks like crap.

I believe this & have the 'crap look' proof but I still can't resist doing shrugs/reverse shrugs. I'm counting on patience and a better delts program to eventually balance this out.