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    how much dextrose is needed PWO

    I weigh like 170 lb, how much dextrose is needed my shaker bottle?

    and also what does it taste like

    and what if i am cutting?
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    0, dextrose is empty calories.

    Eat real food
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    Originally Posted by shookers View Post
    0, dextrose is empty calories.

    Eat real food
    so what would be good then?

    i use shaker cup so i need something convenient, nothing blending
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    its a sugar... no you dont need it
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    so what should I eat then
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    You should read the stickies in the areas you have a question in (the nurtition section) and then if you have questions ask them.
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    Take dextrose or maltodextrin post workout. they're simple carbs and spike your insulin which means greater absorbtion of protein. take about 80 - 100g carbs worth of dextrose/maltodextrin with whey protein. then take a full meal about 1 hour after.
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    Originally Posted by AntM1564 View Post
    You should read the stickies in the areas you have a question in (the nurtition section) and then if you have questions ask them.
    the post workout one is wrong. it advises people to take a complex carb. simple carbs are much better.
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    Originally Posted by 3dd View Post
    the post workout one is wrong. it advises people to take a complex carb. simple carbs are much better.
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    Take dextrose or maltodextrin post workout. they're simple carbs and spike your insulin which means greater absorbtion of protein. take about 80 - 100g carbs worth of dextrose/maltodextrin with whey protein. then take a full meal about 1 hour after.
    No, you're wrong. It's funny because your pre workout meal is probably still digesting even after you workout. Food doesn't shoot though you in a matter of minutes. Spiking your insulin any time of the day is pretty pointless. You won't see any significant difference.
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    Originally Posted by Tussmann57 View Post
    No, you're wrong. It's funny because your pre workout meal is probably still digesting even after you workout. Food doesn't shoot though you in a matter of minutes. Spiking your insulin any time of the day is pretty pointless. You won't see any significant difference.
    No I'm not. If you eat a solid meal 1 hour pre workout or a liquid one 1/2 hour pre workout, a decent amount of it should be digested before your post workout meal (about 2 - 2.5 hours after).

    Insulin sensitivity is greatest post workout and a food with a high GI rating is needed to create a spike. Eating something with a high rating (eg honey) will create the spike and bring glucose to your muscles and increase amino acid uptake.

    Insulin has also been shown to stop protein breakdown.

    Spiking your insulin any other time of the day is pretty pointless. When insulin is released, the liver begins to store glucose as glycogen.

    This is fine when your liver needs its glycogen level replenished, such as after a workout. If the liver is saturated any extra glucose will be transported to fat cells.
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    Originally Posted by 3dd View Post
    No I'm not. If you eat a solid meal 1 hour pre workout or a liquid one 1/2 hour pre workout, a decent amount of it should be digested before your post workout meal (about 2 - 2.5 hours after).

    Insulin sensitivity is greatest post workout and a food with a high GI rating is needed to create a spike. Eating something with a high rating (eg honey) will create the spike and bring glucose to your muscles and increase amino acid uptake.

    Insulin has also been shown to stop protein breakdown.

    Spiking your insulin any other time of the day is pretty pointless. When insulin is released, the liver begins to store glucose as glycogen.

    This is fine when your liver needs its glycogen level replenished, such as after a workout. If the liver is saturated any extra glucose will be transported to fat cells.

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    I am thinking about using dex in my PWO shake, I think 50g is pretty standard but I am planning to start out with 30g. 80-100g is rediculous thats a large portion of your total carb intake in a day.
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    Originally Posted by yoj View Post
    I am thinking about using dex in my PWO shake, I think 50g is pretty standard but I am planning to start out with 30g. 80-100g is rediculous thats a large portion of your total carb intake in a day.
    Do take the dextrose. It is very beneficial (for the reason I stated above). A large portion of your carb intake should be pre and post workout. Try using the post workout carb calculator. Search it. It might give a more accurate amount.

    So take about 80 - 100g simple carbs post WO and about 50g complex carbs pre workout.
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    Originally Posted by shookers View Post
    0, dextrose is empty calories.

    Eat real food
    Originally Posted by davidthefat View Post
    its a sugar... no you dont need it
    both negged for being dumbasses

    you dont need it? empty cals?

    please explain to me how fast acting carbs taking PWO to restore muscle glycogen levels as quickly as possible, is empty and not needed?

    wow.....
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    I just use regular table sugar. Cuz its not very easy to get my hands on dex.

    To answer the OP's question, i personally think dex tastes much better than table sugar. Its a much less intense sweetness.

    I usually just adopt a scooper from an old protein tub and put two scoops (60-70 g) in my shake.
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    Originally Posted by 10TonBrick View Post
    both negged for being dumbasses

    you dont need it? empty cals?

    please explain to me how fast acting carbs taking PWO to restore muscle glycogen levels as quickly as possible, is empty and not needed?

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    Originally Posted by Tussmann57 View Post
    No, you're wrong. It's funny because your pre workout meal is probably still digesting even after you workout. Food doesn't shoot though you in a matter of minutes. Spiking your insulin any time of the day is pretty pointless. You won't see any significant difference.
    Well... spiking insulin whether it be from just protein, or just carbs, or carbs and protein, whether those carbs are simple or complex... its always a decent idea to increase insulin after your workout. Personally I don't think its necessary to take 100g of dextrose/maltodextrin... I just eat some oats and whey and they will by itself spike my insulin enough. Insulin is easily the most anabolic hormone in your body, and in a time where you are just getting out of a catabolic state, such that of which is occuring during a workout, you want nutrients delivered as efficiently as possible to the muscle.. both amino acids and glucose. There's a distinct reason tht research shows us the importance of nutrient timing after a workout for greater results.
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    Originally Posted by Tussmann57 View Post
    No, you're wrong. It's funny because your pre workout meal is probably still digesting even after you workout. Food doesn't shoot though you in a matter of minutes. Spiking your insulin any time of the day is pretty pointless. You won't see any significant difference.
    wrong.

    withing minutes of ingesting dextrose (im talking like 3 mins) your blood gucose levels begin to rise. thus proving that the dextrose is alreadyn in your blood, and the protein is with it. you will see your BSL shoot up to like 130 or so, then back down to around 80 withing 15 mins about. it really does happen that fast
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    Anyone else agreethe sticky in the nutrition section needs changing?
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    Originally Posted by shookers View Post
    0, dextrose is empty calories.

    Eat real food
    not quite. you need something to spike your insulin, if its low gi carbs or gi carbs so you can drive that protein to the muscles for growth and repair.

    dextrose is ideal after a workout with protein.

    OP, your 170lbs, I would recommend you eat around 75-90g carbs post workout, maybe 30-40g from dextrose and the rest from oats or something, you do want whole foods post workout as well.

    Originally Posted by 10TonBrick View Post
    wrong.

    withing minutes of ingesting dextrose (im talking like 3 mins) your blood gucose levels begin to rise. thus proving that the dextrose is alreadyn in your blood, and the protein is with it. you will see your BSL shoot up to like 130 or so, then back down to around 80 withing 15 mins about. it really does happen that fast
    Originally Posted by larrythelobster View Post
    so what should I eat then
    lots of fruits post workout/oats with enough whey(~40-60g)

    agreed, my veins pop out like crazy post workout after carbs. even on high carb days when I dont workout my vascularity is through the roof(depends on how hydrated I well).
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