LSU's quest for raw elite at 198

[LSU1]

oh I see how it's gonna be... take my old standby lift that I used to be able to kick ass on and show me up, lmao - guess I'm gonna have to turn that around and keep kicking some butt on your ol' incline OH DB extensions then

dude, you are good peeps and it's all the much better to see you have success. if anyone deserves it, can't think of anyone better on the boards here.

thanks man, lol

**** im way behind on my tricep strength, im pretty sure you still kick my ass on that lift haha

[LSU1]

Bench

Ed Coan Bench Program Week 9

Bench Press

Last Time- 243x5, 243x5

This Time- 285x3, 285x3, 275x1 with better form (not in program)

Close Grip Bench Press

Last Time- 193x5, 193x5

This Time- 230x3, 230x3

Barbell Incline Touching Chest

Last Time- 185x5, 185x5

This Time- 225x3, 225x3

Incline OH DB Extension

Last Time- 100x8, 100x8, 100x8, 100x8

This Time- 100x9, 100x9, 100x9, 100x10

WG Upright Row

Last Time- 145x8, 145x8

This Time- 145x9, 145x9

Thoughts

-had to accellerate the program to week 9 in order to be on week 14 which is the final week when i will be competing
-was tough today, struggled with form on the bench sets, had a tough time keeping elbows in on my heavier sets, had em flared out a bit which is no good
-tucked on the 275 single which was very good and was a pretty fast rep
-was tired on everything else, came in really tired and feeling like **** but still hit all my numbers
-realistically a 300 paused bench is all i could possibly hope for in this competition at this point in my opinion, but hopefully the form will tighten up and i will get it going some more

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[nwskier]

thanks man, lol

**** im way behind on my tricep strength, im pretty sure you still kick my ass on that lift haha

for now, all I got is arms and lats so might as well blow those fockers up while picking up the pace on those rows.

damn you hit 295 for triples next week and you've surpassed me. bastard

[LSU1]

for now, all I got is arms and lats so might as well blow those fockers up while picking up the pace on those rows.

damn you hit 295 for triples next week and you've surpassed me. bastard

it will be done

all your goals are belong to me

[nwskier]

it will be done

all your goals are belong to me

haha, lol ya punk!

just for that, I'm gonna go crush a massive tricep/arm/pulldown session

[gjohnson5]

Why did you delete your rant
I was going to agree that nothing worth having will come easy. Pushing yourself to maximum effort should be the goal every time in the gym, tired , energetic or whatever

[matthor]

i thought those increases looked a bit much, got it done though. Bit of a shame the progression trend couldnt conitue but gotta meet the schedule and i reckon you'll be ok there. Keep that form on lock and you'll clear 300!

[LSU1]

haha, lol ya punk!

just for that, I'm gonna go crush a massive tricep/arm/pulldown session

ha, do it son, massive tris ftw!

Why did you delete your rant
I was going to agree that nothing worth having will come easy. Pushing yourself to maximum effort should be the goal every time in the gym, tired , energetic or whatever

no doubt man, i just deleted it bc i didnt want to offend anyone and have anyone get their panties in a bunch lol

i know what you mean man, i just dont get people who think that being weak and not trying to improve is a good thing when getting big is your goal. it does not compute

soooooo many examples of people getting stronger and bigger, not so much for staying weak and getting big

i thought those increases looked a bit much, got it done though. Bit of a shame the progression trend couldnt conitue but gotta meet the schedule and i reckon you'll be ok there. Keep that form on lock and you'll clear 300!

yea, it was alot, and i did a ****ty job warming up too

i hope so man, i think if i can get to around a 330 touch and go bench, i may be able to handle 305ish on paused bench

ill likely open up with something like 265

[mjw8204]

no doubt man, i just deleted it bc i didnt want to offend anyone and have anyone get their panties in a bunch lol

Now I wish I could have read it, lol.

[matthor]

well thats a solid effort considering you werent feeling 100%, didnt warm up well and had to skip a weeks progression. hopefulyl next time you feel better and can keep the form tight

[LSU1]

Now I wish I could have read it, lol.

lol nothing special.

just commenting on guys like that iskinny guy who seem to take pride in being weak and not caring about getting stronger. then you look at their weight and realize they have 14 inch arms and weigh 165.

then you look at a guy like layne who is 220 and deadlifts near 700 lbs and looks great. i just dont get it. and then these mini wanna be bodybuilders bashing anyone who likes strength training its just ridiculous

and the few big guys that promote that type of training and bash strength training look the same and are lifting the same **** for two years in a row. just kinda ridiculous to bash any type of training.

unless its the "stay weak" program or the 300 workout, it probably works

well thats a solid effort considering you werent feeling 100%, didnt warm up well and had to skip a weeks progression. hopefulyl next time you feel better and can keep the form tight

thanks man. i mean i hit the lift which was a massive pr for me, my prior best was 275x3 and this time i probably had 4 or maybe 5 witth 285

[matthor]

"stay weak" program - has a ring to it.

You grab that from t-nation?

[demike]

lol nothing special.

then you look at their weight and realize they have 14 inch arms and weigh 165.

Hey now, I am about 161lbs, but my arms are bigger than 14...lol...

Just messing with ya man. You are always going to have people talk about different training. Different things work for different people. Keep your training going strong so you can do well in that comp man.

[LSU1]

"stay weak" program - has a ring to it.

You grab that from t-nation?

lmao, yea its a chad waterbury special hahahaha

Hey now, I am about 161lbs, but my arms are bigger than 14...lol...

Just messing with ya man. You are always going to have people talk about different training. Different things work for different people. Keep your training going strong so you can do well in that comp man.

lol, but the difference is that you dont think you are a bodybuilding badass

ive got nothing against small dudes, but when i was 150 i wasnt telling people how to train and calling dudes much bigger and more accomplished than me idiots

[demike]

lol, but the difference is that you dont think you are a bodybuilding badass

ive got nothing against small dudes, but when i was 150 i wasnt telling people how to train and calling dudes much bigger and more accomplished than me idiots

I knew what you meant man, I just had to mess with ya though.

[LSU1]

I knew what you meant man, I just had to mess with ya though.

lookin solid in the avi man, alot of progres from when you started here

[demike]

lookin solid in the avi man, alot of progres from when you started here

Thanks dude, appreciate it. I have a starting pic and this pic one on top of the other in my journal if you wanted to see the progress.

Take it easy dude.

[matthor]

Thanks dude, appreciate it. I have a starting pic and this pic one on top of the other in my journal if you wanted to see the progress.

Take it easy dude.

impressive work!

if you were 5" taller, you'd be 190+

[spirit3530]

Hey... Pudz is the man. He is the Worlds Strongest Man x4 and has abs. So no excuses in here. You better outlift everyone at your meet then rip off your singlet and hit a ab and thigh, followed by a front db bi.

[demike]

impressive work!

if you were 5" taller, you'd be 190+

Thanks a lot man, appreciate it.

You got some definition, nice work yourself.

Okay I gotta go so I am not late for work, have a good one guys.

[mjw8204]

lol nothing special.

just commenting on guys like that iskinny guy who seem to take pride in being weak and not caring about getting stronger. then you look at their weight and realize they have 14 inch arms and weigh 165.

then you look at a guy like layne who is 220 and deadlifts near 700 lbs and looks great. i just dont get it. and then these mini wanna be bodybuilders bashing anyone who likes strength training its just ridiculous

and the few big guys that promote that type of training and bash strength training look the same and are lifting the same **** for two years in a row. just kinda ridiculous to bash any type of training.

I think it's silly there has to be so many "factions" on this forum anyway. I follow all kinds of journals - BBing, PLing, Oly, etc. It's great to see people push themselves and excel at whatever they're doing...and that's all that really matters.

One thing that does irritate me though is that it seems like there are some PLing oriented guys on here that want to tell everyone else that they should train that way even if they have more bodybuilding oriented goals. I agree it's definitely important to keep getting stronger, but that doesn't mean always doing 3-5RM training, either. Look at what I'm doing, for example, How long did I spend just spinning my wheels? When I switched more of a BBing style of training a couple of months ago my strength suddenly took off. I just don't think my body agreed with the constant 1-5RM style of training. It beat me up and got me nowhere. It obviously works great for a lot of people, but it doesn't mean those people should be telling others that their way is the only way. Unfortunately that happens way too often around here.

[LSU1]

Hey... Pudz is the man. He is the Worlds Strongest Man x4 and has abs. So no excuses in here. You better outlift everyone at your meet then rip off your singlet and hit a ab and thigh, followed by a front db bi.

lol, ill leave the posing to you my friend. you do it a hell of a lot better than i do anyway haha

I think it's silly there has to be so many "factions" on this forum anyway. I follow all kinds of journals - BBing, PLing, Oly, etc. It's great to see people push themselves and excel at whatever they're doing...and that's all that really matters.

One thing that does irritate me though is that it seems like there are some PLing oriented guys on here that want to tell everyone else that they should train that way even if they have more bodybuilding oriented goals. I agree it's definitely important to keep getting stronger, but that doesn't mean always doing 3-5RM training, either. Look at what I'm doing, for example, How long did I spend just spinning my wheels? When I switched more of a BBing style of training a couple of months ago my strength suddenly took off. I just don't think my body agreed with the constant 1-5RM style of training. It beat me up and got me nowhere. It obviously works great for a lot of people, but it doesn't mean those people should be telling others that their way is the only way. Unfortunately that happens way too often around here.

it is silly. at this point though there are just as many people saying do the 5x5 as the answer to any question even "what should i have for breakfast", as there are idiots who make dumbass jokes like "do wendlertoez". i might have thought that was funny when i was five and i was at about that level of comedic creativity.

both sides are idiots, both sides are completely useless. how many times do you see idiotic responses like the above in exercise forum threads? they are useless, and the worst part is, they arent funnny at all. at least be creative if you are going to say something that has no substance in a thread.

as for the training, most of the guys pushing that type of training arent even powerlifters and dont know what they are talking about. most powerlifting routines, including the one im on and using next, use a variety of reps and periodization.

of course at some point you have to train lower reps to get used to a competition as in a competition you have to do a 1rm. thats my problem at this point, im just not used to single rep lifts so im struggling and im much better at rep work.

the combinatino of the two will give best results in my opinion

as for your trianing and mine for that matter, its going great. both are different yet successful. we both found something we enjoy and are good at, so we roll with it no matter how "different" it may seem.

after all, we are still both lifting weights, how different is it really?....

[spirit3530]

Heavy is relative...although you shoud be lifting heavier (reps or absolute max) than you did last year this time to show progress not plateou.

The problem lies in were you lifting the weight with good form and now lifting a heavier weight. I personally know that some of my lifts in the early days were sh!tty, especially on chest day. As a result my chest growth suffered. These days I don't count reps that aren't with good form. I still might pull them off but you are more like to not see them in my journal.

Even older bodybuilders can still get stronger. Absolute max may stop but reps, less rest time between sets and speed can continue. The point is you go as far as you genetic limit. I highly doubt that is a 315lb squat 200lb bench and 400lb dead.

[LSU1]

Heavy is relative...although you shoud be lifting heavier (reps or absolute max) than you did last year this time to show progress not plateou.

The problem lies in were you lifting the weight with good form and now lifting a heavier weight. I personally know that some of my lifts in the early days were sh!tty, especially on chest day. As a result my chest growth suffered. These days I don't count reps that aren't with good form. I still might pull them off but you are more like to not see them in my journal.

Even older bodybuilders can still get stronger. Absolute max may stop but reps, less rest time between sets and speed can continue. The point is you go as far as you genetic limit. I highly doubt that is a 315lb squat 200lb bench and 400lb dead.

exactly. the drive to improve every day should never stop. because when you stop improving, you stop getting better and stop growing

[I_love_crows]

exactly. the drive to improve every day should never stop. because when you stop improving, you stop getting better and stop growing

Strength training FTW!



+ Wow, strong strength in your progress...

[LSU1]

Strength training FTW!



+ Wow, strong strength in your progress...

word, its so much more fun than 20 sets of curls lol

deadlifts today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[LSU1]

Coan Phillipi Deadlift Routine

Week 6

Deadlift (85%)

490x2

Speed Deadlift (70%)

405x3
405x3
405x3

Power Shrug with Deadlift Stance, paused at top for 1 sec

365x5
365x5
365x5

RDL

Last Time- 397x5, 397x5, 397x5

This Time- 405x5, 405x5, 405x5

BB Row

Last Time- 265x5, 265x5, 265x5

This Time- 275x5, 275x5, 275x5

WG Pulldown

Last Time- N/A

This Time- 190x5, 190x5, 190x5

GHR

Last Time- Green Band (140 at the top) Band x 5, Band x 5, Band x 5

This Time- +45x5, +45x5, +45x5

Review

-hybrid stance felt awesome
-speed off the floor is fantastic (had some powerlifters watchin my sets, said speed was very fast), no rounding of back at all, felt great
-didnt feel that heavy on the heavy set, felt like i could have done 5 or so
-accessory work was good, bb row felt quick and not too heavy, will increase that next time
-520 for a double next time

[mjw8204]

Whoa. That's some serious back work. 405 is impressive as hell for speedwork, AND for RDLs. And those rows are mind boggling. Nice work, Mark.

[PhreEkGarden]

Damn man, your rows kick my rows ass, lol. Something I believe I really need to work on. That may be contributing to my lack of lockout strength.

Next deadlift session bring a camera.

[LSU1]

Whoa. That's some serious back work. 405 is impressive as hell for speedwork, AND for RDLs. And those rows are mind boggling. Nice work, Mark.

thanks matt. i really felt good on the deadlifts today, the speed was awesome and i felt a lot of pop on my pulls

rows are good too, i will try to get some vids next week of a couple of things

Damn man, your rows kick my rows ass, lol. Something I believe I really need to work on. That may be contributing to my lack of lockout strength.

Next deadlift session bring a camera.

will have camera for the 520 pull no doubt

i think so too man, they contribute alot to upper back strength which is helpful on bench and also on deadlift. bringin em up certainly couldnt hurt