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    SPORTS SCIENCE - punching power, wtf?

    according to that show, chris byrd hit 1300 lbs punching power. with boxing gloves, Rampage hit 1900 lbs, and bas rutten hit 1300 lbs too, but with mma gloves... wtf? byrd would get a little more power with mma gloves n he hits WEAK.... bas only hit 1300 so wtf? then Rampage does 1900 lbs. i dont believe those tests....
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    maybe it was the way they threw the punch, rampage threw some crazy overhand right while im sure bas just threw a straight punch along with byrd
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    Yeah, Bas didn't throw a whole lot of weight behind that straight. Did you see his kicks, though? In the words of Randy Couture "Bas kicks like a mule!"
    Bas's kicks beat out a Muay Thai champion!
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    Originally Posted by GulfCoastAquari View Post
    Yeah, Bas didn't throw a whole lot of weight behind that straight. Did you see his kicks, though? In the words of Randy Couture "Bas kicks like a mule!"
    Bas's kicks beat out a Muay Thai champion!
    The Muay Thai guys stats were based off of knees I'm pretty sure.
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    The Muay Thai guy was also like half the size of Bas, wasn't he?
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    yeah, the knees of the thai boxer (70-odd kilos?) were the strongest strike of the show i believe.
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    Yeah, there's not really alot of science in that. Just alot of numbers thrown here and there to look impressive. If they'd accounted for weight, distance travelled to the target, and mode of technique, then maybe it'd be scientific.

    Instead it's just "OMG lookit how p0werfulllll!!!!1!!1"
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    Originally Posted by Harrowlled View Post
    Yeah, there's not really alot of science in that. Just alot of numbers thrown here and there to look impressive. If they'd accounted for weight, distance travelled to the target, and mode of technique, then maybe it'd be scientific.

    Instead it's just "OMG lookit how p0werfulllll!!!!1!!1"
    Agreed. I cant stand watching mythbusters either , is it too much to ask for people who account for variables.
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    Originally Posted by randomguy20 View Post
    according to that show, chris byrd hit 1300 lbs punching power. with boxing gloves, Rampage hit 1900 lbs, and bas rutten hit 1300 lbs too, but with mma gloves... wtf? byrd would get a little more power with mma gloves n he hits WEAK.... bas only hit 1300 so wtf? then Rampage does 1900 lbs. i dont believe those tests....
    Dont put any faith into those tests because they were all done on different machines with different calibration etc. and I doubt they were done along a scientific basis

    To compare punching power there would need to be a single scientific study done with all those athletes
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    You also have to take into consideration that usually a fighter (or anyone) cannot throw their best strike every time. There are these punching machines that you can hit and usually you need to hit it 5-10 times to get the best result. I don't know how manny times these guys were able to try but I doubt everyone hit them enough to get a real sense of their power (due to all the high tech sensitive equipment). And yes, Bas and Bryd's straight punch would/should be weaker than a full over hand right.
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    Originally Posted by SquatTillYaPuke View Post
    Agreed. I cant stand watching mythbusters either , is it too much to ask for people who account for variables.
    Did you see the one where they "disproved" that it's possible to break one sword with another? The total difference in torsion and meeting points between their "experiment" and how two swords would actually hit when swung by able skilled and bodied men made me want to rip the one guy's mustache off and choke the other with it.
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    ok i dunno... they said throw ur hardest punches... and thats what every1 threw. i guess maybe rampage threw a better punch. either way, byrd hit like 1300 lbs, plus a little more. like 1320 or something. so he hit that with boxing gloves, boxing gloves have more mass and are thicker padding, it definitely takes more power away than mma gloves do, maybe not a ton more, but some. so that means chris byrd hits harder than bas? if so, thats crazy. cus byrd hits like a pussy when u see his fights, even when hes opening up, he knocks out like no1... then u have boxers like klitschko that hit waaaayy harder than byrd, so what on those tests, klitschko would hit easy 2000s? lol... make that russian in the rocky movie look like a pussy
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    I'd love to work a Dynometer a bit
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    Bas rutten apparently off the charts

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    Would rather take an overhand from QJ than a straight right from Bas
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    Originally Posted by CunnyFunt View Post
    Bas rutten apparently off the charts

    off the charts baby!!!!!!!
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    so...can someone tell me what the difference is between a muay thai kick and an mma kick? besides bas rutten being loads bigger than that guy?
    dont be bitchin about somebody not being a mexican while ignoring someone who isnt irish.
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    they shoulda tested more powerful people. rampage n bas r good, but lol @ the small muy thai guy n chris byrd. samuel peter, klitshko, etc for boxing would test the most powerful, where as chris byrd is very low for punching power. for kicking id love to see Cro Cop shatter that dummy. massive lol @ Saku for wanting to take QJ's 1900 lb punch over Bas's 1300 lber. wat u wanna be like Ali?
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    Originally Posted by randomguy20 View Post
    according to that show, chris byrd hit 1300 lbs punching power. with boxing gloves, Rampage hit 1900 lbs, and bas rutten hit 1300 lbs too, but with mma gloves... wtf? byrd would get a little more power with mma gloves n he hits WEAK.... bas only hit 1300 so wtf? then Rampage does 1900 lbs. i dont believe those tests....
    the thing is they only get one chance to punch, they should punch like at least 10 times and then work out the mean punching power, that's how tests should be, you can't make many conclusions from one punch
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    Originally Posted by the_guvna View Post
    the thing is they only get one chance to punch, they should punch like at least 10 times and then work out the mean punching power, that's how tests should be, you can't make many conclusions from one punch
    they probably do...it's a tv show
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    Originally Posted by Renden View Post
    they probably do...it's a tv show
    they don't they only punch it one time
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    Originally Posted by Harrowlled View Post
    Did you see the one where they "disproved" that it's possible to break one sword with another? The total difference in torsion and meeting points between their "experiment" and how two swords would actually hit when swung by able skilled and bodied men made me want to rip the one guy's mustache off and choke the other with it.
    Yep I saw it and know exactly what your saying. They dont understand the difference between a good swordsmens' bodymachanics and a sword being bludgened by another. I honestly cant watch that show anymore. The entire episode I was like "why dont they have the swordsmen they were just talking to do the expirament so they would have an accurate swing , instead they get the little asian guy to swing the sword like a baseball bat, very scientific "
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    Originally Posted by randomguy20 View Post
    they shoulda tested more powerful people. rampage n bas r good, but lol @ the small muy thai guy n chris byrd. samuel peter, klitshko, etc for boxing would test the most powerful, where as chris byrd is very low for punching power. for kicking id love to see Cro Cop shatter that dummy. massive lol @ Saku for wanting to take QJ's 1900 lb punch over Bas's 1300 lber. wat u wanna be like Ali?
    I wouldn't mind seeing Foreman or Tyson tested even today
    not to mention Houston Alexander
    or Chuck Liddell
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