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    Critique misses

    This ALWAYS happens whenever i try to clean 120, nationals is next weak, so i might as well give up that goal of 130 before then. It feels so much harder in real life, idk what the deal is. Can anyone see anything wrong with my form?

    Oh one more thing... how do I fix my second pull? I noticed that I'm not shrugging my shoulders at all even when I tell myself to do so before I clean it... I just don't have it in my muscle memory I guess.

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    Ooops, could someone critique this PR on clean and jerk too?

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    Looks like you're jumping back too far on the 120's, so the bar isn't well-balanced when you receive it. Try dropping straight down and whipping the elbows super-fast so you don't lose your rack like that. The pulls were fine - forget about the shrug! You're generating plenty of upward momentum on the bar and have great speed under it. Concentrating on shrugging (a) won't give you any extra pop at the top, and (b) will likely slow you down getting under the bar. The shrug is largely an illusion created by the speed under the bar and simultaneous elbow whip that makes it look like lifters are shrugging. Once you've finished standing up hard, you're done Actively shrugging isn't necessary to lift gigantic weights.
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    Umm, just looks like the bar is too heavy for you to stand up with. IDK, it seems you rack it a little slow, but you do rack it, its balanced and then when you start to come up you drop the elbows, pitch forward and lose the bar.

    How much do you front squat?

    If i just had to guess by those videos, id say your legs are weaker than your back causing you to pitch forward like that on the rise since you try to do a front-squat GM type of thing.
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    Thanks a bunch for the critique madaozeki.

    Originally Posted by Babak View Post
    Umm, just looks like the bar is too heavy for you to stand up with. IDK, it seems you rack it a little slow, but you do rack it, its balanced and then when you start to come up you drop the elbows, pitch forward and lose the bar.

    How much do you front squat?

    If i just had to guess by those videos, id say your legs are weaker than your back causing you to pitch forward like that on the rise since you try to do a front-squat GM type of thing.
    2bh I really have no idea how much I front squat anymore. Whenever I get done with snatch and clean and jerk I usually try to get a couple of sets of front squat in, but those lifts take so much out of me and I can barely even support squatting it, let alone actually going down and back up with it. I guess I should stop neglecting that.

    My coaches think the reason my back is arching and my elbows are dropping because maybe I have weak shoulders? it generally happens whenever I squat. I really don't wanna resort to using a belt at competition, but if your deduction is right then the only solution on that would be to squat?
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    Originally Posted by CHS55 View Post
    Thanks a bunch for the critique madaozeki.



    2bh I really have no idea how much I front squat anymore. Whenever I get done with snatch and clean and jerk I usually try to get a couple of sets of front squat in, but those lifts take so much out of me and I can barely even support squatting it, let alone actually going down and back up with it. I guess I should stop neglecting that.

    My coaches think the reason my back is arching and my elbows are dropping because maybe I have weak shoulders? it generally happens whenever I squat. I really don't wanna resort to using a belt at competition, but if your deduction is right then the only solution on that would be to squat?
    I have a similar problem on heavy front squats and back squat, my upper back rounds and it tends to happen on cleans sometime, something I'm gonna try and do is strengthen my upper back more and increase my stability, may work for you.
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    Originally Posted by GoJu View Post
    I have a similar problem on heavy front squats and back squat, my upper back rounds and it tends to happen on cleans sometime, something I'm gonna try and do is strengthen my upper back more and increase my stability, may work for you.
    How do you plan to do that? I don't know specific exercises for that.
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    Originally Posted by CHS55 View Post
    How do you plan to do that? I don't know specific exercises for that.
    pullups/chinups/hammer chins and rows mostly, might even throw in some shrugs but not sure.
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    Originally Posted by GoJu View Post
    pullups/chinups/hammer chins and rows mostly, might even throw in some shrugs but not sure.
    That definitely makes sense, I can barely do 2 pullups, I'll have to work on those. Thanks, I'll get back to you and see how it goes.
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    Originally Posted by GoJu View Post
    pullups/chinups/hammer chins and rows mostly, might even throw in some shrugs but not sure.
    face pulls will help alot as well!!
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    I vote for Larry Special's (lift my coach gave me), they are awesome for developing strength in, and in between, positions:

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    Originally Posted by J.L.C. View Post
    I vote for Larry Special's (lift my coach gave me), they are awesome for developing strength in, and in between, positions
    That does look special. And when I say special, I mean brutal
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    Originally Posted by r_graz View Post
    That does look special. And when I say special, I mean brutal
    The slower you can go, the better!

    They are absolutely horrible, but seriously work wonders and will add kilos to your lifts in no time
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