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    Question "Safely" going to failure w/o spotter on leg press

    Let's leave the "you don't need to train to failure" argument aside.

    Does anyone have any tips on doing this?

    The suicide stopper is about 6 inches too low at the highest setting. the swing arm catches might work but it would take some quick hands and coordination to do. Is that the only way? Or has anyone tried stacking something on top of the stopper?
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    Originally Posted by rhizome View Post
    The suicide stopper is about 6 inches too low at the highest setting.
    what kind of leg press are you using
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    Originally Posted by rhizome View Post

    The suicide stopper is about 6 inches too low at the highest setting.
    Must be nice.

    Us Manlets have to remove the suicide stopper to even approach a half ROM on the leg press. And unless you're at least like 6'9" I really dont imagine that this should be much of a problem. Just make sure you dont knee yourself in the face on the way back.
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    Originally Posted by Squizzzer View Post
    what kind of leg press are you using
    Hammer Strength. It's a high-end model. 4 long weight pegs and smooth as silk.

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    Must be nice.

    Us Manlets have to remove the suicide stopper to even approach a half ROM on the leg press. And unless you're at least like 6'9" I really dont imagine that this should be much of a problem. Just make sure you dont knee yourself in the face on the way back.
    Literally bent in half, legs against stomach and chest and still have a few inches to go. Maybe if I took a sumo position but that would probably rip my femur right out of my pelvis.
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    Usually, you shouldn't need a spotter on the leg press. Don't try experimenting with your own engineering techniques (i.e adding something on top of the spotter), it'll only increase the chance of injury.
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    Forget the leg press, and do squats in a squat or power rack?
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    Originally Posted by rhizome View Post
    Let's leave the "you don't need to train to failure" argument aside.

    Does anyone have any tips on doing this?

    The suicide stopper is about 6 inches too low at the highest setting. the swing arm catches might work but it would take some quick hands and coordination to do. Is that the only way? Or has anyone tried stacking something on top of the stopper?
    Don't go to failure or you will be stuck.....impossible for someone to spot a heavy leg press without just stripping weights off. Try pushiing your palms to the top of your knees to stabilize them and provide a little xtra push.
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    you don't need to train to failure
    I don't know either lol
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    Originally Posted by chazzy1864 View Post
    Forget the leg press, and do squats in a squat or power rack?
    I have very long legs - especially my femur - in relation to my very short torso so squats really aren't a productive exercise for me.

    Originally Posted by MASSter View Post
    Don't go to failure or you will be stuck.....impossible for someone to spot a heavy leg press without just stripping weights off. Try pushiing your palms to the top of your knees to stabilize them and provide a little xtra push.
    That's about the only escape I've got it looks like
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    Originally Posted by MASSter View Post
    Don't go to failure
    Originally Posted by W8isGR8 View Post
    you don't need to train to failure
    ... the end.


    Originally Posted by rhizome View Post
    I have very long legs - especially my femur - in relation to my very short torso so squats really aren't a productive exercise for me.
    being tall or having long legs does not make squatting ineffective. you may have longer distance to travel, so that may make it more difficult. but if its not effective then you are probably performing the movement incorrectly.

    btw, in a leg press, you still have the same femur, so why would it be any better than squats?
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    Originally Posted by unity View Post
    ... the end.




    being tall or having long legs does not make squatting ineffective. you may have longer distance to travel, so that may make it more difficult. but if its not effective then you are probably performing the movement incorrectly.

    btw, in a leg press, you still have the same femur, so why would it be any better than squats?
    When you have long legs in relation to a short torso it does unless you take a really wide stance or lean forward excessively. This is all tangential anyway.
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    I am kinda tall and rangey too... leg press is just more comfortable than squats and I also feel LP better in the quads. I always do squats... I guess my mechanics just make me a little weaker than I should be at my size.

    I was also going to suggest pushing on your knees if you get stuck.
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    Originally Posted by rhizome View Post
    Let's leave the "you don't need to train to failure" argument aside.

    Does anyone have any tips on doing this?

    The suicide stopper is about 6 inches too low at the highest setting. the swing arm catches might work but it would take some quick hands and coordination to do. Is that the only way? Or has anyone tried stacking something on top of the stopper?

    I would say that first you must be 110% "in tune" with your body before attempting reps to concentric muscular failure without a spotter. And not to mention the mind/muscle connection. This is hard to explain through writing, but through experience you will be able to gauge your next rep based on the previous. In other words, if it takes several seconds to slowly struggle a weight up, then that's failure and there is no need to continue with a next rep.
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    Originally Posted by tmac4919 View Post
    I would say that first you must be 110% "in tune" with your body before attempting reps to concentric muscular failure without a spotter. And not to mention the mind/muscle connection. This is hard to explain through writing, but through experience you will be able to gauge your next rep based on the previous. In other words, if it takes several seconds to slowly struggle a weight up, then that's failure and there is no need to continue with a next rep.
    I will say, working out alone (after using partners for awhile) kind of made me learn my body quickly. Since i always trained to failure with them, then they bailed on me, I still wanted to go to failure. It is easy for me to tell if I'll be able to get another rep up or not.
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    Originally Posted by chazzy1864 View Post
    I will say, working out alone (after using partners for awhile) kind of made me learn my body quickly. Since i always trained to failure with them, then they bailed on me, I still wanted to go to failure. It is easy for me to tell if I'll be able to get another rep up or not.
    I hear ya'. I'm well aware of my body too. But I often have that second-guessing feeling where my mind is saying "no" but my body says "maybe". I would just put me at ease if I had that safety net if I give the finger to my mind and my body throws it right back.
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    Originally Posted by rhizome View Post
    I hear ya'. I'm well aware of my body too. But I often have that second-guessing feeling where my mind is saying "no" but my body says "maybe". I would just put me at ease if I had that safety net if I give the finger to my mind and my body throws it right back.
    I can't blame you, there is the occassion where I'm feeling pretty good, kind of struggled with the last rep but I'm like "Oh I can get one more" and I hit my sticking point and am like "Oh crap.....not what I had planned" then I have to try to muscle the weight up to the lowest hook on the bench and slide out from under the bar.
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