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Old 06-11-2008, 11:06 AM   #1
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Jay disses Wolf! It's on, baby!

In the new issue of Flex, they show pics of Jay and Wolf both guest posing in different locations on April 19, 2008. They show a pic of each hitting the same pose: a rear lat spread, rear dub bicep, side chest, and don't know the name of the other pose, but it's the one where you are bent to the side flexing one bicep. They showed Jay the pics of Wolf . Here's Jay's comments:

" He looks the same as he always does. Maybe he's going to try to grow into the competiton, but I don't see anything different than what I saw at the Olympia or in the earlier shows in 2007, to be honest. To me, He looks the same as he did at the Olympia with little less conditioning. He's not any bigger. The areas where people talked about where he needed improvement, I don't see any improvement."

He then says, " He's like me; I think he's in great posing shape for the offseason, but here we go again for 2008. Who's my competition? I don't know. I mean, if I come in condition, It's my show all the way. I'm still grabbing the title."

Sorry, but don't know how to post the pics, But I know someone out there has this issue and can, so help out fellas. Are these the words of a confident champion? Or are they the words of a scared man throwing salt on one of his biggest threats to the crown.
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Old 06-11-2008, 11:08 AM   #2
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its called side chest
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In the new issue of Flex, they show pics of Jay and Wolf both guest posing in different locations on April 19, 2008. They show a pic of each hitting the same pose: a rear lat spread, rear dub bicep, side chest, and don't know the name of the other pose, but it's the one where you are bent to the side flexing one bicep. They showed Jay the pics of Wolf . Here's Jay's comments:

" He looks the same as he always does. Maybe he's going to try to grow into the competiton, but I don't see anything different than what I saw at the Olympia or in the earlier shows in 2007, to be honest. To me, He looks the same as he did at the Olympia with little less conditioning. He's not any bigger. The areas where people talked about where he needed improvement, I don't see any improvement."

He then says, " He's like me; I think he's in great posing shape for the offseason, but here we go again for 2008. Who's my competition? I don't know. I mean, if I come in condition, It's my show all the way. I'm still grabbing the title."

Sorry, but don't know how to post the pics, But I know someone out there has this issue and can, so help out fellas. Are these the words of a confident champion? Or are they the words of a scared man throwing salt on one of his biggest threats to the crown.
Jay knows hes gonna take the crown this year. Its a given wolf is not complete but im sure jay has heard a bunch of junk for that nasty conditioning he brought in 07.
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Old 06-11-2008, 11:15 AM   #4
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Eh. Jay's wrong. He looks more impressive than he did guest posing last year. Thicker with fast improving arms and a better back. Maybe Jay's scared cause he paused at 2:06 too.

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Eh. Jay's wrong. He looks more impressive than he did guest posing last year. Thicker with fast improving arms and a better back. Maybe Jay's scared cause he paused at 2:06 too.

His rear lat spread presents a very wide back indeed, but unfortunately a flat and undetailed one..
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His rear lat spread presents a very wide back indeed, but unfortunately a flat and undetailed one..
At least he has lines and flow in his back once he hits that rear double bi.
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And for him to be in the offseason, it looks pretty impressive to me.
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His rear lat spread presents a very wide back indeed, but unfortunately a flat and undetailed one..
Gotta remember that he is in offseason there..so 100% detail is not there...like it will be at the O.
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Almost sounds cocky but Jay knows he has the edge and only needs to show with average conditioning to win...
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Eh. Jay's wrong. He looks more impressive than he did guest posing last year. Thicker with fast improving arms and a better back. Maybe Jay's scared cause he paused at 2:06 too.

thats an awesome show for a guest pose,

no idea what its called but its the same one as the arnold classic statue, he owns that pose like one else currently out there
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We all know that if Jay comes in good shape , He will take it. Much like past Sandow winners, Coleman, Yates, Haney etc. Its the IFBB for god's sake.


Truth be told Wolf needs to add thickness to dethrone Cutler. (and this coming from a bid Wolf supporter!!!! He will get his day. Long live the Wolf)
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We all know that if Jay comes in good shape , He will take it. Much like past Sandow winners, Coleman, Yates, Haney etc. Its the IFBB for god's sake.


Truth be told Wolf needs to add thickness to dethrone Cutler. (and this coming from a big Wolf supporter!!!! He will get his day. Long live the Wolf)
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Not the exact pics in the mag, but very similar.


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its called side chest
The second pic was the one I was refering to. Don't think that's a side chest, lol.
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That second picture is a pose i don't think Wolf should be doing. Wolf is my favorite bodybuilder but everyone knows that that picture requires massive calves and huge biceps to look good, the calves is where Wolf is lacking.
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That second picture is a pose i don't think Wolf should be doing. Wolf is my favorite bodybuilder but everyone knows that that picture requires massive calves and huge biceps to look good, the calves is where Wolf is lacking.
Much like how Cutler lacks symmetry to pull off a good looking ab/thigh pose?

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In the new issue of Flex, they show pics of Jay and Wolf both guest posing in different locations on April 19, 2008. They show a pic of each hitting the same pose: a rear lat spread, rear dub bicep, side chest, and don't know the name of the other pose, but it's the one where you are bent to the side flexing one bicep. They showed Jay the pics of Wolf . Here's Jay's comments:

" He looks the same as he always does. Maybe he's going to try to grow into the competiton, but I don't see anything different than what I saw at the Olympia or in the earlier shows in 2007, to be honest. To me, He looks the same as he did at the Olympia with little less conditioning. He's not any bigger. The areas where people talked about where he needed improvement, I don't see any improvement."

He then says, " He's like me; I think he's in great posing shape for the offseason, but here we go again for 2008. Who's my competition? I don't know. I mean, if I come in condition, It's my show all the way. I'm still grabbing the title."

Sorry, but don't know how to post the pics, But I know someone out there has this issue and can, so help out fellas. Are these the words of a confident champion? Or are they the words of a scared man throwing salt on one of his biggest threats to the crown.
I don't know if it means he is scared or that he is confident, but I'm pretty sure that either way the comments are irrelevant.

So he thinks he is going to win? So what? I'd hate for him to spend all year preparing for a show he expects to lose.

They'll have the competition, Wolf and Cutler will both be there, and then they'll settle it. Anything outside that is pretty irrelevant.
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Truth be told Wolf needs to add thickness to dethrone Cutler. (and this coming from a big Wolf supporter!!!! He will get his day. Long live the Wolf)
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Old 06-11-2008, 05:13 PM   #20
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As much as I not really a fan of Jay's, I must admit that Wolf looks the same damn way as he did last year.
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Maybe this time jay won't run a 4.4 in the 40 across the stage trying to escape from the big bad wolf like he did last year.
No, this year Jay has upped his cardio...should be a 4.2 40 or so when he starts running.

Wonder how fast he would run if Ronnie pulled an Arnold and showed up? The recent pics, that lat is 90% atleast...and That would beat Jay any day.


Jay needs to stop that pose...he looks like a tree...no taper AT ALL
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" He looks the same as he always does. Maybe he's going to try to grow into the competiton, but I don't see anything different than what I saw at the Olympia or in the earlier shows in 2007, to be honest. To me, He looks the same as he did at the Olympia with little less conditioning. He's not any bigger. The areas where people talked about where he needed improvement, I don't see any improvement."

He then says, " He's like me; I think he's in great posing shape for the offseason, but here we go again for 2008. Who's my competition? I don't know. I mean, if I come in condition, It's my show all the way. I'm still grabbing the title."
"He looks the same as he always does."

WRONG!


"Maybe he's going to try to grow into the competition"

Translation - "maybe he'll try to get signed with muscle tech so he too can win the O no matter what his physique looks like on stage.


"He's not any bigger."

Translation - "His gut is not any bigger than mine! 54 inch waist baby! IN YO FACE!"


The areas where people talked about where he needed improvement, I don't see any improvement.

Because all that color bronzer has f*cked up your vision!


Who's my competition? I don't know. I mean, if I come in condition, It's my show all the way. I'm still grabbing the title.

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No, this year Jay has upped his cardio...should be a 4.2 40 or so when he starts running.

Wonder how fast he would run if Ronnie pulled an Arnold and showed up? The recent pics, that lat is 90% atleast...and That would beat Jay any day.


Jay needs to stop that pose...he looks like a tree...no taper AT ALL
do you have any recent back pics of ron?
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"He looks the same as he always does."

WRONG!
Proof?

Just because you see something a certain way, doesn't mean everyone else can see it as well
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Proof?

Just because you see something a certain way, doesn't mean everyone else can see it as well
I'm going the quote something you said to me in another thread.

"No worries darling, I'll let the pictures speak for themselves"

Of course Jay can't see any improvement. It's called denial.
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I'm going the quote something you said to me in another thread.

"No worries darling, I'll let the pictures speak for themselves"

Of course Jay can't see any improvement. It's called denial.
Yeah but I don't see any improvements either

All I can see is him being bigger than from the Olympia due to higher bodyfat and water under skin.

Where are the hamstrings and calves?
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its called side chest
he already mentioned side chest...he is talking about another pose...maybe the one Dorian always did
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do you have any recent back pics of ron?
No, but have seen them floating around. His lat is I'd say 85-90% back. And now the pics pop up of him looking like he is back to training hard. I'd be shocked if Ronnie showed up. But, I wouldn't be if he did say a show this fall and looks good. I know he wants #9...and I know Ronnie at 95% or better would destroy Jay...it did forever, and Jay has looked like crap since he beat Ronnie. Last year that was a gift, had Vic been Weider and Muscletech...he would of won.
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Yeah but I don't see any improvements either

All I can see is him being bigger than from the Olympia due to higher bodyfat and water under skin.

Where are the hamstrings and calves?
Ummm? Isn't bigger an improvement?

You don't like Wolf and I understand that so your opinion is a bit bias.

You're my buddy and all but you are a bonafide WOLF hater.

Oh and yes Jay has better calves.
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Yeah but I don't see any improvements either

All I can see is him being bigger than from the Olympia due to higher bodyfat and water under skin.

Where are the hamstrings and calves?
His arms and back are better than they were in the offseason last year.

Where are his hamstrings and calves? They're lagging - though his hams look a bit bigger to me. Such weakness tend not to be fixed completely over the course of a single year you know...

Did you expect Wolf to come in with Melvin Anthony esque hams and Dorian esque calves after the weaknesses he showed in those areas at the Olympia?
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