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    Just got my NSCA study material....

    and WOW this is ridiculous

    on top of a 700 page text book, i have 15+ hours of multimedia lectures... and i can't help but wonder how knowing the sub atomic structure of my muscle cells will help me in the field...

    which also makes me realize that for the amount of work im going to put into this, compared to other jobs of equal pay.... the ROI isnt too extravagant.
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    Is that for CPT or CSCS?
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    sounds like u got your work cut out for ya
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    Originally Posted by wint View Post
    Is that for CPT or CSCS?
    the cpt... why?
    lol would the cscs make this look like nothing?
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    If you want the best you have to work the hardest. Honestly any muscle fiber structure is not in the cpt exam, but why limit yourself to what you need to know?
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    Originally Posted by antman8969 View Post
    the cpt... why?
    lol would the cscs make this look like nothing?

    I have no idea. I was also thinking aboutNSCA and have no idea what to expect.

    Could I ask why you chose NSCA over others?

    Also why did you choose self-study over going to school or taking a course online?


    That's where I'm stuck . . . should I self-study, go to school or take it online. The only online course I have found to prep for NSCA-CPT is Pinnacle Career Institute, Kansas City . . . $15,000.

    I asked earlier if anyone had ever heard of it and no one has even responded. Guess that answers my question!

    Did you look at PCI?

    Here's the link http://www.pcitraining.edu/02-personal-training.asp

    I'd like to get as prepared as possible . . . especially in anatomy and physiology . . . but nothing says that PCI is the answer. They just look good.
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    Originally Posted by antman8969 View Post
    the cpt... why?
    lol would the cscs make this look like nothing?
    lol

    i didnt think the cscs was all that hard anyway (exercise phys grad student, tho) but most say cscs is the hardest.
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    Originally Posted by wint View Post
    I have no idea. I was also thinking about NASC and have no idea what to expect.

    Could I ask why you chose NASC over others?

    Also why did you choose self-study over going to school or taking a course online?


    That's where I'm stuck . . . should I self-study, go to school or take it online. The only online course I have found to prep for NASC-CPT is Pinnacle Career Institute, Kansas City . . . $15,000.

    I asked earlier if anyone had ever heard of it and no one has even responded. Guess that answers my question!

    Did you look at PCI?

    Here's the link http://www.pcitraining.edu/02-personal-training.asp

    I'd like to get as prepared as possible . . . especially in anatomy and physiology . . . but nothing says that PCI is the answer. They just look good.
    NO dont bother, HUGE waste of money
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    Originally Posted by HitItHard View Post
    NO dont bother, HUGE waste of money


    Thanks for the input . . . now

    1) Can you explain why?

    2) What qualifies you to have an opinion?


    I don't mean to sound snotty with the last one, just trying to understand on what you base your opinion. I appreciate your response, believe me.
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    Originally Posted by antman8969 View Post
    and WOW this is ridiculous

    on top of a 700 page text book, i have 15+ hours of multimedia lectures... and i can't help but wonder how knowing the sub atomic structure of my muscle cells will help me in the field...

    which also makes me realize that for the amount of work im going to put into this, compared to other jobs of equal pay.... the ROI isnt too extravagant.
    How much did you pay for the study material/exam from the site? I'm not sure which fees to aggregate to come up with the final cost.
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    Originally Posted by wint View Post
    I have no idea. I was also thinking about NASC and have no idea what to expect.

    Could I ask why you chose NASC over others?

    Also why did you choose self-study over going to school or taking a course online?


    That's where I'm stuck . . . should I self-study, go to school or take it online. The only online course I have found to prep for NASC-CPT is Pinnacle Career Institute, Kansas City . . . $15,000.

    I asked earlier if anyone had ever heard of it and no one has even responded. Guess that answers my question!

    Did you look at PCI?

    Here's the link http://www.pcitraining.edu/02-personal-training.asp

    I'd like to get as prepared as possible . . . especially in anatomy and physiology . . . but nothing says that PCI is the answer. They just look good.
    No class on anything is worth 15,000. Period. Are you trying to type NSCA? Becuase if you are then studying on your own for maybe 6 months and then taking the test is the way to go. The link you provided was to NSCA so I assume you are just typing wrong no big deal. Just order the books from nsca-lift.org and when you feel comfortable follow the instructions and take the test. Don't waste the cost of an entry level car on a cert that could cost as little as like 300$.
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    Originally Posted by wint View Post
    Thanks for the input . . . now

    1) Can you explain why?

    2) What qualifies you to have an opinion?


    I don't mean to sound snotty with the last one, just trying to understand on what you base your opinion. I appreciate your response, believe me.
    1) its $15,000 and ive never even heard of it
    2) cscs
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    Originally Posted by wint View Post
    I have no idea. I was also thinking about NASC and have no idea what to expect.

    Could I ask why you chose NASC over others?

    Also why did you choose self-study over going to school or taking a course online?


    That's where I'm stuck . . . should I self-study, go to school or take it online. The only online course I have found to prep for NASC-CPT is Pinnacle Career Institute, Kansas City . . . $15,000.

    I asked earlier if anyone had ever heard of it and no one has even responded. Guess that answers my question!

    Did you look at PCI?

    Here's the link http://www.pcitraining.edu/02-personal-training.asp

    I'd like to get as prepared as possible . . . especially in anatomy and physiology . . . but nothing says that PCI is the answer. They just look good.
    I decided to go with NSCA just because everyone views this as the top of the line cert. Honestly, aside from some weekend seminars, i was under the impression that self study was the ONLY way to go.

    As for price... around $400. I didnt think anything past the delux (second lowest price) was necessary. It came with the giant text book, the exercise technique book, 17 hours of video lecture and a practice exam... anything more expensive is designed to make them a little extra i guess, perfectly understandable tho
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    The $400 one is the price for member's right? So the total is more around $500?
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    Originally Posted by Torrtrefireto View Post
    No class on anything is worth 15,000. Period. Are you trying to type NSCA? Becuase if you are then studying on your own for maybe 6 months and then taking the test is the way to go. The link you provided was to NSCA so I assume you are just typing wrong no big deal. Just order the books from nsca-lift.org and when you feel comfortable follow the instructions and take the test. Don't waste the cost of an entry level car on a cert that could cost as little as like 300$.

    Yes, I was trying to type NSCA . . . that was a brain fart . . . thanks for pointing it out. I went back and corrected it so I didn't confuse anyone. There's enough alphabet soup.

    Here's what's bothering me.

    I was worried that I would be getting certified without enough background in science - biology, anatomy, kinesiology, physiology, etc. The PCI course is college credit and offers college classes in those areas.

    But from what I'm getting from folks here . . . it doesn't matter. The science you get in the basic study material is enough to start as a trainer.

    So . . . is THAT correct? You just don't need college-level anatomy/kinesiology and physiology to start as a CPT?
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    Originally Posted by HitItHard View Post
    1) its $15,000 and ive never even heard of it
    2) cscs


    From your experience . . . is it necessary for a certified trainer to have college-level credit in anatomy, physiology and kinesiology or can you do a credible job with what you learn from the study materials from NSCA?

    As I explained to another gentleman, I thought you needed a deep background in "science" but I'm getting the impression that nobody finds that very necessary, at least to start.

    (That's the only reason I considered PCI . . . they teach college level credits in the "science.")
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    Originally Posted by wint View Post
    Yes, I was trying to type NSCA . . . that was a brain fart . . . thanks for pointing it out. I went back and corrected it so I didn't confuse anyone. There's enough alphabet soup.

    Here's what's bothering me.

    I was worried that I would be getting certified without enough background in science - biology, anatomy, kinesiology, physiology, etc. The PCI course is college credit and offers college classes in those areas.

    But from what I'm getting from folks here . . . it doesn't matter. The science you get in the basic study material is enough to start as a trainer.

    So . . . is THAT correct? You just don't need college-level anatomy/kinesiology and physiology to start as a CPT?
    Honestly, you dont really need COLLEGE level pre req... High school will do (probably why they require a high school diploma). Admittedly, without that, i would have had no clue wtf they were talking about during the indepth (unnecessary) muscle cross section

    Honestly, the more i study the more i regret spending 400 dollars on this. So far, the only thing i can see that makes this a "top of the line" cert is the surplus of useless information... which is the only HARD part. And the material that actually deals with personal training is common sense, like communicating with ur client.... which ive been doing fine without a cert....

    Ill post more as i study more on this thread... but so far im VERY disappointed
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    Originally Posted by antman8969 View Post
    Honestly, you dont really need COLLEGE level pre req... High school will do (probably why they require a high school diploma). Admittedly, without that, i would have had no clue wtf they were talking about during the indepth (unnecessary) muscle cross section

    Honestly, the more i study the more i regret spending 400 dollars on this. So far, the only thing i can see that makes this a "top of the line" cert is the surplus of useless information... which is the only HARD part. And the material that actually deals with personal training is common sense, like communicating with ur client.... which ive been doing fine without a cert....

    Ill post more as i study more on this thread... but so far im VERY disappointed

    Well . . . I don't know if this will help but there's a theory about learning called The Base and Peak.

    How high you take your skills and abilities (Peak) depends on your overall knowledge (Base). It's why we make kids take liberal arts electives even though they're going to be doctors or engineers.

    Knowing some Shakespeare will actually make you a better medical doctor . . . and a good background in the sciences should make you a better trainer.
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