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    Originally Posted by naturalguy View Post
    Digestive complex in Animal Pak:

    Betaine HCL
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    Papain
    Pancreatin
    Mycozyme
    Lipase


    Maybe you missed that when you were looking at the ingredients. Whats the digestive complex in the product that your comparing?

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    Originally Posted by RippedFibers View Post
    In Orange Triad-

    Digestion And Immune Complex? 1275mg **
    Echinacea (As Root), Ginger Extract, Quercetin (96%), R-Alpha Lipoic Acid (100 Mg), Giant Knotweed (Root Extract), Bilberry (As Fruit), Blueberry Extract (As Fruit), Pomegranate (80% Extract), Grape Seed Extract, Raspberry Seed (As Fruit), Lycopene, Lutein
    whats the digestive part? Ginger?
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    Originally Posted by Universal Rep View Post
    Truth is, Pak and Flex ain't for everyone. Truth is, it ain't the cheapest.

    If price is important to you consider:

    SportPharma Multi-V is $8.99: http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/sport/multiv.html

    Universal Jointment Sport is $9.59: http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/univ/joint.html

    Together, that's what, $18.58?

    In the end though, many people don't buy on price. There are many reasons that motivate people to buy what they buy. What I love is there are as many choices as there are preferences. If you like what you have, by all means, continue...
    that is not a fair comparison. that joint product is 20 servings, orange triad has 45 servings, so you should add 125% to the price of the joint part. also, orange triad's joint component has 30% more actives by weight.
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    Originally Posted by CONTROLLED LABS View Post
    that is not a fair comparison. that joint product is 20 servings, orange triad has 45 servings, so you should add 125% to the price of the joint part. also, orange triad's joint component has 30% more actives by weight.
    Even if you buy enough Jointment Sport to last 45 days, the pricing is similar enough (29.79 vs. 30.56).

    That was beside the point anyway. The point I was making is that often consumers don't shop on price. Of course, there are those who do. But it's more complex than that. There are many reasons for people choosing what they do. If "value" or price is the most important factor, then there will always be someone who comes in with more value...
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    Originally Posted by Universal Rep View Post
    Even if you buy enough Jointment Sport to last 45 days, the pricing is similar enough (29.79 vs. 30.56).

    That was beside the point anyway. The point I was making is that often consumers don't shop on price. Of course, there are those who do. But it's more complex than that. There are many reasons for people choosing what they do. If "value" or price is the most important factor, then there will always be someone who comes in with more value...
    I was just correcting your false comparison. orange triad is not bought solely on price. its bought on value, which is a combo of price, quality and effectiveness. there are so many benefits to orange triad and the customer can see that. its not as simple as taking a regular multi and joint supplement and putting them together. there is convenience of a single bottle, the other complex, the ability to mimic food intake for maximum absorption (with the ingredients evenly distributed throughout the tablets) and so much more. some may wish to pay more for two separate products and that is fine if they want, just trying to correct a false comparison that you posted up above.

    I am not going to debate you or your reps further on the issue, so my piece is said and done. we do not like to get into debates with other companies as its not professional and borders on violating board policy.
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    Truth is, Pak and Flex ain't for everyone. Truth is, it ain't the cheapest.

    If price is important to you consider:

    SportPharma Multi-V is $8.99: http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/sport/multiv.html

    Universal Jointment Sport is $9.59: http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/univ/joint.html

    Together, that's what, $18.58?

    In the end though, many people don't buy on price. There are many reasons that motivate people to buy what they buy. What I love is there are as many choices as there are preferences. If you like what you have, by all means, continue...
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    Taken both, i went with flex it gave me better results
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    ive tried a bunch if animal products and have nothing but great results so im sure its a good pruduct just listen to what everyone says aboiut the two products and make your choice but im partial to animal products myself
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    Check out a comparison of users' ratings:

    Best Joint/bone Support Supplements

    Animal Flex scores marginally higher, but the difference is probably not statistically significant. Also, as CONTROLLED LABS pointed out, there are many things to consider. Animal Flex can be had for $.45 c per serving and has 5,000 mg of joint support ingredients. Orange Triad can be obtained for $.55 c per serving and has 3,450 mg of specific joint support ingredients.

    Something to note is that users may subconsciously rate Animal Flex higher than Orange Triad on average, due to marketing.

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    Ive been using Animal Flex for the past 2 years after a friend told me to try it and have loved it ever since. I have praised this and recommended it to many people saying that this is the one "miracle" supplement that exists. Having a shoulder injury really hampered my performance in the gym but Flex has helped me get back to where I was and become even stronger. Although it hasn't healed my shoulder 100% there is no way I would be putting up the weight I do now without the help of flex. I am a huge supporter of both Universal (animal) and Controlled Labs and feel they both make solid products.

    I just recently picked up Orange Triad (nice sale on another planet)and will be giving it a go in a few months when my Flex runs out. I am really curious to see if it keeps my shoulder pain to a minimum or will the pain come back causing me to drop the OT and run back to Flex (or maybe stack them both).

    But until then, I am a proud supporter of Animal Flex
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    Originally Posted by Bobaroo View Post
    Ive been using Animal Flex for the past 2 years after a friend told me to try it and have loved it ever since. I have praised this and recommended it to many people saying that this is the one "miracle" supplement that exists. Having a shoulder injury really hampered my performance in the gym but Flex has helped me get back to where I was and become even stronger. Although it hasn't healed my shoulder 100% there is no way I would be putting up the weight I do now without the help of flex. I am a huge supporter of both Universal (animal) and Controlled Labs and feel they both make solid products.

    I just recently picked up Orange Triad (nice sale on another planet)and will be giving it a go in a few months when my Flex runs out. I am really curious to see if it keeps my shoulder pain to a minimum or will the pain come back causing me to drop the OT and run back to Flex (or maybe stack them both).

    But until then, I am a proud supporter or Animal Flex
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    Why must CL reps be so in your face? Yeah you guys have decent products, but you could all relax just a tiny bit. We get that you think it's a great value. We get that it's 3 in 1. We get that we can get gear if we save labels. We get that you're a rep. It's really kind of a turn off when every post is a 100% shilling.
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    I used Animal Flex and Animal Nitro. In 3 weeks, my elbows that have been in pain since December, feel no more pain and I have regained full range of motion with full strength.

    I felt the improvement starting the next day. Three weeks later, complete healing. Your situation will most likely be different. But I would definitely recommend the Flex & Nitro combo.
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    Flex is the one miracle supplement on this board that has actually lived up to the hype. Myself, My brother, my 2 brother in laws, and every elite powerlifter at my barbell club who's elbows were at one point almost non existent use it and swear by it. I used orange triad when it had just come out and to me it was decent in all areas but excelled in none. While this is good for those on a budget, depending on your level of pain you might want to spring for the best. Flex is the best joint support I have personally used. This is first hand experience and I have no brand bias I simply use what works. Flex works. Period.
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    Check out a comparison of users' ratings:

    Best Joint/bone Support Supplements

    Animal Flex scores marginally higher, but the difference is probably not statistically significant. Also, as CONTROLLED LABS pointed out, there are many things to consider. Animal Flex can be had for $.45 c per serving and has 5,000 mg of joint support ingredients. Orange Triad can be obtained for $.55 c per serving and has 3,450 mg of specific joint support ingredients.

    Something to note is that users may subconsciously rate Animal Flex higher than Orange Triad on average, due to marketing.

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    What are those ratings based on, D?
    They are subjective ratings, based on the users' (i.e., site contributors') experiences.
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    Originally Posted by dansari View Post
    They are subjective ratings, based on the users' (i.e., site contributors') experiences.
    Not too many contributed to that... It could be more useful with a lot more feedback...


    Anyway, some feedback/reviews on Flex:

    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...ht=animal+flex
    http://forum.animalpak.com/showthread.php?t=8557
    http://forum.animalpak.com/showthread.php?t=3029
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    Originally Posted by Universal Rep View Post
    Not too many contributed to that... It could be more useful with a lot more feedback...


    Anyway, some feedback/reviews on Flex:

    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...ht=animal+flex
    http://forum.animalpak.com/showthread.php?t=8557
    http://forum.animalpak.com/showthread.php?t=3029
    Yeah, you're right - I'm trying to get a lot more reviews with the monthly contests. It takes time - the site is up to close to 600 reviews overall, after 6 months. A little slower than I had hoped.
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    Yeah, you're right - I'm trying to get a lot more reviews with the monthly contests. It takes time - the site is up to close to 600 reviews overall, after 6 months. A little slower than I had hoped.
    Solid work though brother... Keep at it. When the FORVM was launched over a year ago, we had a few hundred members. Now we're at 15,000+. It takes time. Good luck.
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    I'm on day 5 right now of Animal FLEX. i'm recovering from knee surgery. I still have discomfort in both knees, and the pop/crack a lot still. But i'm aware that it takes 2 weeks to really kick in. So i'm just playing the waiting game. I take it with dinner daily.
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    Originally Posted by j. ViLLA View Post
    I'm on day 5 right now of Animal FLEX. i'm recovering from knee surgery. I still have discomfort in both knees, and the pop/crack a lot still. But i'm aware that it takes 2 weeks to really kick in. So i'm just playing the waiting game. I take it with dinner daily.
    J, it can take 2 weeks to 30 days for it to fully kick in.
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    Originally Posted by fireman+scott View Post
    Taken both, i went with flex it gave me better results
    Originally Posted by chris1257 View Post
    ive tried a bunch if animal products and have nothing but great results so im sure its a good pruduct just listen to what everyone says aboiut the two products and make your choice but im partial to animal products myself
    Originally Posted by Bobaroo View Post
    Ive been using Animal Flex for the past 2 years after a friend told me to try it and have loved it ever since. I have praised this and recommended it to many people saying that this is the one "miracle" supplement that exists. Having a shoulder injury really hampered my performance in the gym but Flex has helped me get back to where I was and become even stronger. Although it hasn't healed my shoulder 100% there is no way I would be putting up the weight I do now without the help of flex.
    Originally Posted by DCarruso View Post
    I used Animal Flex and Animal Nitro. In 3 weeks, my elbows that have been in pain since December, feel no more pain and I have regained full range of motion with full strength.

    I felt the improvement starting the next day. Three weeks later, complete healing. Your situation will most likely be different. But I would definitely recommend the Flex & Nitro combo.
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    Flex is the one miracle supplement on this board that has actually lived up to the hype. Myself, My brother, my 2 brother in laws, and every elite powerlifter at my barbell club who's elbows were at one point almost non existent use it and swear by it. I used orange triad when it had just come out and to me it was decent in all areas but excelled in none. While this is good for those on a budget, depending on your level of pain you might want to spring for the best. Flex is the best joint support I have personally used. This is first hand experience and I have no brand bias I simply use what works. Flex works. Period.
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    Originally Posted by naturalguy View Post
    J, it can take 2 weeks to 30 days for it to fully kick in.
    Not a problem. I trust Universal and the ANIMAL line. Even my therapist said to not be surprised if it takes 4-6 weeks and to take it every day.
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    Originally Posted by j. ViLLA View Post
    Not a problem. I trust Universal and the ANIMAL line. Even my therapist said to not be surprised if it takes 4-6 weeks and to take it every day.
    Let us know how it grows, brother...
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