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    Bicep shape

    Can someone tell me what exercises make biceps 1.wider 2.longer 3.Higher. I ask this because in order to get my biceps looking the same i need to know which exercise does what to my bicep.
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    Genetics broa!

    With your massive muscles you should be competent enough to figure that out.
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    cheers for answer, that doesn't help at all
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    There are no exercises to do that. It is determined by your genes.
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    Just do a complete range of motion and make sure you work both sides equally. The shape is just a matter of your own genetics. Some people have 2 differently shaped biceps. Such is life.
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    Originally Posted by sweetchuck View Post
    cheers for answer, that doesn't help at all
    you can't change the shape or lengthen your bicep. it is genetic.
    you wanna know how i did it, this is how, i never saved anything for the swim back.
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    just make them large and nobody will care if they have a different shape.
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    Originally Posted by unity View Post
    just make them large and nobody will care if they have a different shape.
    x2

    Just focus on putting on mass
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    Originally Posted by unity View Post
    just make them large and nobody will care if they have a different shape.
    X4 LOL

    Thank your parents, it's 100% genetics ;p
    Check out some of the previous Mr. O's for examples. None of them have had the same shape of biceps.
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    Do you have scoliosis sweetchuck? (Not a bash at all, I'm just wondering).
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    genetics dont matter u get get big bi's without them.
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    Im still not buying it. If i were to do loads of concentration curls the bicep would have a higher peak, be more apple shaped, so surely other exercises would alter the shape in different ways
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    Originally Posted by sweetchuck View Post
    Im still not buying it. If i were to do loads of concentration curls the bicep would have a higher peak, be more apple shaped, so surely other exercises would alter the shape in different ways
    ok u do that

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    Originally Posted by unity View Post
    just make them large and nobody will care if they have a different shape.
    lol repped
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    Originally Posted by sweetchuck View Post
    Im still not buying it. If i were to do loads of concentration curls the bicep would have a higher peak, be more apple shaped, so surely other exercises would alter the shape in different ways
    so then you're saying you already know the answer to your question...so why the *F* are you asking it?!?!


    And no, movements will not change the shape...they will develop the muscles so that the perceived effect might be different shape.


    -hitting both heads equally will make the biceps look wider, but that just comes along with added size. No ONE exercise will do this, it's a matter of developing both heads equally

    -emphasizing the brachialis, which inserts lower on the elbow than the biceps, will increase the look of "fullness" and added length because it will push up the lower area of the biceps. Exercises that do this are hammer curls(whether straight up and down or done cross-body style), preacher curls(so long as you do the bottom portion of the movement, don't totally straighten the arms though), and bottom-range partials which work best with BB curls.

    -concentration curls, when done properly emphasize the biceps, while de-emphasizing the brachialis...so the result is increase biceps size but more increased in proportion to the brachialis so that the net effect will be a "taller/ROUNDER" more peaked look to the biceps. Exercises that do this are concentration curls, top-range partials on preacher curls and/or on BB curls, and seated BB curls.
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    "And no, movements will not change the shape...they will develop the muscles so that the perceived effect might be different shape"

    That my friend is contradiction itself, its like saying they don't change the shape but they make the shape look different. If a shape looks different, it's been changed has it not.

    This is "the f'#k" what i was asking for

    hitting both heads equally will make the biceps look wider, but that just comes along with added size. No ONE exercise will do this, it's a matter of developing both heads equally

    -emphasizing the brachialis, which inserts lower on the elbow than the biceps, will increase the look of "fullness" and added length because it will push up the lower area of the biceps. Exercises that do this are hammer curls(whether straight up and down or done cross-body style), preacher curls(so long as you do the bottom portion of the movement, don't totally straighten the arms though), and bottom-range partials which work best with BB curls.

    -concentration curls, when done properly emphasize the biceps, while de-emphasizing the brachialis...so the result is increase biceps size but more increased in proportion to the brachialis so that the net effect will be a "taller/ROUNDER" more peaked look to the biceps. Exercises that do this are concentration curls, top-range partials on preacher curls and/or on BB curls, and seated BB curls.
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    Originally Posted by sweetchuck View Post
    "And no, movements will not change the shape...they will develop the muscles so that the perceived effect might be different shape"

    That my friend is contradiction itself, its like saying they don't change the shape but they make the shape look different. If a shape looks different, it's been changed has it not.

    This is "the f'#k" what i was asking for

    hitting both heads equally will make the biceps look wider, but that just comes along with added size. No ONE exercise will do this, it's a matter of developing both heads equally

    -emphasizing the brachialis, which inserts lower on the elbow than the biceps, will increase the look of "fullness" and added length because it will push up the lower area of the biceps. Exercises that do this are hammer curls(whether straight up and down or done cross-body style), preacher curls(so long as you do the bottom portion of the movement, don't totally straighten the arms though), and bottom-range partials which work best with BB curls.

    -concentration curls, when done properly emphasize the biceps, while de-emphasizing the brachialis...so the result is increase biceps size but more increased in proportion to the brachialis so that the net effect will be a "taller/ROUNDER" more peaked look to the biceps. Exercises that do this are concentration curls, top-range partials on preacher curls and/or on BB curls, and seated BB curls.


    No, it has not. The look of the arm changes...but the biceps itself will be the same shape...or you could develop the brachialis and the shape of the arm overall would look different because of it but neither the biceps nor the brachialis have changed their structure. The appearance of the arm will be different due to the difference in proportional development of the biceps/brachialis but the bellies of the individual muscles will stay the same. In the old days they'd call this "shaping" or adding "new shape" but today we try to be a little more accurate about it by saying which muscles were developed so that the arm looks different. A subtle but very important difference from saying you've actually changed their shape.
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    Great article about this subject. There is plenty of evidence that muscles can be worked and developed beyond simple point a to point b. What's really been discovered lately is that muscles are much more complex than previously thought.

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    If you want more peak try doing incline dumbbell curls, I may be the only one that does these lol, I don't know if they work the peak but mine have gotten a tiny bit bigger doing them lately, but I can only use 30-40lb dumbbells on this exercise compared to standing db curls with the 50s or 55s.
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    It's mostly genetics, but I think those things you're talking about are all different territories. I think thickness and general bulk comes from good ol' heavy bar (olympic or EZ, olympic is better if you can take the ego hit) "heighth" and peak are more of a concentration/preacher/high cable finesse type thing. Keep the finesse isolation moves at the end of your workout. That's my humble opinion.
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    Originally Posted by sweetchuck View Post
    Can someone tell me what exercises make biceps 1.wider 2.longer 3.Higher. I ask this because in order to get my biceps looking the same i need to know which exercise does what to my bicep.
    wider? close and wide grip bicep curls

    longer? preacher curls usually gets at the lower bi's which can make the bi look longer

    higher? med grip curls, with full tension on the bi at complete contraction
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    Originally Posted by bcd1983 View Post
    It's mostly genetics, but I think those things you're talking about are all different territories. I think thickness and general bulk comes from good ol' heavy bar (olympic or EZ, olympic is better if you can take the ego hit) "heighth" and peak are more of a concentration/preacher/high cable finesse type thing. Keep the finesse isolation moves at the end of your workout. That's my humble opinion.
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    wider? close and wide grip bicep curls

    longer? preacher curls usually gets at the lower bi's which can make the bi look longer

    higher? med grip curls, with full tension on the bi at complete contraction
    I agree with these two posts plus you will probably have to bulk to some extent to gain mass on your biceps. Didnt Arnold say you need to gain about 10lbs to add an inch to your arms- anyway 2/3 or a lil less of that inch will be triceps probably as well since that is most of your upper arm.
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    I was just thinking about this Arnold statement the other day. I think arms more than any other body part almost require you to put on weight to gain size unless you have obscene genetics. At least from what I've seen.
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