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    Pure strength gain

    I'm looking for a product to help with pure strength gains. I do not care about more mass currently, just want to focus on getting my bench/squat up. I'm considering animal stak, any opinions?
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    Originally Posted by Berserk77 View Post
    I'm looking for a product to help with pure strength gains. I do not care about more mass currently, just want to focus on getting my bench/squat up. I'm considering animal stak, any opinions?
    Gakic helps me strength gains. Even though it's Muscle Tech it is a product that actually works.

    Mass FX Max Strength gave me an increase in strength, but no mass.

    Haven't tried Animal Stak, but Animal products are usually good.
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    Originally Posted by Berserk77 View Post
    I'm looking for a product to help with pure strength gains. I do not care about more mass currently, just want to focus on getting my bench/squat up. I'm considering animal stak, any opinions?
    Your too young for animal stak.. Go with animal m-stak in its place and eat a lot, you will see much better gains...
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    Originally Posted by patriot1096 View Post
    Your too young for animal stak.. Go with animal m-stak in its place and eat a lot, you will see much better gains...
    Too young? Care to explain why, I really don't know.
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    Originally Posted by Berserk77 View Post
    Too young? Care to explain why, I really don't know.
    Reason I say this is because at 18 I really dont think a trib and longjack based product will do anything to raise your test levels. Your test levels right now are at the highest they are going to be for your entire life, as long as you stay natural of course. Products like animal stak are designed for guys 25 and up usually because thats the age when test levels slowly begin to dip a little and something like animal stak can help bring them up to that of a younger guys test levels. Reason I suggested animal m-stak is because it helps take all the calories your taking in and it partitons them meaning it gives you better protein synthesis to support better muscle growth. I just think you would be wasting your money on animal stak at your age as opposed to waiting a few more years, where you might see some benefit.
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    Originally Posted by patriot1096 View Post
    Reason I say this is because at 18 I really dont think a trib and longjack based product will do anything to raise your test levels. Your test levels right now are at the highest they are going to be for your entire life, as long as you stay natural of course. Products like animal stak are designed for guys 25 and up usually because thats the age when test levels slowly begin to dip a little and something like animal stak can help bring them up to that of a younger guys test levels. Reason I suggested animal m-stak is because it helps take all the calories your taking in and it partitons them meaning it gives you better protein synthesis to support better muscle growth. I just think you would be wasting your money on animal stak at your age as opposed to waiting a few more years, where you might see some benefit.
    Thanks for the info, didn't know it was a test booster.
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    Originally Posted by Berserk77 View Post
    Thanks for the info, didn't know it was a test booster.
    No problem
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    green mag or strom are good for strength

    its hard to find a product purely based on strength

    bulking is the best way to go up in strength

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    be consistent with your workouts, monitor your progress, and stay in the game for a long time, thats how you gain strength.
    just getting jacked up on a supp and compromising on form brings injuries.
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    Originally Posted by SEARIDER View Post
    Body Octane & Clout!........Good Stuff.
    agreed, or clout alone. clout is a well formulated product to assist in strength, anaerobic endurance and recovery.
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    Originally Posted by SEARIDER View Post
    Body Octane & Clout!........Good Stuff.
    Originally Posted by RB12 View Post
    agreed, or clout alone. clout is a well formulated product to assist in strength, anaerobic endurance and recovery.
    what's the deal with MAN Orotine? it's got a good price per serving if it works, but you don't see ppl talked about it much. what's wrong with it?
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    Originally Posted by patriot1096 View Post
    Your too young for animal stak.. Go with animal m-stak in its place and eat a lot, you will see much better gains...
    for mass you will see a lot of gains... not so much in strength. im on it right now and have not experienced any strength gains.
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    Originally Posted by quank View Post
    what's the deal with MAN Orotine? it's got a good price per serving if it works, but you don't see ppl talked about it much. what's wrong with it?
    http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/man/orotine.html
    there is nothing wrong with it, i use it frequently, it just isnt as sexy as clout clout is a creatine+ formula. it is creatine plus other items like beta alanine and antioxidents for recovery and endurance. Orotine is just the creatine element from clout. i love it bc it is tasteless and can be mixed into any shake just like creatine mono, but i find it more effective for strnegth and less water retention than mono
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    Originally Posted by RB12 View Post
    clout is a creatine+ formula. it is creatine plus other items like beta alanine and antioxidents for recovery and endurance. Orotine is just the creatine element from clout. i love it bc it is tasteless and can be mixed into any shake just like creatine mono, but i find it more effective for strnegth and less water retention than mono
    so if someone where to stack Purple Wraath pre with Orotine would that be close to Clout?
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    Originally Posted by quank View Post
    so if someone where to stack Purple Wraath pre with Orotine would that be close to Clout?
    not really, but the BA in PW is good for endurance and the Orotine would really help with strength. Clout is formulated with a number of other ingredients that really work in synergy. But PW+Orotine would definitely be a good stck
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    You could try some anabolic-androgenic steroids?
    I'm not really interested in doing something potentially dangerous plus I'm a beginner so I don't think steroids are for me anyway.
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    Originally Posted by RB12 View Post
    there is nothing wrong with it, i use it frequently, it just isnt as sexy as clout clout is a creatine+ formula. it is creatine plus other items like beta alanine and antioxidents for recovery and endurance. Orotine is just the creatine element from clout. i love it bc it is tasteless and can be mixed into any shake just like creatine mono, but i find it more effective for strnegth and less water retention than mono
    Would Clout and a creatine mono powder be too much if stacked together?
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    Originally Posted by bobcat11 View Post
    You could try some anabolic-androgenic steroids?
    WTF? A 19 year old recommending AAS to an 18 year old? Too bad I'm out of reps or I'd give you red

    Originally Posted by Berserk77 View Post
    I'm not really interested in doing something potentially dangerous plus I'm a beginner so I don't think steroids are for me anyway.
    Good call, repped before I tried negging bobcat.
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    Originally Posted by quank View Post
    3-XL is also a good option along with MORPH. 3-XL will definitely help with recovery, pumps, and strength gains. MORPH would also do the same with the addition of decreases in muscular fatigue due to beta-alanine.
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    Originally Posted by DriverDan View Post
    WTF? A 19 year old recommending AAS to an 18 year old? Too bad I'm out of reps or I'd give you red


    Good call, repped before I tried negging bobcat.

    Well clearly I was kidding, c'mon! Who says anabolic androgenic steroids anyways?
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