They say cardio, first thing in the morning, right after you wake up, on an empty stomach, is the best way to burn fat.
My question is - what about weight lifting, first thing in the morning, right after you wake up, on an empty stomach? Would that not burn a lot of fat as well? Or will that cause too much muscle loss?
Lemme know what you all think.
06-04-2008, 04:02 PM #1
Iron pumping before breakfast - empty stomach lifting
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Yeah dont train w/o some food in your system or else you will be using muscle, especially w/ your body b/c you dont have a whole lot of fat. Pre-breakfast cardio is more for overweight/obese people trying to lose weight. Trust me cardio on an empty stomach is a bad idea and you will be using muscle as an energy source b/c I did a cut while doing this and i ended up losing as much muscle as i did fat. Its a myth.
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I've done it but at that point my main goal was weight loss/fat loss. The thing that you need to be careful of is your diet. Your diet pretty much has to be on par since if you skip out on cals your gonna be hungry come lifting time. the other thing is that you are gonna have to make sure you get up early. What I mean is gt up before you get hungry so again your not starving while lifting. And coffee helps. I did make some gains in strength but that wasn't my concern at that point, and did gain some muscle. However it wsnt significant.
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I thank you all for your insights. I've never been a fan of the first thing in the morning, no breakfast cardio / weight lifting. It appears that I'm in good company. You're all impressive looking so you must be doing something right.
So I wanted to ask this question. What do you all think of having a nice big breakfast, say...
4 egg whites
4 pieces of bacon
.05 to 1 cup of rice
2 to 3 big glasses of water, then wait about an hour, then hit the gym hard.
I've heard because your metabolism is slowest at night, sometimes it's really good to hit the weights at night time, have 1-2 meals, then hit the hay. Sometimes I've done that and I looked SHREDDED the next morning.
The help and advice was, and continues to be, greatly appreciated.
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06-12-2008, 04:41 PM #10
Pre or Post-workout cardio, that is the question!
This thread answered a few doubts! Was about to change my schedule at work so I can do cardio in the morn and weights in the afternoon.
So what do you guys/gals think, for better fat loss/muscle retention, pre or post-workout cardio? And, 20 or 30min, 5 or 3 x's a week?
Right now doing 20-30min (depending on schedule) and pre-workout...
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And im sure that Jay Cuttler doesn't workout on an empty stomach, i saw his movie and he was drinking protein shakes before that.May 1-May 28-June 19-July 10- August 24
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shake or something slow burning right before bed, you don't wake up starving.
Also, what alot of people are forgetting is that after 8 hours of sleep, its not like your body is in starvation mode where you're burning muscle for energy.
If that's what time you have to train, its fine.The guys who claim "I did GOMAD and got fat" are just stupid. - Dave76
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the rule of thumb I have always used...
is that you make the best gains splitting your workouts. If you are looking to lose fat then you do your cardio first thing in the morning on an empty stomach and then lift later in the afternoon and evening after you have eaten a couple times during the day.
If you seriously want to build muscle then you need to be eating about an hour or so before you train and then again immeidately afterwards as well. And make sure you get a good nights sleep which is essential to building nice thick healthy muscle.
Make sure that you have a good carb in the meal following your workout too and do not wait to eat post workout. If it means you have to take a dry shake in a bottle with you to the gym with a combo of whey protein and rolled oats powder along with a couple of Omega3 capsules for your good fat, add water and eat it on the way home from the gym.
Then you can have a good protein heavy meal later and you will fall right into step with gaining and maintaining healthy muscle. A my husband says its not rocket science... now cutting, thats a WHOLE other food drama *lol* been there done that not fun.
Or you can take my trainers joking advice... "eat everything in site and lift as heavy and as hard as you can everytime your in the gym" *lol* that may work for boys.... but us girls would be eating chocolate and ice cream not exactly what he had in mind.
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Personally.. I don't think it matters, and is all a matter of preference. My preference is to wake up, eat a banana, take my Vasocharge, and then get to the gym. I lift and do about 30mins of Cardio. Then I get home, have my first protein shake, and eat usual breakfast. I don't like the "just ate" feeling when I'm at the gym. I have to either eat after working out, or at least an hour or hour and a half before.
I always felt like I got the most out of my workouts when they were in the morning, because it raised my energy levels the entire day, while I'm awake and active. When I get stuck and have to get into the gym at night, I feel like the energy I get from working out is wasted since I'm going to bed in a few hours anyway.Ars Gratia Artis
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lifting with depleted glycogen stores is dumb. good way to loose hard earned muscle. your glycogen should be mostly depleted in the morning unless you carbed up before bed, witch you should never do.
if your trying to promote for fat loss id eat atleast some carbs before i lifted maybe not alot
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04-21-2012, 03:28 AM #25
100g oatmeal mixed in with a protein shake can be drunk about as quick as the protein shake alone. You can have it by the bed ready to mix and down as soon as your alarm goes off and be good to go in the gym an hour later. Some orange juice and coffee while you're getting dressed doesn't hurt either.