Insulin Spikes Fact or Fiction??

killertiller · 05-28-2008, 07:31 PM

Hey guys, I've been wondering recently if POST-workout insulin spikes are really necesary to help the transport of my creatine mono. For awhile I had been using lots of dextrose with my creatine, but im not sure if it made much of a difference. Any input would be appreciated.......

-Nate

MassFreak2063 · 05-28-2008, 07:32 PM

*scratches head* ummmm I believe the insulin spike happens regardless buddy....ur just maximizing it by ingesting fast acting carbs......but i'm not an expert yet.

yummiyoshi · 05-28-2008, 07:35 PM

you might be a non responder to creatine.

killertiller · 05-28-2008, 07:39 PM

I believe I am a responder to the creatine. Its helped me gain some substantial weight for sure.

dbx · 05-28-2008, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by killertiller

I believe I am a responder to the creatine. Its helped me gain some substantial weight for sure.

LOL. So, you know you respond to the water retention part, eh?

Aprox 25% of people do not respond to creatine mono (study was done on mono specifically, so...). If you're a responder, you should have noticed an increase in the ability to do reps and/or sets at some point after loading (if you did that) or within a couple of weeks if you didn't load. For me, it was like flipping a switch after 4 days of the loading phase (about 3yrs ago). It was quite clear that muscle fatigue was significantly prolonged. I was actually pretty amazed at the difference. And just remember, that for the other 75% who do respond, there are varying degrees for everyone.

killertiller · 05-28-2008, 07:56 PM

Thanks for the info DBX. But yeah I understand everyone isnt a responder, but with the strength gains ive been making consistently since I started creatine make me believe I am a responder for sure. BUT BACK TO THE POINT GUYS...... SOMEONE GIVE ME REASONING ON INSULIN SPIKES BEING NECESCARY OR UNNECCESARY??????

JC480 · 05-28-2008, 07:58 PM

Intentionally altering your diet to produce insulin spikes is, in my opinion, fairly retarded.

Eat a good clean diet. Insulin may rise or be steady. The body will self regulate. This is assuming, of course, you don't have any medical conditions.

Northman69 · 05-28-2008, 08:05 PM

Insulin "shuttles" all your nutrients etc from your food and **** to where it is needed....this is induced by eating so you can call it a spike or shuttler or w/e...

Sugar signals a very large spike because it is pure sugar and it can be used immediatley. Thus reducing insulin sensitivity over time and this is bad...

Every body responds to sugars different, after carbs/proteins/fats are eaten they are broken down into amino acids to be used in the body.

Well I could sit here and type for hours about insulin and foods, but I don't have the time GL bro.

killertiller · 05-28-2008, 08:18 PM

Thanks for the lowdown bro, I had a feeling that a sugar insulin spike could be detrimental to insulin sensitivity over time.

Motivated_402 · 05-28-2008, 08:22 PM

I didn't read all but like 3 posts but i like to add a banana to my shake.

in10city · 05-29-2008, 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by killertiller

Hey guys, I've been wondering recently if POST-workout insulin spikes are really necesary to help the transport of my creatine mono. For awhile I had been using lots of dextrose with my creatine, but im not sure if it made much of a difference. Any input would be appreciated.......

-Nate

Creatine transport protein (CTP) is the primary impetus for creatine muscle uptake. And it's powered by the sodium pump mechanism. Ideally, stimulating / activating the CTP would result in uptake.

Insulin stimulates this activity but it doesn't seem that a huge spike is necessary.